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Can we pin down consensus on the lead, whether we should mention it there and what it should say. I see that John Edwards does not mention his affair, but I think it would be appropriate here, since Edwards' Presidential run was already over and this scandal came in the middle of Tiger Woods career. The current wording is "On December 11, 2009, Woods announced an indefinite leave from professional golf to focus on his marriage after past infidelity came to light", but I'm sure that'll change in the next hour.-- Chaser ( talk) 01:51, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
The object of a lede is to allow the reader to be able to read it and get the gist of the article without having to read it all. To not include it would be a mistake -- a missing component of the "concise overview". I think it wise to include a convenience link to the main part. Later, once this has all settled, the convenience link may not be required. But mention of this should probably always be in the lede. It should be in the John Edwards page also -- that is a failure of that page (and one I worked on when it was in the heat of things) -- and is not a good argument for excluding it here. It's in the Elliot Spitzer, Bill Clinton, David Vitter pages -- in fact, I could find hundreds of articles that follow the WP:LEDE standard. ∴ Therefore cogito· sum 21:58, 13 December 2009 (UTC)The lead should be able to stand alone as a concise overview of the article ... including any notable controversies.
As a non-biased source of information, why is Tiger Woods' most-correct ethnicity not labeled as it should. Tiger is Asian American more than anything else, at least more than he is Black. Furthermore, the 'Cablinasian' piece does not belong there, as his comment about his own ethnicity is not notable in the least, just as his preference between a Big Mac and a Whopper is not notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.209.218.208 ( talk) 02:22, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Is it a coincidence that his problems begin on the Chinese New year the "Year of the Tiger", which begins Feb. 14, 2010 (also valentine's day)? Bband11th ( talk) 17:32, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Gregorik removed the statement that Elin Nordegren was a model and added (correctly) that she was also an au pair. I put back in that she was a model, with a source. Gregorik reverted my change stating:
t was already clarified on her page that she was a professional au pair but did minimal (and reluctant) modeling work that did not last.
I could find no such clarification on her talk page -- just a question. However, it is verifiable:
I added information reported by the New York Times and the AP that Woods has been linked to the Canadian sports doctor Anthony Galea, that he was treated by Galea, and that Galea is under investigation by the FBI and RCMP for providing drugs to athletes. Samopolis ( talk) 22:41, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Adam & Eve (business) has announced that a Tiger Woods-themed parody film, "Tiger's Wood", is now in production and that it will star Tyler Knight and Kayden Kross. Should that film get its own (separate) article, or should it be mentioned in this article instead? [5] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.29.154.4 ( talk) 14:52, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Didn't Tiger legally change his name? If so, shouldn't he be listed as his legal name, with a parenthetical "born Eldrick Tont Woods" or something like that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.134.37.3 ( talk) 14:16, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
I've seen a lot of changing his status from "is a professional golfer" to "was a professional golfer". Is there any consensus on this? I know he's taken an indefinite break, but since there doesn't seem to be discussion, I am changing "was" to "is"; for all we know, he could start up again tomorrow. — Duncan (that's me!) What I Do / What I Say 16:34, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Woods via London based lawyers Schillings tonight gained an injunction. The BBC have gone cautious on the reasoning, while the respected broadsheet the Guardian has come out and said its an injunction on nude photographs. It is a highly unusual injunction, and will probably make it to Wikipedia via the Privacy in English law article. If he was a Brit, I would insert it immediately, but as an American I am more reticent. Rgds, -- Trident13 ( talk) 00:34, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
I have read in some trustworthy news websites that it is confirmed the wife is leaving with the kids. Should this be added? Thanks-- Camilo Sanchez ( talk) 20:08, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
You mean this? [6] Cadenas2008 ( talk) 09:30, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Yep apparently and why not. The cheat had unprotected sex with porn stars and then his wife. Has she an STD now. Good on ya Tiger, or is that 'Rat Woods' now.
From http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/tiger-woods-mistresses-now-11-tabs/story?id=9289650
A second porn star has joined the ranks of Tiger Woods' alleged lovers, bringing the golfer's score of purported paramours who have come forward or been named in the tabloids to at least 11.Joslyn James, star of "Porn Star Brides," joins a lingerie model, an unnamed television broadcaster, a pancake waitress with a thing for sex in parking lots, and a host of women who spend lots of time in nightclubs, on the ever-growing list of women rumored to have engaged in affairs with Woods.
Is he, was he, just another drug cheat, over sexed, over paid, black athlete who believed the lie he was living? -- Jones.liam ( talk) 22:20, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Yep this maybe why he was so good. Nothing Wood surprise me.
from http://www.rightcelebrity.com/?p=7503
According to reports, Canadian Dr. Anthony Galea, who treated Tiger Woods and a multitude of other professional athletes is being investigated by the FBI. He is suspected of administering athletes with performance-enhancing drugs.
