Background and format Y
P1 Y
- Original Research: "The Dutch television channel RTL 7...acquired the television rights of darts from SBS6" - need a source to verify that RTL 7 and SBS6 are Dutch TV Channels. Mastercaller doesn't specify it.Y
- Removed
MWright96
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- Prose - Clarity: "acquired the television rights of darts from SBS6" - the "television rights of darts" parts sounds odd. I think it needs to be clarified that RTL7 was allowed to broadcast darts after obtaining those rights from SBS6.
Note: see below.
- Reworded
MWright96
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- Since you removed the first point that they were both television channels, "broadcast" is now the odd word out as Mastercaller doesn't state RTL7 is a TV channel.Y --
MrLinkinPark333 (
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- Changed word
MWright96
(talk) 19:31, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
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- Again, I don't think "show" is the right word here. If there was a source that showed RTL7 was allowed to sponsor or allowed to hold a RTL7 darts tournament after obtaining the rights, I think it'd work. Yes I'm being nitpicky. --
MrLinkinPark333 (
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- Done
MWright96
(talk) 04:45, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
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- Good enough. Sometimes the source itself limits the amount of ways to describe the same thing. Hopefully this was the only nitpick that needed more comments than usual. --
MrLinkinPark333 (
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- Original Research: "the Professional Darts Corporation (PDC) and RTL 7 publicly announced the tournament" - Only RTL 7 did the announcement. However, it does state it would be a PDC tournament, so the sentence needs a slight reorder.Y
- Prose - Grammar: "The tournament was broadcast live" -> "The tournament would be broadcast live" (as RTL7's source was desrcribing what was going to happen, it hadn't happened yet).Y
P2 Y
- Close paraphrasing/plagiarism - Is there a way to rephrase "rest of the world" to avoid word-for-word copy of RTL7 in both first/last sentences? It sounds like an unique phrasing that a slight reword would be needed to pass limited wording.
Note: see below.
- Prose - Grammar: Various parts that need to be written in future tense as the tournament hadn't happen yet with the RTL7 source:Y
- "A total of 12 players were in the competition" -> "A total of 12 players would enter the competition"
- "This was the first televised darts tournament" -> "this would be the first televised darts tournament"
- "The first two winners of the quarter-finals played each other" -? "The first two winners of the quarter-finals would play each other
- "The final on 21 March was contested" -> "The final on 21 March would be contested"
- Related to Prose above - Otherwise, since you cited Mastercaller in the past tense (which in this case works as its not a future source), you could swap out the RTL7 source for these above instances. Not sure if the fact about how a Dutch/Non-Dutch player would meet in the final is covered by any other source besides RTL7 before the event.Y
- Original research: "The first two winners of the quarter-finals played each other in the first semi-final with the third and fourth quarter-final victors in the second semi-final" - not according to RTL7. It says Match #1 winner would face Match #3 winner. Similarily, Match #2 winner would face Match #4 winner. See the March 21st section.
Note: see next point.
- Close paraphrasing - "order of play for the semi-finals was determined" - Looks a bit of close paraphrasing of PDC. Some rewording needed for limited wording.Y
Prize fund Y
- Question: I'm surprised there was no nine dart finish / highest checkout prize. Since PDC source doesn't mention, I'm guessing those were the only prizes? If so, all of this section is verified.
- No prize money for a nine-dart/highest checkout as far as I know
MWright96
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- Okay. Just saw that
Darts Database says the same thing. First time I've seen none of these prizes in your articles so thought I should ask ;) --
MrLinkinPark333 (
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Draw and results / Groups A to D Y
- Original Research: The dart averages for the four Groups do not match the Mastercaller source. Most of these are slightly off in the list below except for the one noted.Y
- Group A - Klassen both matches, Stompé match #2, Scholten both matches.
- Group B - Taylor both matches, Jenkins match #1, Lewis match #2.
- Group C - van Barneveld both matches, van der Voort match #2, van Gerwen #2.
- Group D - Anderson match #1, Wade both matches, Whitlock match #2 should be 94.59 not 94.96.
- Original Research: With the adjusted dart averages per match, the AVG for all of the twelve players need to be recalculated as they are inaccurate. I'm mainly concerned with Whitlock's average per above.Y
- For all six points, have used the PDC sources and fixed the Darts Database link to show the averages
MWright96
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- Nice find with the PDC sources! Turns out Mastercaller had the wrong dart averages. As for the table averages, the calculations check out. --
MrLinkinPark333 (
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Knockout rounds Y
- Inline citations: Need citations to verify the best of legs, dates, and dart average.Y
- Original Research: Like above, Mastercaller doesn't confirm all of the dart averages in this
source. Luckily, they're all only slightly inaccurate for the following players:Y
- Quarterfinals: Stompé, van der Voort, van Barneveld, Scholten, Taylor, Wade, Anderson, Lewis
- Semi-finals: van der Voort, van van Barneveld, Taylor
- Final: Taylor only
- For all five points, have used the PDC sources, fixed the Darts Database link to show the averages and added another Mastercaller source to verify players' nationality, dates of the matches and their format.
MWright96
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- All good. Odd how Darts Database was right but Mastercaller was wrong for the averages. --
MrLinkinPark333 (
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Images / captions Y
- No issue: Egmond aan Zee picture is Public domain and caption is grammatically correct.
- Photo question: Is there a free/fair use picture of Hotel Zuiderdui available? If not, then you can skip this question.Y
- Photo request: Could you add some free/fair use photos of the dart players? For example: Phil Taylor since he won the tournament.
Note: see below.
- Added photo of Taylor
MWright96
(talk) 12:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
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- Thanks for adding Taylor. Taylor's photo is properly licensed to use, but his caption needs a period as it's a full sentence.Y
Leftover points for the first part of the review
To make it easier so the points don't get missed. I mentioned them above but recapping them here as well:
- P1 background: "broadcast" is now the odd one out as Mastercaller isn't clear that RTL7 is a TV Channel. This was after you removed the sentence that stated RTL7 and SBS9 were TV channels. Alternativelly, if a source mentioned RTL7 was allowed to sposnor a darts tournament after obtaining the rights, it'd work better since Mastercaller doesn't state it was allowed to "show" darts.Y
- P2 background: "rest of the world" needs rephrasing for the last sentence. You addressed the one in the first sentence.Y
- P2 background: "third quarter-final winners" - "third quarter-final winner" - singular not plural.Y
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