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I just created this article.-- Pericles of Athens Talk 07:14, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the invitation to read your another featured article first hand, all I can say is WOW. I can see the coming of age of a great Sinologist, no doubt of it. There is this minor thing I like to point out, is regarding the section:Confucianism becomes paramount. According to an article I read, Emperor Wu of Han was the real person that started the Confucianism-King-Emperor-combination(whatever it means) by murdering one of the Liu Prince(I do not have his name off hand, the prince who wrote 准南子). That prince Liu had a lot of free thinking scholars with him, roughly about 2000-3000 scholars, all were killed in one go. This event marked the absolute reign of Confuciunism-Emperor ideology that lasted for 3000 years, the 君臣父子 relationship. It is still valid, and being utilized today, as in the case of Sino-Vietnamese War, the so called teach-you-a-lesson-war Arilang talk 23:26, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Another issue I like to know(or to read) more on wiki is the Chinese slaves. Of all the China related articles , this topic has hardly being touched on. For example, (1) what is the percentage of Chinese slaves compared to Chinese freeman (2) Western society has Ten Commandments, do Han/Tang culture has anything equivalent? Arilang talk 00:13, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Yes you are right, it is 劉安. Huainanzi, according the essay I read, was much more than a musical book, it was a vast collection of free thinking ideas, and kind of free thought 自由思想 . By killing Liu An and his scholars, and destroyed all their essays and books, Han Wu had begun the dark side of Confucianism reign on Han Chinese culture, namely the 君臣父子 relationship(another wiki article yet to be developed). The worst, and the darkest side, of this relationship is:君欲臣死,臣不得不死, 父要子亡, 子不得不亡. Translation: Official had to die whenever Emperor wanted him to die, son had to die whenever father wanted him to die. This To die idea was advocated to the max by Qing rulers in order to control Han Chinese population. Lucky the western culture did not have this kind of suffocating thought on it's populace. I am not saying Confucianism is bad bad bad, but it's suffocating grip on free thinking througout these thousands of years history is truly remarkable. Arilang talk 07:20, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Yes, western culture has gone through Dark ages and Middle ages, but at least western culture believe in there is only one life for each life, unlike oriental belief of Reincarnation, which really means lifes after life, or something like that. Because western culture's belief of one life, the natural conclusion is then each life is unique, is to be respected, and is precious. This is the fundamental, and the beginning of Human rights concept. Whereas throughout Han Chinese Confucius-based-concept,民 is always dispensable, disposable, due to this 3000 years old of Confucianism 君臣父子 tradition. I do not know any western scholars' viewpoints on this issue, but many Han Chinese scholars do have this kind of ideas, that is,人民 is 草民, 賤民, or 蟻民 . And 君王 is 天子, in Japan it becomes 天皇, is not human anymore. I think this is one of the basic differences between East and West. Arilang talk 10:47, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
There is mention of a pestling shop, which links to mortar and pestle, but the term "pestling shop" is not defined on either page. -- BenjaminBarrett12 ( talk) 22:53, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
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