Lets see what pans out and if its bona fide put it in -- Jones.liam ( talk) 22:15, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
The article says Tiger politely turned down offers of Thai citizenship and honors. This is not how things were played out in Thai press. This event is remembered there, as him denying his Thai heritage and insulting the Thai people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.147.110.167 ( talk) 16:39, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
What was once known as the "alleged affairs" and later "marital infidelities" is now generally called a "sex scandal", even in 'respcted' news media such as Reuters, Associated Press, and Times of India. Is this article also ready to adopt the most recent term? -- Hapsala ( talk) 01:32, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Be bold and edit is what wikipedia exhorts. If it walks and talks like a sex scandal it is one. Yes it should be in. -- Jones.liam ( talk) 20:51, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
Says so right here: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704238104574602293033609948.html?mod=article-outset-box —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.189.90.68 ( talk) 01:41, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Veteran sportswriter and the former sports editor of the Atlanta Journal Constitution, Furman Bisher, is writing details of the Tiger Woods car accident that he says he has received from a trustworthy journalist he has known for years:
According to Bisher's story, on Thanksgiving Day, after dinner, Woods spent the afternoon watching football and texting Rachel Uchitel, his first alleged mistress. He deleted each message as he received it so as not to leave any evidence for his wife, Elin Nordegren, to see. Woods left his home around 7:30 p.m. to play poker with friends but he left behind his cell phone with a text message on it that he forgot to delete. When he returned a little before midnight, Nordegren confronted him over it and over more incriminating evidence, possibly photos. Woods wouldn't confess despite his wife's insistence. Nordegren apparently lost it and struck Woods on the face with a 9-iron. That caused a gash on the right side of his head and almost knocked out two of his front teeth. Woods ran out of the house without shoes. According to published reports, he was not wearing shoes when he crashed in front of his home. Nordegren chased after him with the club. After the crash, Nordegren wasn't sure what to tell police, which explains her reported conflicting stories. As soon as Woods was released from the hospital on that Friday after Thanksgiving, with the help of his agent, he flew to Phoenix to be treated by a plastic surgeon. http://furmanbisher.wordpress.com/2009/12/26/updated-inside-story-on-tiger-woods/ -- Hapsala ( talk) 14:25, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
According to Peter Moore on his blog, EA Sports will continue to support Tiger Woods http://www.easports.com/blogs/itsinthegame/post/slug/ea-sports-moves-forward-with-tiger-woods-pga-tour-online-launch-in-january Mechageo ( talk) 17:14, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
A letter about the injunction sent out by Woods' London lawyers can be found here. It is interesting because the order was granted by David Eady, who has been seen as the rich man's friend when it comes to embarrassing stories in the UK press.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 16:59, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
The "career" section of the article should include, in chronological sequence (i.e. at the end, for the time being) a subsection of one or two sentences mentioning Woods's hiatus from pro golf and directing the reader to the appropriate part of the "personal life" section. Of course, duplication between the two sections should be minimized. -- 208.76.104.144 ( talk) 08:45, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
It has been suggested that the career section be split to a new article titled Tiger Woods career biography due to excessive length issues. See discussion at WT:GOLF#Tiger Woods career biography. Please do not reply here. wjemather bigissue 23:46, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
What does this sentence mean? As of December 25, 2009, the count was 14 women. 14 mistresses? Women who (publicly) claimed to be mistresses? This sentence seems derogatory, not only to Woods but also to the women. Anyway, who is counting, the New York Times, Leporello, or the National Enquirer? -- 194.24.138.3 ( talk) 23:51, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
This article: [10] , reports that Tiger has entered sex rehab at Pine Grove Behavioral Health Services in Hattiesburg, MS, as of January 15, 2010. This should be added to the section on his infidelities, once it has been confirmed. - KennethHampton ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:32, 15 January 2010 (UTC).
At the external links section I found some links pointing to inappropriate place. -- 89.134.157.40 ( talk) 01:36, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
There is a typo in the article, in the subsection "Golf Course Design" it is said that Tiger Woods will design a course in Esenada, Baja California. The name of the city is Ensenada
There is a second, in the "Marital infidelity" section. Last paragraph, first word. "Woods" should be "Woods' "
A small point in the first section: should a golfer be described as an 'athlete'? Would not a 'sportsman' be a more accurate generic description of his profession? -- Wally Tharg ( talk) 10:57, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
It seems a bit weird, particularly in the current context, that personal life begings with marriage. Is anything known about his previous relationships? BorisG ( talk) 05:05, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Can someone find an image of Woods and Elin.-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 22:40, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
It's losing track, not loosing track.
South Korean rapper Cho PD recently dedicated a song called Sex Sex Sex to Tiger Woods [11]. Is this significant enough to be added to the article? Limey26 ( talk) 10:24, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Why is the wins table so rainbow-coloured?
