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This is from the liner notes for Stravinsky's own recording of the piece and was published as being copyrighted under his name, transcribed from an interview. As such, it is more than mere reportage. Richard K. Carson 07:07, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Since no one has complained about the above comment, I have tweaked this section. Richard K. Carson 06:22, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Currently the instrumentation reflects the number of instruments required rather than the number of players. Should this be changed? 24.91.251.238 02:26, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
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I was listening to the radio and heard what sounded like a reggae group playing part of The Rite of Spring. The DJ never said who performed it, though. Has anyone heard (or heard of) this? 63.245.182.235 05:21, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Should this article have the name Le sacre du printemps? - Acjelen 21:00, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
"Vesna svjaščennaja" does not really reflect current pronunciation in modern Russian, as the щ is no longer šč but rather šš, i. e. a very long voiceless "sh" sound. Does anyone agree with me? -andy 80.129.116.55 00:12, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Didn't Siouxsie and the Banshees use this piece to open their concerts in the early 80's? I believe it's included with "Isreal" on the Nocturne album. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.63.201.84 ( talk) 01:08, 9 March 2007 (UTC).
Well done, your article The Rite of Spring has passed through the Nomination Process. Social Studiously My Editor Review! - 12:14, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Just noticed that what I just added is largely redundant with the same info addressed in an earlier section; am deleting it and reconsidering. Whoops.— Preceding unsigned comment added by RFGS ( talk • contribs) 21:35, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
I wonder if there could a section about notable recordings. The only recording mentioned is the one by Stravinsky himself. Atavi 11:32, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
The article was removed for good article per review which found it no longer met the good article criteria. However, the only reason was a significant lack of sources.-- Exarion 04:32, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
"The Rite of Spring, commonly referred to by its original French title, Le Sacre du printemps..."
Is it really "commonly" referred to as such? This is the first time I've heard the French title, and I've always heard it otherwise... ~~MusicalConnoisseur~~ Got Classical? 05:51, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
This article is at Good Article Review for review and possible delisting of its GA status, due to not meeting criterion 2b, as far as I can tell. "Article is badly undercited, especially the more scholarly analysis. Would require someone with good knowledge and available literature to cite the stuff. The paragraph on Disney's Fantasia is very close to trivia. History needs more citations also." Please assume good faith and improve the article as it is reviewed. - Malkinann 04:09, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
"many political and social tensions surrounding the premiere contributed to the backlash as well"
Can't leave the reader hanging like this. Should either not mention it, provide a citation & or link for reader to get more info, or provide some idea in the text. Ileanadu ( talk) 14:22, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Couldn't something be said of how the Joffrey company/Millicent Hodson reconstructed Nijinsky's choreography? Plechazunga ( talk) 07:04, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :)
DumZiBoT ( talk) 19:02, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
I think maybe there are too many recordings listed in this section. This is a list of the most notable recordings not a complete discography. Seems to me that other than the early Monteux and Stokowski and Fantasia recordings only a couple of others need be listed. Maybe Karajan 64 (I guess because Stravinsky is quoted as hating it), Stravinsky's own, Bernstein/NYP, Boulez/Cleveland and maybe Gergiev. Any comments? Thanks! Markhh ( talk) 05:55, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
I don't see anything wrong with the disambiguation line for the band "Rites of Spring". I don't know why people keep deleting it and I see no reason why it shouldn't be left in place. The names are very similar, it will help readers, and does the article no harm. Markhh ( talk) 22:47, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Would it be useful to put something in regarding uses of The Rite in other musical genres? Paul Desmond quoted the opening near the outset of his improvisation in El Condor Pasa (the first track on his Simon & Garfunkel album), and I believe Hubert Laws recorded a fully jazzified version around the same early-70s period. -- Wspencer11 (talk to me...) 17:05, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
This Ballet box, with lists of Ballet styles and schools seems completely irrelevant here. There's no reference to Sacre or Nijinsky or Stravinsky. Anyone else agree that it ought to be deleted from this article? Markhh ( talk) 07:04, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
All of Stravinsky's works are under copyright (I apologize for posting this above all the other comments, but it needs to be adjacent to the relevant tag.) Robert Greer ( talk)
Actually, that's not completely true. Some of Stravinsky's early works are in the public domain in the USA. See this forum thread for more information.
[1] --
Kongming819 (
talk) 21:26, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
To be exact, at this (originally Russian) site:
http://nlib.org.ua/index1.html (under 'orchestra' > 'The Rite Of Spring'). As a matter of fact, this scanned version was the source for the formerly available IMSLP-download.
Anyone who's interested, feel free to edit the 'External Links'-section of the article accordingly. I'm not going to figure out how to do it myself, but just wanted to let you know.
