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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 03:56, 18 January 2022 (UTC) reply

Why does anyone object to reorganizing the images so they fit better in the article? -- evrik ^{( talk)} 03:58, 8 June 2020 (UTC) reply

Because your changes are definitely not an improvement of the article's layout. Images are supposed to correspond as closely as possible to adjacent text. Also, reducing the size of images and bunching them together as you did greatly reduces their impact in illustrating the article. Carlstak ( talk) 04:02, 8 June 2020 (UTC) reply

• Which section are you referring to? They all look good to me, especially the top. -- evrik ^{( talk)} 04:05, 8 June 2020 (UTC) reply

Sorry, but your version is sloppily done. For example, in your version, the Duke Kahanamoku and the Hui Nalu Club picture is no longer next to the paragraph that contains the information, "Freeth and Duke Kahanamoku started the multiracial Hui Nalu Club (Club of Waves) at Waikīkī Beach", which it is supposed to illustrate. Instead, you moved it so it was adjacent to the info about Captain James Cook venturing to Hawaii in 1778.

For another example, in your version the picture of the surfer memorial service at Huntington Beach Pier is next to the paragraph containing the ancient Hawaiian kahuna's prayer rather than its proper, previous location next to the article text about modern "paddle outs" at memorial services for fallen surfers. Also, your subheadings that repeat the section heading are unnecessary and redundant, and you've got stray straight brackets. Your arrangement of the images does not look as good on the desktop version of site. Please respect WP:BRD process; your changes were reverted, so you should seek consensus for your changes here on talk page. Carlstak ( talk) 04:47, 8 June 2020 (UTC) reply

• You realize in at you're discussing above that images bleed into the next section. I think that the images do fit the space as they are in. So, reading your comments, we'll start with the top and you can tell me why that change doesn't work. -- evrik ^{( talk)} 02:10, 9 June 2020 (UTC) reply

Your last yields a much better result overall than your previous. Everything seems to be in its logical, proper place now; I still think the sub-heading at the top that repeats "Surf Culture" is unnecessary, but that's a minor quibble. There is no good reason, however, to bunch up images at the top of a section as in your previous, which effectively creates a mini-gallery for sections, separating some of them from their corresponding text. That is not how images are used to illustrate an article, if that's what you're intending to do. Carlstak ( talk) 11:28, 9 June 2020 (UTC) reply

Spirituality section

I have now adjusted the second image so it doesn't bleed into the next section. -- evrik ^{( talk)} 20:26, 9 June 2020 (UTC) reply

The chart with the Hawaiian and English versions of the kahuna's surf chant is more economical with space and makes it easier to compare the two, although it's not as aesthetically pleasing as the blockquote version, in my opinion. But again, that's a minor quibble, so it's fine with me. Personally, I think the photo of the surfer memorial service at Huntington Beach Pier was better situated next to the paragraph that actually describes memorial paddle outs; you've moved it next to a paragraph about the Huntington Beach church meeting on the beach and paddling out, but at least they both refer to Huntington Beach, and it's still close to the paragraph that describes memorial paddle outs, so I guess it's okay.

I don't have a preference on the box. I'm curious how you view the page, because I show the HBP image bordering the paragraph you speak of above. 03:07, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

I have a widescreen computer display with an aspect ration of 16:9. The image does move depending on whether you zoom in or out on the page. Carlstak ( talk) 03:25, 11 June 2020 (UTC) reply

Fixed by separating image file with space from text above it. Carlstak ( talk) 11:56, 11 June 2020 (UTC) reply

Women in surfing

The images bled into the next section. Thoughts? -- evrik ^{( talk)} 03:52, 11 June 2020 (UTC) reply

I've restored the proper layout of images in section so that they correspond to text, and I don't see them bleeding into next section at all, zoomed in or out. Carlstak ( talk) 11:51, 11 June 2020 (UTC) reply

This sentence must be protected from outsiders, killjoys, pedants and creeps. It is "unencyclopedic"? Please. Go edit an article on math or something. In This House, one of the primary terms used by surfers around the world is the word "stoked".

Let's build consensus around this simple goodhearted factoid and let it shine its dim light on the world. It's tucked away where it's not going to hurt anybody.

Thank you! 2600:1702:6D1:28B0:A16B:82DD:DCC8:4521 ( talk) 22:26, 13 June 2023 (UTC) reply

What's all this drama about? I don't see where anyone has tried to remove it from the article. I added an appropriate quote from John Engle and cited his book, Surfing in the Movies: A Critical History. Carlstak ( talk) 00:48, 14 June 2023 (UTC) reply