[12] The calculation for total wins in note 1 used 8 European wins instead of 38; this looks like an error. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.234.134.17 ( talk) 08:00, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Since I can't update the article, I'll just post this here:
There are two errors in the "marital infidelity and career break" section. First is a typo in the second to last paragraph of "returnting" over "returning". The second is in the last sentence, where the interview is dated to March 24th (a date that hasn't happened yet), as opposed to the correct date of March 21st. If someone could fix these, that would be awesome! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.35.7.148 ( talk) 02:32, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
This article currently states: "He admitted that he had been unfaithful to his wife." On February 19, 2010, Tiger Woods did not state: "I have been unfaithful to my wife.". Has Tiger Woods ever admitted that he cheated on his wife? Is it certain that Tiger Woods did not instead engage in stupid, selfish and irresponsible behavior by cheating on his food and/or beverage diet? - Servant David ( talk) 21:10, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Tiger no longer uses the VR TW blades. He is back to using his nike blades that he used before. Thats all they're called Tiger also changed the shaft in his driver. He doesn't have the white board shaft anymore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.114.109.162 ( talk) 03:24, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
This is in the news today. Interesting, but raises WP:BLP issues.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 09:23, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
whoever wrote that Tiger Woods Committed Suicide today should take it off he never commited suicide —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.65.179.251 ( talk) 21:18, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
On March ?? 24?? 2010, he was interviewed by Tom Rinaldi..... Today is March 21 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.206.128.2 ( talk) 02:31, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Source 253 and its corresponding comment should be removed, as that source only cites a known, unreliable source--THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER. If a source like the National Enquirer is not a valid source, then a source citing the invalid source--and its corresponding material--should be removed. This is where Wikipedia can go terribly wrong. At the very least, the source should be reported as the National Enquirer so that it may be discarded out of hand. Rastabada ( talk) 18:05, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Tiger Woodswas on today's showhe did and interview only one —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.57.30.32 ( talk) 01:31, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
We need a list of the women he's been linked to, it's like Undertaker's streak everytime ya lopok up, it's another name added to the list, what is it 15, 16? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.183.60.33 ( talk) 20:23, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
he did not play in the ryder cup in 2008, through injury. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.167.217.161 ( talk) 03:24, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Is an equipment section really necessary? I almost get the impression Nike posted it and then Callaway followed up and did the same to Phil Mickelson's page. Should Wikipedia really be hawking their gear? I don't see it as being pertinent biographical information beyond the fact Nike is trying to sell clubs, golf balls and gloves... Neutralis ( talk) 22:35, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
{{ editsemiprotected}} Tiger Woods withdrew from The Players Championship after fearing he might have has a bulging disk.
Suchy5885 ( talk) 16:21, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
Not done: Welcome and thanks. You need to provide a reliable source for this and the exact text you would like to have inserted. Celestra ( talk) 19:53, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
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Elin Nordegren (2004–present)
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(If you want to be consistent with wife - more asthetic)
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| children = Sam Alexis (b. 2007), Charlie Axel (b. 2009)
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Charlie Axel Woods (b. 2009)
refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elin_Nordegren 67.98.222.15 ( talk) 12:59, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
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, so I don't think there's any reason to change it.
Tim Pierce (
talk) 14:31, 16 June 2010 (UTC)He is on the brink of relinquishing his number 1 title to Phil Mickelson. I was thinking of maybe suggesting that addition, or would it be better to wait until he actually does relinquish the number 1 ranking? WrightisRight05 ( talk) 01:19, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
The #1 ranking is determined by points earned over a 2-year period. Any source saying Woods is no longer #1 is likely incorrect. When Woods does lose his #1 spot it's going to be national news so there's no point saying he's no longer #1 according to some dubious source(s). Wlmg ( talk) 21:50, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
That may all well and true, but it's still editorializing. Who knows he might announce his retirement and it'll be a whole different story. Wlmg ( talk) 01:39, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
{{editsemiprotected}} Under Personal life, and other the following sentences is written: Woods and his wife own a 155-foot (47 m) yacht called Privacy, berthed in Florida. The $20 million, 6,500 square feet (600 m2) vessel features a master suite, six staterooms, a theatre, gym, and Jacuzzi, and sleeps 21 people. Registered...
I think the "and his wife" part should be omitted. As far as I can tell she did not get the yacht in the divorce, and is no longer his wife. I think I may be a bit nit-picky here but I think it might be better worded like that. WrightisRight05 ( talk) 22:41, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
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Not done
Done (sort of)
The phrase:
"... 10 million dollar bonus ..."
(at the very end of the "Endorsements" section, about 1/2 down the page) is missing the dollar sign.
It should read:
"... $10 million dollar bonus... ".
