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Hi, WhisperToMe. Thanks for asking. A funny thing about this article is that the images have generated more discussion than any other single thing. The image you've found is good. However, LX 121, who added the existing lead image, was pretty insistent on it, and it is an excellent image. I was the main contributor to the article and nominated it for FA, when a somewhat different set of images passed muster. I have no strong opinion one way or the other except to say that if the new image is added, the old one should be removed. In other words, simply increasing the number of images would not be a good idea. I'd be interested to hear what
User:Tillman and
User:Lx 121 think.
Finetooth (
talk) 18:57, 18 February 2011 (UTC)reply
I'm in favor of keeping the Cook Bank ruins photo as the lede, because this is the most recognizable and iconic image of Rhyolite (imo).
Ken Lund has contributed many fine photos of the Rhyolite/Beatty area. But I don't feel a picture of the BLM sign is really needed in our article. Cheers,
Pete Tillman (
talk) 20:24, 18 February 2011 (UTC)reply
Something I want to add
Hey all, my great-grandmother used to live in Rhyolite, and I was wondering if I could share her story in this article? —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
204.113.118.138 (
talk) 20:13, 10 May 2011 (UTC)reply
Thanks for asking first rather than just adding the story. Wikipedia claims must be supported by a reliable source or sources as defined by
WP:RS. Otherwise, the claims, stories, or statements can't be verified. The test is not whether the claims are true or not; it's whether readers can verify the claims by looking at the sources. Reliable sources include things like newspaper articles, magazine articles, books, government documents, and other on-line or off-line publications that are vetted by editors and have a reputation for accuracy. If your great-grandmother's story was published by a reliable source, it would be interesting to consider including it somehow. If not, then no matter how compelling a story, it can't be included.
Finetooth (
talk) 00:07, 12 May 2011 (UTC)reply
She never published it but all of her friends said it was true. She's dead now so she can't publish anything now. Can I tell you the story then see if you think it sounds like it could have happened? —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
TheTrainEnthusiast (
talk •
contribs) 21:33, 17 May 2011 (UTC)reply
It's not a matter of whether it's true or not. Please see
WP:RS for details.
Finetooth (
talk) 23:51, 17 May 2011 (UTC)reply
I see that you're new to Wikipedia, and I realize that it can be pretty daunting at first to figure out how everything works. There's a note near the bottom of every Wikipedia page viewed in edit mode. Part of it says: "Please post only encyclopedic information that can be verified by external sources. Please maintain a neutral, unbiased point of view." From what you have said above, it seems unlikely that your grandmother's story could be verified by external sources. You might know it to be true, and you might convince me as well, but that would still not make it verifiable to others. The idea behind inline citations to reliable external sources is that they make it possible for any reader, now and in the future, to verify the claims in an article by checking the external sources. It would be fine to publish your grandmother's story on a personal blog or web site but not here. Another guideline you might check out is at
WP:V, which explains verifiability. Hope this helps.
Finetooth (
talk) 02:39, 18 May 2011 (UTC)reply
A further note. You may not realize that this particular article is featured or what that means.
WP:FA has an explanation. Suffice to say that even though no article can ever be considered perfect, FAs have been heavily vetted by multiple editors and should be altered with caution. Since you are a train enthusiast, you might consider tackling the articles about the railroads that served Rhyolite. Those articles are flawed partly because they mostly lack inline citations to reliable sources that support the specific claims made in the articles. See, for example,
Tonopah and Tidewater Railroad. It has a lot of information, but none of the claims is easy to verify because none has a citation to a particular reliable source. The bibliography (Sources) at the end is a sort of halfway measure, but we can't tell which source supports what. Fixing that
WP:V problem will be a lot of work because it will involve tracking down the sources. It's something I would enjoy doing, but, oh my, there's so much to do elsewhere that I'll never get to it. Generally, if you want to work on railroad articles, you'll find plenty, and any help with Nevada (or any) railroads would be appreciated.
Finetooth (
talk) 03:02, 18 May 2011 (UTC)reply
I know, I just read the verifiability policy because my mentor told me to. I would be interested in fixing the railroad articles. I will see what I can do. Thank you for the information.
TheTrainEnthusiast (
talk) 14:51, 18 May 2011 (UTC)reply
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