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Ryanair DAC and Ryanair Holdings

Hey, some days ago a user changed "Ryanair DAC" to "Ryanair Holdings Plc" in the very first sentence of the article.

Now that sentence is wrong by stating "Ryanair Holdings Plc is an Irish ultra low-cost carrier founded in 1984."

It would be correct this way: "Ryanair Holdings Plc is a multinational ultra low-cost airline group. The transition from the airline Ryanair and its subsidiaries to the airline group began in 2019. The oldest airline of the group Ryanair DAC was founded in 1984."

In the infobox it says "Parent company: Ryanair Holdings plc" which is also not correct anymore.

Is it time to seperate the airline and the airline group into 2 different articles? Or just leave it with replacing the first sentence in the article and in the infobox replacing "parent company" with "subsidiaries"? WikiPate ( talk) 01:52, 17 September 2023 (UTC) reply

We could have two infoboxes, one for the group corporation, and one for the Ryanair DAC airline. But it would probably be best to have a separate article for Ryanair DAC, since we have separate articles for the other subsidiaries. cagliost ( talk) 02:25, 17 September 2023 (UTC) reply
I adjust the article for being an airline group so it looks like the Easyjet article and to prepare it for being split. If somebody knows how to split it into seperate airline and airline group articles following the WP regulations, go ahead. WikiPate ( talk) 15:14, 17 September 2023 (UTC) reply

On reflection, I don't think it's necessary to create a separate article for Ryanair DAC. The article could distinguish more clearly between the Group and the DAC, but the History section works well as a single article. cagliost ( talk) 15:46, 9 December 2023 (UTC) reply

Built-in gangway

Ryanair Boeing 737-800 or 737-8AS with registration EI-EBA at Eindhoven Airport

Ryanair uses 737-800 with built in gangways, or air stairs, labelled as 737-8AS. 91.6.188.254 ( talk) 02:01, 4 December 2023 (UTC) reply

I'm a little confused as to why this conversation was started?
Disputed anything you said, and it's well published elsewhere.
Also, 737-8AS is the customer label for the aircraft and has no relation to Air Stairs being installed. T9537 ( talk) 19:02, 29 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Current group fleet dispute

Two editors are having a dispute about the order in which the MAX 200 (a derivation of the MAX-8) and the MAX 10 should appear in the list.

One wants to list them in numerical order based on 200, the other based on 8.

Generally, manufacturers number aircraft types in chronological order of first production. One interesting exception is the Boeing 717 which post-dates the every Boeing aircraft except the 787. However, it is listed in numerical order in the list of Boeing aircraft rather than date of first flight.

So the question here is which should we do here? Do we list in chronological order of first flight or in strict numerical order (given that the MAX 200, while a derivative of the MAX 8, is a separate model)? Another option would be to list by order of date that Ryanair ordered each model. Lard Almighty ( talk) 07:29, 17 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Thanks for bringing this up. I have commented about the name of the aircraft here: Talk:Boeing_737_MAX#MAX_8-200_official_name
In addition to that, I think it's preposterous to put the Max 10s before the Max 8s (of which the 8-200 is a variant). We should list all the 737s in chronological order. (It doesn't make a difference whether it's by order of first flight, or first Ryanair order.)
@ Lard Almighty:, what do you think? cagliost ( talk) 09:34, 17 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Of course, if our dispute at Talk:Boeing_737_MAX#MAX_8-200_official_name is resolved as I would prefer, the alphanumeric order will match the chronological order. cagliost ( talk) 09:37, 17 January 2024 (UTC) reply
As far as I can tell, the only airline to refer to it as the MAX 200 (without an 8) is Ryanair in an attempt to pretend that it's not a MAX 8 (same avionics etc., just higher density and extra doors) so it's not "tainted" by the MAX 8's issues. I guess there is an argument for calling it the MAX 200 on this page given that's how the airline refers to it. Lard Almighty ( talk) 14:46, 17 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Ryanair don't call it the 200, they call it the 8200. This Guardian article from 2019 details that name change. Here are some articles from their corporate website calling it the 8200: 2020 2021. And a Reuters article from just a few days ago about Ryanair calling it the 8200. cagliost ( talk) 15:04, 17 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Another consideration is the need to make clear to the reader this is a 737 MAX, not a Boeing 737-200. On the Boeing 737 MAX article, context makes this clear. But on this article, we need to be explicit. cagliost ( talk) 13:22, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply

I reverted @ VenFlyer98: again and invited them to participate in this discussion. I note I am not the only user to have reverted VenFlyer98; T9537 has done so as well. cagliost ( talk) 11:12, 10 February 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Cagliost: First of all, T9537 has never reverted a single one of my edits. They did move the MAX 10 back down, but it was not a revert. On my talk page, you said “me and other editors keep reverting you,” yet you are the only one to ever directly revert me. This shouldn’t even be a cause for discussion: since the “MAX 200” name is being used, it goes under the 10. The tables go in numerical order. The table was like this for a while, as well. Additionally, it has been like this on other pages, see VietJet Air. In a similar case it’s the same reason why for airlines that operate the A321LR, it’s listed above the A321neo despite the LR being a variant of the neo (examples of this can be seen at JetBlue and TAP Air Portugal). Additionally, remember that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and is not made for aviation enthusiasts (WP:NOT), there is no reason it shouldn’t be in numerical/alphabetical order. VenFlyer98 ( talk) 16:14, 15 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Doesn’t Ryanair operate a few Learjet 45’s?

I’ve seen photo’s and read articles about it and supposedly it operates about four Learjet’s in its fleet. It’s also supposedly transport Maintenance crew and parts and well after a while of reading on the Simple Flying Page the Four aircraft are M-ABEU,M-AGBV,M-ABJA,and M-ABRB with ages around 11-20 years But one thing is that it usually has a Ryanair Callsign(FR) as FR1,FR2,And FR3. I’m not sure if it’s important or not but in my opinion it is.

Source: [1] https://simpleflying.com/ryanair-learjets/#:~:text=Ryanair's%20four%20Learjets,typical%20passenger%20capacity%20of%20nine. Heyymann21 ( talk) 02:10, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply

They are mentioned:
"The company also owns four Learjet 45 business jets, based at London Stansted Airport and Bergamo Airport but registered in the Isle of Man, which are mainly used for the quick transportation of maintenance personnel and small aircraft parts around the network." Lard Almighty ( talk) 10:22, 5 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Oh I didn’t see that lol sorry. Heyymann21 ( talk) 02:07, 6 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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