-- Fish (David B. Trout) ( talk) 14:43, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Tiger is the first athlete in modern times to have earned over a billion dollars. Just not the first in recorded history. The first recorded athlete to have broke a billion dollars in today's dollars was a Roman chariot racer who amassed roughly 15 billion dollars in today's dollars, or 35,863,120 sesterces. His name was Gaius Appuleius Diocles.
http://news.discovery.com/history/highest-paid-athlete-hailed-from-ancient-rome.html
So basically, you're saying Tiger IS the first to earn a billion dollars. Your roman earned 35,000,000 sesterces, not a billion dollars. If we're going to start using that logic, than Titanic isn't the first film to score a billion dollars at the box office. Tiger is the first athlete to earn a billion dollars. SuperAtheist ( talk) 12:51, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
This is kind of a minor thing, but one of the "further reading" books points to an old edition. The new information for "Tiger Woods: A Biography" is: "Londino, Lawrence J. (2010). Tiger Woods: A Biography. Santa Barbara, Calif: Greenwood Press. ISBN 9780313380501. OCLC 542321832"
I got the information from its Amazon page: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0313380503/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.136.253.98 ( talk) 01:52, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
His mother is Thai-Chinese. That does not mean 1/2 Thai and 1/2 Chinese, it means she is Thai with Chinese ancestors. A large chunk of Thailand is Thai-Chinese and they have been here for hundreds of years. I would like to adjust his ancestry numbers accordingly (removing any Chinese % from his mothers side), if there are no objections. 58.8.15.206 ( talk) 14:27, 28 November 2010 (UTC) In addition to the former comment, he is not 1/2 chinese, as his father is "rumored" to have chinese ancestry due to an inside family joke (see Earl woods article) Tiger is therefore not 1/2 chinese. Earl woods has native american ancestry, however he is not half native american, this also does not make Tiger 1/4 native american, as many americans have native american ancestry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dollykola ( talk • contribs) 22:05, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
New to wiki, Tiger has switched back to his older 35" Scotty Cameron Newport 2 putter by Titleist although he has been allegedly practicing with various nike method putters aswell —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.74.168.127 ( talk) 20:53, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
It says in the intro that Tiger Woods "is the highest-paid professional athlete in the world". Is that really still true? Or should the sentence be changed to "was the highest-paid professional athlete in the world"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.103.207.202 ( talk) 18:49, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
As far as i know he is the current highest paid in the world, not the highest paid sportsman of all time which is what i feel the introduction should include, "The current highest paid sportsman in the world"
The highest paid of all time was a chariot racer from the roman times, something that equates to over 1billion in todays money from 100-300races — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.215.64.5 ( talk) 02:10, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
For some reason, the Asianweek source (which appears to be poorly referenced) cites that Tiger's father, Earl, is 1/4 Chinese and 1/4 Native American, when one can clearly look at Earl's wiki page to see that his is not. Earl's mother is 1/2 white and 1/2 black, as stated in his wiki, and his father is clearly black. The source is from a reliable source via: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1517444/Earl-Woods.html which was posted no long after Earl passed away. They hinted, there's some traces of Native American blood in Earl, but only "joked" about the Chinese part. Someone please correct Tiger's genealogy section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.102.249.7 ( talk) 02:17, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
There still seems to be a miss-representation of Tiger's bloodline. From my previous discussion which refuted Tiger's father, Earl's, Chinese Ancestry and made known that Earl is actually 3/4 Black and 1/4 White, the previous editing just lazily removed the amount "1/4" in front of Chinese and Native American (but kept both ethnicity) and completely disregard how that would affect Tiger's genealogy in the remaining of that paragraph. To make the record straight: Earl is 3/4 Black, 1/4 White, and Kultida is 1/2 Thai, 1/4 Chinese and 1/4 Dutch. This would make Tiger 3/8 Black, 1/4 White, 1/4 Thai and 1/8 Chinese. Would change this thoroughly please? 12/8/2012 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.183.202.44 ( talk) 04:51, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
Will someone please fix this line: This makes Woods himself half Asian (one-quarter Chinese and one-quarter Thai), one-quarter African American, one-eighth Native American, and one-eighth Dutch.[22] This is clearly mistaken as I have mentioned before. Thanks. Still no Update as of 1/6/12.
