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Curt Roberts that is absent from the Pirate History on WikiPirates. Although his stay was short with the Pirate organization (1954 - 1957), the Pirate organization's he is a part of Pirate history. It would be nice to see that correction...
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 14:08, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
I never heard of it before today either, but I don't live anywhere near Pittsburgh. But a Google search indicates it's pretty common on the internet, so maybe it's an internet thing. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 01:48, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Being a lifelong Pirates' fan and living pretty close to Pittsburgh, I've never heard it used. Unless a legit source can be found for it, I think it should be removed. Black ngold29 02:26, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
I know that it would be easy to add 1,000,000 templates at the end of any article, but this one, PA Sports teams, seems relevant. Any objections? JohnnyPolo24 ( talk) 13:29, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
I see that the Pirates are in the category "Sports clubs established in 1887". I realize that the Alleghenys joined the National League in that year, but they were in the American Association for 5 season first. Since they were indeed founded before 1887 should that be adjusted? JohnnyPolo24 ( talk) 21:03, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
I think this section should be removed. While there are a few interesting inclusions it has no criteria, and has basically become a list of favorite players. I can't see how it contributes to making the article any better. Are there any objections to its removal? Black ngold29 15:25, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Having already tied for the record of longest losing streak in all of professional sports (not just baseball), I feel that this is already lead-worthy. If there's major disagreement, however, I'll wait until the end of the season... I hope the Bucs don't make it 17!
It's already in the article, mentioned in the post-1992 "Leland Era" section, and has been cited. I get your point, though. If they lose another season, however, I feel that this will be undoubtedly lead-worthy. Perhaps that's a conversation for post-season... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.201.233.141 ( talk) 19:45, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Those images can't really be free, can they? If they aren't, they are unneeded decoration and should be removed. -- Bongwarrior ( talk) 23:44, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
"In 1971, the Pirates also became the first Major League Baseball team to field an all-black starting lineup.[7] That lineup, on September 1, was Rennie Stennett, Gene Clines, Roberto Clemente, Willie Stargell, Manny Sanguillen, Dave Cash, Al Oliver, Jackie Hernandez, and Dock Ellis.[8]"
The official website for Pittsburgh pirates uses the term "minority". [1] Roberto Clemente was a Puerto Rican, Hispanic American. It would prob be a good idea to change the citation of 7 and the wording to "all-minority" which is straight off the official site of the pirates. Senshisoldier ( talk) 21:05, 14 September 2009 (UTC)Senshisoldier
The 2009 section of "Franchise history" violates Wikipedia's NPOV policy, this sentence in particular: "The team continued to shed payroll, trade away its best players for prospects, and show no desire to build a contender in 2009." Despite the fact that this is logically incoherent--anyone who knows anything about baseball will tell you that "building a contender" entails stocking a system with prospects--it clearly displays the author's point-of-view. Perhaps it should be clarified that this is the view of many observers of the franchise, but that many *other* sports writers and commentators (I'll be happy to provide links if necessary) see the moves of the post-2007 management as having vastly improved the Pirates' chances of winning down the line. At the very least, the sentence I quoted above ought to be reworded in accordance with Wikipedia standards. Could someone with more knowledge/experience with this page advise me on how to move forward? Can I edit the section in question? Cpollak ( talk) 02:35, 5 May 2010 (UTC)Cpollak
Given the fact that baseball is becoming an increasingly more international sport (i.e., more non-U.S. leagues in existence, more non-U.S. players in the MLB), the roster formatting on Wikipedia should probably be updated to reflect that. If you look at the formatting for other international sports (such as soccer), the player nationalities are indicated using flag icons. I think this would be a beneficial update to each of the major league rosters in the MLB, it would not be too difficult to implement and it would not clutter the information on the page. However, before such change a change is implemented, I thought it would be healthy to achieve at least some form of consensus on the talk page for each team. yuristache ( talk) 01:10, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
Until this streak ends, every year will extend the professional sports consecutive losing season streak. This means when the streak ends, it will provide one heck of a celebration by fans. Before then, it needs to be noted every year that the streak is the longest of any professional sport in North America. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.235.90.30 ( talk) 03:33, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
They suck, BADLY!! Vegas has even taken bets on how many years this streak will be! The most common is 20. How many think it will go another 2 years? How many think it will end next year? How many think it will go past 20? —Preceding
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The following edit:
The Pirates continued their streak into 2010. David Berri, president of the North American Association of Sports Economists, alleges that the Pirates are purposely trying to lose to remain profitable. "Teams have a choice. They can seek to maximize winning, what the Yankees do, or you can be the Pirates and make as much money as you can in your market. The Pirates aren't trying to win." [1]
was removed because it was accused of as being "fringe" and a violation of WP:UNDUE. I don't see either. Fringe from a notable figure on wikipedia whose organization is also notable is not fringe. The weight is not undue either, as it is only one sentence. I propose it be put back in. 161.185.151.150 ( talk) 15:53, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
The final bullet is applied, and most valid, in this case. — KV5 • Talk • 16:00, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
I tried to improve the second sentence of the lead but KillerVogel5 reverted me so I will explain the rationale behind my edit here.