84.28.66.8 (
talk) 11:43, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi,
As I have posted above, some of Stravinsky's works are still in the public domain in the USA, and they are available for download here:
[2] (from IMSLP! Thank goodness they have returned!!!)
Enjoy. --
Kongming819 (
talk) 21:29, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
I have changed the English renderings of the score titles to correspond with the Dover score, which states that Stravinsky preferred these English versions, perhaps because in some cases they render the original Russian better than does the French. Brancron ( talk) 07:04, 4 April 2009 (UTC)brancron
"This article is about the Igor Stravinsky ballet" ... shouldn't that read: "This article is about the Vaslav Nijinsky ballet"? For example, Serenade is not a ballet by Tschaikovsky but one by George Balanchine. Ballets are to be credited to their choreographer, not to the composer of the score. Is that right? Please advise. 207.237.33.36 ( talk) 04:26, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Oh, and if this article is primarily about the score (defining the term ballet as a musical form), shouldn't there be a different article for the incredibly influential Rite of Spring ballet (dance)? 207.237.33.36 ( talk) 04:31, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
I also must point out several factors: A- there are several "citation needed" comments peppered throughout; B- the article does indeed deal with a majority of the ballet, not just the musical composition (especially the 'Composition and critical reception' section); and C- it is deserving mention that in 1913 copyright laws did not apply to dances: Laban was not devised until the late 20's...so Rite of Spring receiving more search results in LOC or elsewhere as being attributed to Stravinsky is not surprising. 207.237.33.36 ( talk) 05:22, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
To a reader who is interested in both the dance and the music, it is crystal clear that the dance element in this article is dwarfed by the musical content. The element of professional dance criticism in newspapers and books is almost completely lacking. The positioning of the dance within Nijinsky's career as dancer and choreographer is lacking. Obvious sources of information are ignored (eg Beaumont's The Diagilev Ballet in London (1940). Sad to say, this is typical of the articles on individual ballets in WP. For all that, there is much good content in the article. Macdonald-ross ( talk) 17:40, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
The instrumentation as currently listed includes:
Timpani (2 players, one with 5 drums, the other with 4 including a Piccolo Timpani)
My Boosey and Hawkes score states: "The smallest combination comprises five timpani: one very small (for the high B), two small and two large timpani." There's certainly nothing in the score to suggest any need for the 9 drums indicated by the present listing.
Of course in practice the players may choose to use more drums than the minimum, whether for ease of execution or for improved sonority. But I'm pretty certain none of the (half-dozen or so) live performances I've attended have used as many as 9 drums. I will change the text to conform to the stipulation in the score. Vilĉjo ( talk) 00:41, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
The article as it stands states:
The Disney studios maintain they were completely surprised by his turn of opinion in latter years. In the most bizarre iteration of Stravinsky's story regarding his trip to the studio, he claimed he signed over the rights for The Firebird to the Disney studios only after Walt Disney personally threatened him and told him he was going to film The Firebird whether he liked it or not, so he might as well sign over the rights and be paid for it. and then says: Such a story strains credibility . . .
What is being cited that the claim strains credibility?
L Hamm 05:28, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
The Disney section is crazily too long. It looks sort of like it was written by someone from Disney studios, a member of the family or a rabid fan. SM —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.48.16.193 ( talk) 05:00, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
To my ear, there is a part of the sound track from the movie "Dark City" directed by Alex Proyas (1998) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118929/ that sounds like Stravinski.
There is a trailer (today at least) at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOHn2uzriBg that at about the 90 second mark plays a theme that sounds like the rhythems and dissonances of Evocation of the Ancestors OR Ancestral Spirits (Evocation des Ancêtres). Throughout the movie, the theme is used several times in variation.
I checked for this on IMDB and in the credits at the end of the DVD version of the movie.
Perhaps this is too trivial for the article, and perhaps my musical pattern matching skills are not discriminating enough.
Does anyone else hear this too? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.208.232.168 ( talk) 03:32, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
There's a resemblance, but this is nothing new. Film composers have been imitating and borrowing from Stravinsky for decades. This is just one example of hundreds. Keen ears, though! I haven't seen the film, but sometimes the music in the trailer is not from the actual film. Markhh ( talk) 06:11, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Surely some of you folks have enough background in music history to know that the sound of Stravinsky's music did not incite the riots, let alone through some strange reaction in the audience's brains to the novel sonorities. Riots like this were happening in controversial concerts for decades, and this one had begun before a note was played. The real controversy was the choreography. Anyone with access to the latest (or next-to-latest) edition of the Grout/Burkholder music history textbook should be able to replace this spurious nonsense with primary source-supported accounts. Let's keep standards high, folks. Contributions/76.184.227.103 ( talk) 14:49, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
I replaced "musicologist" with parodist. He has no training in the academic field of musicology, so the label was incorrect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.174.102.198 ( talk) 14:01, 29 March 2010 (UTC)