I found this article to be extremely informative with excellent structure -- headlines, breaks, citations; overall, one of the best articles I've read on Wikipedia. Good job on this one. 151.52.0.25 ( talk) 10:20, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
From the article: "Woods underwent laser eye surgery in 1999. Before this surgery, Woods eyesight was minus 11, meaning he was almost legally blind." Per Wikipedia, "In North America and most of Europe, legal blindness is defined as visual acuity (vision) of 20/200 (6/60) or less in the better eye with best correction possible." Therefore, without stating what Tiger Woods' corrected vision is, it would be incorrect to assume he was legally blind. StonewallJKrantz ( talk) 01:33, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
At the PGA Championship, they introduced him no longer being from Windermere, FL, but from being from Hobe Sound, FL. I am wondering should we go ahead and change his residence to the new location. SaysWhoWhatWhenWhereWhyHow? ( talk) 23:02, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
There is a (cited) quote where Tiger asks his limo driver if women like black guys because they have big dicks. This has no place in an encyclopedia article, and adds nothing to the subject matter. I'd remove it, but the article is locked. Actually, the section on infidelity is far too large compared to the rest of the article; since he's a professional golfer, it would make more sense to have a small sentence or paragraph summarizing the infidelity and the distraction it caused to his golf game, not a play-by-play of every headline that occurred. 99.98.221.223 ( talk) 13:41, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
Tiger Woods is a certified Cave Diver. I have personally (and almost literally) run in to him in an underwater cave in Florida. Some information can be found here http://www.gainesville.com/article/20080609/NEWS/35825185 . There is a lot more first hand information available, but I doubt any of it can be verified. I am under the impression that he was told by is lawyers to stop Cave Diving for contractual reasons. 71.4.236.2 ( talk) 23:47, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
5 January 2012 (8:12 pm PST) Article read: "Eldrick Tont "Tiger" Woods (born December 30, 1975) is an ugly and Indian-looking American professional golfer whose achievements... I removed the words "ugly and Indian-looking" from the first sentence of the article. Symmerhill (a.k.a. Summerhill) ( talk) 04:44, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
At roughly 186k, this article, while quite informative, seems excessively long. (See WP:SIZE.) I think the career section (about 66k in itself) should be moved to a separate article and replaced here with a summary, and virtually every other section could be condensed to some degree. I intend to undertake these tasks in the near future. Theoldsparkle ( talk) 16:35, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
Document statistics: (See here for details.) * File size: 732 kB * Prose size (including all HTML code): 124 kB * References (including all HTML code): 20 kB * Wiki text: 182 kB * Prose size (text only): 77 kB (13472 words) "readable prose size" * References (text only): 1547 B
So the 77k of "readable prose" is the number to look at per WP:SIZERULE. Some trimming may be necessary but I won't split off the career section. Tewapack ( talk) 17:27, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
It should be mentioned that caddy Steve Williams was let go by Tiger in July 2011 ( http://espn.go.com/golf/story/_/id/6787301/tiger-woods-gets-rid-steve-williams-caddie) Billsoman ( talk) 18:57, 16 January 2012 (UTC)Billsoman
To explain why I reverted this January 30 edit by User:FrankEldonDixon, which bore the edit summary: "added detail on # of affairs (Rinaldi interview; it was referenced on a previous version of this article), and some divorce settlement details (which was also referenced in a previous version of the article))". I went back to the January 10 version of this article, the last version preceding any changes I made, to check for references on these points.
The first change on Jan 30 added the text: Woods was interviewed by Tom Rinaldi of ESPN in a segment which appeared on the Golf Channel, and admitted to having "about 120 affairs". The Jan 10 version said: On March 21, 2010, Woods was interviewed by Tom Rinaldi, his first interview after the incident.[302] On April 29, 2010, the National Enquirer reported that Woods had confessed to his wife that he had cheated on her with at least 120 women in five years.[303]
I had removed the Rinaldi sentence because it didn't seem especially important that he had been interviewed, if the interview itself didn't contain anything newsworthy. (The cited interview transcript is here.) I have no real objection to re-adding the Jan 10 version of that sentence if others think it should be included.
Contrary to the (perhaps unintentional) implication of the Jan 30 edit, the Rinaldi interview transcript says nothing about "120 affairs." As far as I can tell, the only source for that information is the National Enquirer, and other sources reporting that the Enquirer made this claim. I do not believe that the Enquirer is considered a reliable source under our policies, particularly WP:BLP. The most recent discussions of the Enquirer that I found at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard are: here, here, and here, none of which make me think it's acceptable. So I'm uncomfortable with including that claim here, but I am absolutely happy, if requested, to post at RSN or at the BLP noticeboard and ask for clarification on whether the "120 affairs" statement can be included here.
As for the second matter in the Jan 30 edit, the divorce settlement: contrary to the edit summary, there was no apparent reference for that information at least as of Jan 10. I did a quick look for a reference and didn't find anything I felt especially confident about. If someone wishes to include that information, I suggest they find the best source(s) they can, post the sources here, and if necessary we could ask about it at the BLP noticeboard.
I'll also add that an earlier edit summary by User:FrankEldonDixon said the article "has been dramatically sanitized recently", which I'm assuming was in reference to changes I made. I wish to say that my only interest was in improving the article; I have little interest in Woods as a person, or in making him look good or bad. I did think the article was improved by removing some details about the scandal that seemed both excessive and poorly-sourced, and if my neutrality is in question I'm happy to discuss any of my edits and to seek outside opinion. Theoldsparkle ( talk) 16:58, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
It has been proposed that this article and Earl Woods be merged into one article.
Is there a way to make the green/yellow major results timeline interactive and able to link you to the particular major and year selected from the grid? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.56.8.172 ( talk) 18:20, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
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Tiger Woods is the only golfer to hold all four Professional Major Titles at one time.