The second sentence of the lead reads "They play in the Central Division of the National League, and are five-time World Series Champions, in addition to the distinction of playing in the first modern World Series."
This sentence is poorly formed because there is no verb that can be reasonably associated with the phrase "distinction of playing in the first modern World Series". The noun distinction needs a verb to go with it and the closest verb is are. The problem is that you would wind up saying "They are the distinction of playing in the first modern World Series" which isn't right. The correct verb to use with "distinction" is "to have" although similar verbs such as "to bear", "to earn", etc. can also be used. The other problem in the sentence has to do with using the present tense for something that happened in 1903. The correct tense would be "having played".
However, since we mention the fact that they played in the first World Series in the fourth sentence of the lead, there's actually no point in saying it twice so I just removed it from the second sentence of the lead altogether.
-- Richard S ( talk) 17:01, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
I would like to see a list, or a link to an existing article, detailing Pirate ownership. What made me think of it (working mainly from memory) was what led to General Manager Syd Thrift's departure in 1988, essentially a non-coming-to of terms with then owners, but I cannot find (or remember clearly) who the owners were. It was a significant turning point in team history, and a great example of what happens when you have a competent GM but bad ownership. For purposes of this article, though, just having the owner history would be very helpful. Typofixer76 ( talk) 12:52, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Thank you; I added the link to the See Also section. Typofixer76 ( talk) 15:05, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
A proposal has been made to delete all rivalry articles save Phillies-Pirates. If you have viewpoints on whether to merge/keep/delete and facts/citations to justify it please comment here. Thanks for your participation. Hholt01 ( talk) 08:43, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
Not sure how to do so, as when I go to edit the roster his name does not appear for some reason, but he should be linked to his designated page now! In other words, he is no longer the only Pirate without a Wikipedia page. -- AlexanderHovanec ( talk) 01:30, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
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to Acrisure Stadium. I'd do it, but the article is locked. 12.66.25.218 ( talk) 23:49, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
As seen here | [1] | is this notable/important enough to mention on the Pirates article as being the first team to be awarded the 1st pick in the first ever MLB draft lottery?
If so, where do we put it? Franchise history, First-in-MLB accomplishments (unlikely), a new section/subsection about the draft history of the club?
Thoughts? TheGREYHORSE ( talk) 01:38, 8 December 2022 (UTC) TheGREYHORSE ( talk) 01:38, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
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it could be also argued another connection between the cities is the Pittsburgh Steelers winning Super Bowl XL, played in Detroit. Since 1960 world series was the last championship to be won by a team in Pittsburgh, the super bowl was arguably as close to a home clinch as Pittsburgh has had, as it was a de facto home game based on fans attending. The red wings & penguins are mentioned, but it's not said that both teams met in the cup final in both 2008 & 2009, with each team clinching on the road. Lastly the current ballparks opened in 2000 (comerica) and 2001 (pnc). Both stadiums feature only two decks, most built in the 90s-present have 3 or more. Both feature a view of the downtown skyline beyond the outfield. 104.14.176.58 ( talk) 00:28, 9 April 2024 (UTC)