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I removed
" Er sagte bei einer Reportage zum Islam ihr müsst bei dieser Scheisse mitmachen und damit meinte er den Islam damit und wer den islam belidigt der ist nicht seiner religion treu und ist kein Muslim mehr.(Bitte lassen sie diesen Kommtentar durch) "
because its in German, and POV. 95.88.179.61 ( talk) 16:26, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Pierre Vogel ist ein betrüger und verführt alle Menschen zum bösen Der Christentum ist das einziege das Zählt. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.23.125.8 ( talk) 02:42, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Who wrote that article? Vogel himself? Totally biased article. He is NOT well known as preacher to the German public. He is not taken seriously by Germans wherever he publicly performs. Germany is a largely atheist country where preachers and missionaries are seen as an intrusion of privacy. His preachings contain suggestions to Muslims living in Germany which clearly invoke breaking different laws; thus he is under permanent surveillance by German authorities. He is at least controversial, if not rejected by the public as well as not too far from going to court. I do not read a single thing about his controversial behavior in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.88.127.11 ( talk) 13:25, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
I respectfully disagree with the user who removed the "notability" tag. This man Vogel was not a notable boxer (he never rose high in any organisation's ranking and he had no high-profile or widely covered fights). He fought only 7 times, and won only 2 of those 7. Moreover, he is FAR less notable as a Muslim convert and preacher than, for example, Abdur Raheem Green or Yusuf Chambers from the UK. The Wikipedia pages on both Green and Chambers underwent extensive discussion before they were deleted for lack of notability. GorgeCustersSabre ( talk) 10:12, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Mr Vogel was not a notable boxer (he never rose high in any organisation's ranking and he had no high-profile or widely covered fights). He fought only 7 times, and won only 2 of those 7. Moreover, although he has upset people with a few speeches, which have been picked up in a few papers, he is FAR less notable as a Muslim convert and preacher than, for example, Abdur Raheem Green, Hamza Tzortzis and Yusuf Chambers from the UK. The Wikipedia pages on Mr Green, Mr Tzortzis and Mr Chambers underwent extensive discussion before they were deleted for lack of notability. I thus believe that Mr Vogel does not meet notability requirements. I am keen to see what consensus emerges. GorgeCustersSabre ( talk) 17:43, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
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