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Tiger Woods finished T40 at the 2012 Masters, not T41 as was reported by the media. This requires two edits; one under professional career, and one in the results timeline. Here is a leaderboard from the PGA Tour: http://www.majorschampionships.com/masters/2012/scoring/index.cfm And here is a leaderboard from the official Masters website. http://www.masters.com/en_US/scores/scorespop.html?a=flashpopoutlb
Also, here is a citation for the hiring of Joe LaCava, under playing style. http://www.golfchannel.com/news/doug-ferguson/lacava-working-for-tiger-a-no-brainer/
70.171.39.227 ( talk) 03:22, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
As of today, he has 74 career wins and only trails Sam Snead who has 82 career wins. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.118.131.95 ( talk) 22:55, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Woods is a well known fan of links golf and has stated that The Open is his favourite major. [14] [15] I feel that this is interesting and worthy of mention in the article, but am unsure as to where it would best fit. Rangoon11 ( talk) 19:15, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
The "playing style" portion of this needs to be altered in my opinion. Firstly, I think I could write the entire thing better than it is currently written. In fact, I personally think I could improve on almost every portion of the "article," but for now I will just focus on the playing style portion.
Firstly, I am not in full agreement about Tiger's "long drives" having a "large impact" on the world of golf considering it is an opinion and there is no real proof of any real impact Tiger's length off of the tee made. Tiger has never led the tour in driving distance (although he has been ranked 2nd four times (97, 98, 00, 05). I also would like some citation that Tiger actually upgraded both his clubhead and his shaft in 2004. Tiger upgraded his equipment gradually, not all at once. Also, no mention of Tiger changing the length of the shaft of his driver (he had used a shorter than typical shaft on his driver for more accuracy before change it to a standard length) is mentioned. Tiger's actually increase in length was not seen until 2005, which is why I am questioning the current stated year of 2004. Also, while Tiger gained a lot of distance in 2005 and moved to 2nd in the driving distance category, after that year Tiger has slowly moved down the ranking in driving distance. Tiger's current style of play really no longer relies on huge drives. While Tiger still has one of the fastest clubhead speeds, his length is only above average.
Secondly, Mickelson did not "joke" about Tiger using inferior equipment. Mickelson joked about Tiger not liking that Phil could outdrive Tiger. Mickelson's statement about Tiger using inferior equipment was not a joke. He was not refering to the brand of club Tiger played, but stating a fact that Tiger had not upgraded his equipment as it pertains to the technology that had become available which allowed players to hit the ball further, which is also something that is stated in the article, therefore, is being considered a fact, and not a joke. It should be mentioned that Tiger has always been slow to switch to new technology until he is comfortable using it in competition.
Thirdly, the statement about Tiger being coached by Hank Haney working with Tiger Woods to "flatten" his swing plane needs citation. This is also just ONE of MANY things Tiger Woods worked on with Hank Haney. Also, the statement "From March 2004 to 2010, Woods was coached by Hank Haney, who worked on flattening his swing plane. Woods continued to win tournaments with Haney, but his driving accuracy dropped significantly," is very misleading. It talks about Tiger continuing to win tournaments, but then talks about his driving accuracy dropping off significantly, but does not speak of Tiger becoming the game's best wedge player under Hank Haney.
Also, Tiger did not just continue winning tournaments under Hank Haney, but returned to a period of domination equivalent to his period of domination while working with Butch Harmon. In fact, Between 2005-2008 (He worked with Haney from 04-10 and his dominant period started in the second year and continued for four years), Tiger's winning percentage and major winning percentage were practically identical to the percentages under Harmon. Tiger worked with Harmon for a lot longer before he reached his peak domination. It was the retooling of Tiger's swing with Harmon that started in 97 or 98, whichever you prefer to use, and then began a four year period of domination starting the following year from 99-02, just like under Haney, and then died off over the next 2 years after that before leaving Harmon. This is exactly the same as with Haney. Tiger retooled his swing in 04, began a period of domination the following year in 05, which lasted four years (just like under Harmon) between 05-08, and then dropped off for two years (just like under Harmon) before he got rid of Hank (just like with Harmon). And as I said, Tiger's winning percentage and major winning percentage during that four year stretch was identical to his winning percentage and major winning percentage under Harmon. In fact, one could argue that Tiger was a better player under Haney considering the rest of the players had raised their game, and for Tiger to dominate at the same percentage against improved players, Tiger must have improved himself. Tiger also matched his own record adjusted scoring average of 67.79 in 2007 that he set in 2000. This statistic is a scoring average in comparison to the other players, and therefore makes it a comparison to how good he is compared to his peers. For Tiger to have the same scoring average under Haney, means he was just as dominant compared to his peers under Haney as he was under Harmon. Therefore, to simply say he "continued to win tournaments" under Haney is a huge slight. He returned to domination, again returned to the world number 1 ranking by an unprecedented margin, and retained that ranking all way until the second half of 2010 when he lost it due to a drop in his play due to the off course scandal. So, Tiger retooling his swing under Haney should read just like it does concerning the retooling of his swing under Harmon, and should speak about the changes begining to pay off. One thing of particular note is that the current article states that Tiger achieved better distance control from his swing change with Harmon, however, Tiger's distance control was actually superior under Haney (shotlink data backs this up), particularly with his wedges, when Tiger became the best wedge and short iron player in the game (shotlink data also backs this up). Therefore, this article is prejudiced towards Harmon's work with Tiger and Tiger's swing under Harmon compared to his swing under Haney. This prejudice is inaccurate and should be fixed.
Finally, the information concerning Tiger's caddy should not be in the "playing style" section of this article.
I would like to know when and how this will be changed. I would be happy to write an unbiased, fact based "playing style" piece that can replace the current misleading playing style section.
~ AaronVA83 — Preceding unsigned comment added by AaronVA83 ( talk • contribs) 15:53, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
Should the article state that the AT&T National win put him atop the money list for the first time in x # of weeks?-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 15:09, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi all,
The opening sentence of this article is: "Tiger Woods is an American professional golfer whose achievements to date rank him among the most successful golfers of all time." I noticed that this sentence does not have a source - should a source be added to support this assertion? Thank you. HalG Halgerov994 ( talk) 20:09, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
The 2012 season has almost as much space devoted to it as Woods' entire carer prior to 2012. Too much detail about tournaments that, ultimately, are historically insignificant. I humbly suggest a major paring-down of the 2012 material. That, or give every prior year the same amount of attention - which would make for one long article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.125.96.200 ( talk) 05:14, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
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The Tiger Woods page should discuss the infidelity scandal in the intro section. This scandal had such a large impact that it is now widely associated with the mention of his name, in addition to his professional golf accomplishments. To not mention this in the intro is to play-down the impact this event had on his life, which is a disservice to those wishing to learn about Tiger Woods via wikipedia. Thricesplice ( talk) 11:41, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
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(watch me float!) 12:31, 1 September 2012 (UTC)"In July 2010, Forbes announced Tiger Woods as the richest sportsman in the world earning a reported $105m according to them and $90.5m according to Sports Illustrated." - Should be "highest-earning" instead of "richest" in that context, right?
The reference to Jack Nicklaus should be hyperlinked to " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Nicklaus" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lmewshaw ( talk • contribs) 19:26, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
As of August 12, 2012, he is ranked #3 - As of September 24, 2012, he is ranked #2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.182.107.19 ( talk) 20:03, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
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Please change the link from [[AT&T]] to [[AT&T Inc.|AT&T]] for simplifying disambiguation, per Talk:AT&T#Incoming links to AT&T. 12.153.112.21 ( talk) 03:01, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Do we really need so much detail in the equipment section? It looks like blatant promotion for Nike and isn't something that I've seen (thankfully) on any other golfing bio pages. Is it not sufficient to simply note that Nike are his sponsors? Quite how our understanding of Woods is supposed to be enhanced by knowing what his gloves are called frankly escapes me. danno_ uk 08:53, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
The article states that Tiger was the first golfer to win the U.S. Amateur title three years in a row (1994, 1995, 1996). This is simply not true. Juli Inkster won the U.S. Amateur title in 1980, 1981 and 1982. [1] 108.89.219.47 ( talk) 18:26, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
Should be Jim Liu instead of Jin liu — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.68.88.218 ( talk) 22:59, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
5-wood should be a Nike VR_S Covert(19°) with Mitsubishi Diamana Blue Board 103 X-flex shaft. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tpelley17 ( talk • contribs) 17:12, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
It says that Tiger is 15-1 when leading or trailing going into the final round of a major, but Tiger has only won 14 majors, so he cannot be 15-1. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.153.242.94 ( talk) 22:27, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
The police found Woods lying in the street, unconscious, and bleeding from the mouth. And his wife holding a gold club. Why is this police confirmed information being hidden by Wikipedia ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.99.234.66 ( talk) 11:38, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
And entire section should be added addressing not only the recent events at the masters but any history of recieving favorablee treatments. This last one is the straw breaking the back. Mass media outlets like ESPN/CBS etc. blatantly lied about the rules, and wikipedia will not reflect their propaganda. The rule the master's morons claimed tiger was saved by does not even apply to him. The rule was not supposed to be applied to people who were ignorant of the rule. Additionally, many people in the know have noted the sheer impossibility that they could have originally reviewed this drop and not have immediately known he violated the rule, as he is clearly several feet from his original spot. 68.115.53.79 ( talk) 13:27, 17 April 2013 (UTC) This wiki is missing a controversy-related section. 68.115.53.79 ( talk) 13:27, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/tiger-woods-drunk-met-gala-after-party-article-1.1337434 71.99.234.66 ( talk) 11:44, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
How did Tiger's PGA and Eurotour win counts go up in the same week?-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ WP:FOUR/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:WAWARD) 14:06, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
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Tiger is now using the new Nike Covert driver, as of the 2013 Bridgestone Invitational.
So, please change his driver from the VR Tour to the VR_S Covert.
67.54.168.70 ( talk) 06:58, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
Already done Thanks, Celestra ( talk) 20:28, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
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172.248.125.189 ( talk) 02:25, 23 September 2013 (UTC) Tiger did not win the Byron Nelson award for 2013. Steve Stricker has won it based upon the final tournament of the year, the Tour Championship. Stricker met the 50 round minimum average (unlike the Vardon Trophy, which has a 60 round minimum and was won by Tiger this year). When the pgatour.com website updates, you will see the final scoring average standings.
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I'm looking at the "Career Achievements" section: was The Players in 2013 Tiger's 300th start? If so, he won his 100th, 200th and 300th... SEE: http://www.pgatour.com/players/player.08793.tiger-woods.html Thanks. Marvin 70.77.220.237 ( talk) 04:54, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Just a small thing: why is his height being displayed in metres when 100% of the sources that use the metric system display it in centimetres and 0% display it in metres?-- Gibson Flying V ( talk) 04:12, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
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Please add the 2013 Byron Nelson Award to Tiger's list of awards Jman1228 ( talk) 01:39, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
Should there be any discussion on how many believe that the courses that "Tiger proofed" their courses knew exactly what they were doing, which was to make their courses BETTER for Tiger to entice him to play their tournaments since he played such a limited schedule and generally only play courses that suited his game the best. After all, even back then, experts were saying that making a course longer is beneficial to the longer players because while they were still hitting 6 irons to the green, their opponents were now hitting 3 irons or fairway woods. (And obviously, a 6 iron is much more accurate than a 3 iron or fairway wood.) Whereas under the older, shorter distnaces, Tiger or the other long drivers would be hitting a 9 iron while the rest were hitting 7 irons. While a 9 iron is more accurate than a 7 iron, since both are short irons, the difference between the two is much less than the difference between a 6 iron and a 3 iron. And while Tiger could still reach most par 5s in 2, the longer courses meant the rest of the field could not. Even when it was going on, the experts said if they really wanted to Tiger-proof their courses it would mean making the rough more of a penalty, rather than making courses longer, but having very light rough. After all, Tiger hitting his second shot from 140 in the light rough is still better than another golfer hitting 190 yards from the fairway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.67.106.1 ( talk) 06:29, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
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Pitchya1 ( talk) 23:32, 8 April 2014 (UTC) Tiger Woods was the only child of an African-American Army officer father and a Thai mother. ( http://www.biography.com/people/tiger-woods-9536492#synopsis&awesm=~oAT2SnYiSNHgzq )
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partner = Lindsey Vonn add this plz Salman PAF ( talk) 07:17, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
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I believe the Wiki page that shows Tiger Woods achievements needs to have an asterisk on it noting that the calculations showing average score for a year or lifetime is based only through 2009. If one calculates his entire life as a PGA pro these things fall off sharply. It just doesn't do justice to the purpose behind the posting of his life's achievements.
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If edits are being reverted and editors are being told "Flags are discouraged" e.g. Manny Pacquiao, why are so many articles containing American flags allowed, and reverted when those flags removed? American influence on the recording of world history remains a disgrace.
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In the section "Professional Career", the last sentence should be changed from:
"Despite his back pain, he played at the 2014 PGA Championship where he failed to make the cut."
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"He declared 'I'm not in any pain' before the 2014 PGA Championship but failed to make the cut."
Source: http://www.pga.com/pgachampionship/htmlpage/2014-pga-championship-interview-tiger-woods Colickyboy ( talk) 20:58, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
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At the end of the section "Professional Career", please add:
On August 25, 2014, Woods and swing coach Sean Foley parted ways. In four years under Foley, Woods won eight times but no majors. He had previously won eight majors with Harmon and six with Haney. Woods said there is no timetable to find a replacement swing coach.
Sources: http://www.tigerwoods.com/news/2014/08/25/91338338/tiger-swing-coach-sean-foley-part-ways/ http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/golf/2014/08/25/tiger-woods-sean-foley-coach-split/14561331/ Colickyboy ( talk) 21:14, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
I know this has come up before, but I don't think it was correctly handled. There is a WP policy that applies. WP:INTERVIEW#reliability "Interviews are generally reliable for the fact that the interviewees said something, but not necessarily for the fact that what they said is accurate." Legally blind has specific criteria, most importantly being that the best corrected vision is still significantly impaired. Woods may have said it, but it doesn't make it correct, and can give readers a false definition of legal blindness. I removed that part of sentence. If someone objects, we can get an administrator to settle the issue. MartinezMD ( talk) 10:51, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
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Tiger didn't back out of the Honda Classic in 2015 as it states just before the "honors" section of his playing career. He injured himself at Torrey Pines, site of his 2008 Open win, during the Farmers Insurance Open. He was scheduled to play HOnda but chose not to, and ultimately did not participate in a tournament before the Masters.
Reading the Format:
Please change "Woods injured himself during the Honda Classic and was unable" to "Woods injured himself during the Farmers Insurance Open at Torrey Pines, site of his injured 2008 U.S. Open victory, and was unable"
Ozznato73 ( talk) 04:19, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Woods also is third on the list of total wins on the European PGA Tour, with 40, behind Seve Ballesteros (50) and Bernhard Langer (42) per Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:8339:4FA0:8060:D0AC:3E1F:2F9B ( talk) 00:37, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
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new photo, this is the greatest player to ever play the game and you have a picture of him with bags under his eyes...clearly he has better photos. how about using this one? http://wfiles.brothersoft.com/t/tiger_woods_51511-1920x1200.jpg
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