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Would it make sense, it WOULD NOT even be neccessary, to compile a list of the various references these names came from and provide a reference for each distinct name? wbfergus Talk 18:42, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Does anybody see the need to also list the different physiographic sub-sections, if an area has been broken out to that level? wbfergus Talk 11:45, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
I moved them into the Canadian Shield since they are truly part of that physiographic region. They are not related to the Appalachians at all. Jmpenzone ( talk) 16:40, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
" Intermontane Plateaus" is a US term; the Canadian equivalent is Interior System - eee Physiographic regions of British Columbia and the accompanying maps. The site is unofficial but is a distilation of a classification in the official BC Govt-defined geography Landforms of British Columbia, S. Holland (1964, 1976) and which is the basis of the British Columbia Geographical Names Information System and the provincial basemap. The reason for the non-use of the term "plateaus" here is that northern BC is not plateaus, but a system of mountain ranges known in Holland's nomenclature as the Interior Mountains, which include such complexes as the Hazelton Mountains, Skeena Mountains, Omineca Mountains and Cassiar Mountains as well as the Tagish and Tahltan Highlands; similarly farther south the Interior Plateau includes various mountain ranges as well as the Quesnel, Shuswap and Okanagan Highlands. The Intermontane Plateaus physiographic region is esseentially the same region, just with a different; I note that his use of Interior Plains conforms to designations already here; maybe Western System and Eastern System are correspond, or there maybe are American equivalent terms for extensions of the same classification/concept. Just to note also that the Skeena Mountains and others listed here as being in the Yukon-Tanana Uplands are not designated so in Canada, except maybe in geologic or ecologic classifications (see below). Just wondering what to do here; easy enough to redirect interior System to Intermontane Plateaus but how to indicate these usages in the table; using Interior System for the Canadian entries would tend to indicate that it was a different system from Intermontane Plateaus; maybe a common footnote to indicate both terms are the same, or a sect-hatnote at the top of the table? Once that's settled I'll populated the table further.... Skookum1 ( talk) 17:30, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
As per discussions on Western Cordillera (North America) and elsewhere, this article is OR and Synth in various ways because its mixing of elements/definitions from various fields. I just removed Fraser Plateau and Basin complex because it's a WWF ecoregion, not a landform - "Fraser Basin" doesn't mean in geography what you'd think it means (i.e. teh Fraser River watershed) and it also doesn't mean waht ecological science defines it as; the same region in geology is part of the Intermontane Belt and/or Omineca Belt (see this map of BC's geological regions/"belts". This article mixes geology in with physiography in various ways, and it's confusing important definitions; by combining definitions/history from geology with those from geography/physiography/toponymy, WP:Synthesis is what results. This is a common problem across geography/geography/ecology articles and it has to be straightened out - e.g. Arctic Cordillera should be a geographic description article with only basic geologic content; detailed geologic content would be in something perhaps titled Natural history of the Arctic Archipelago or Geology of the Arctic Archipelago, and the Ecozone zonetent there should be relegated to Arctic Archipelago Ecozone (CEC) (CEC indicating this is an Environment Canada classification, rather than a WWF one or one from another body/org). I changed all the contents, other than that one (so far) in Category:Ecozones of Canada because many had titles that made them sound like landform articles, and some were/are even written that way. In teh same Geologic provinces are not the same as landform-classification systems, they're very different (compare Cascade Volcanoes and Cascade Range for example). So between the table needing pruning/redefining and much of the body of this article needign some rewrite, and noting the merge/split proposals at the top, I have to strongly urge that the respective contents/agendas of WP:Geology, WP:Geography and WP:Ecology and WP:Environment are kept clearly separate. To even begin suggesting othewise is OR/Synth..... Skookum1 ( talk) 17:30, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
It is unclear to me how East Asia fits into this scheme...? andycjp ( talk) 11:48, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
Intermontane Plateaus, Pacific Mountain System, Rocky Mountain System are subgroupings of Western Cordillera (North America), which itself is a subgrouping of American Cordillera, which includes the Sierra Madre System and Andean Sysstem. Lots of work to add that column, I'm not in the mood tonight to expand the table that drastically, just suggesting/serving notice it needs to be done. Other than that a sixth column may be needed because Intermontane Plateaus, or rather its Canadian equivalent-term Interior System, has a many-tiered substructure, i.e. Cassiar Mountains, Skeena Mountains, [[Hazelton Mountains, Stikine Plateau are all part of the Interior Mountains; the Interior Plateau has various plateaus and mountain ranges within it; that's not including the small ranges, I'm talking huge areas.....this has to do also with teh conflicting terms/classifications between the two countries; but this article can't rightly say 'of the world" if it uses only classification-tiers and moneclature from the American system. How to resolve it well I'm not sure, I'm just fielding the problem, and the next one too.... Skookum1 ( talk) 00:36, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm on the edge of expanding the contents of the table with the various groupings, but find it problematic because the table's existing terminology is USPOV. I won't clutter the masthead by adding {{ globalize/USA}}, but am wondering about two solutions:
In the US the Rocky Mountain System includes the Columbia Mountains; if I'm not mistaken (and I may be), the Canadian system places these as part of the Interior System; I'll double-check that but it's not the only variance; the BC term "Insular System" includes the Alexander Archipelago but the US system has that as part of the Pacific Mountain System. Plays hell with the table, ultimately.
This is not in the last about the actual data here or the citations needed to establish whose take on global geology we're talking about—I can't even claim dilettante knowledge in the subject area—but the very first sentence is a frightful mess:
"The physiographic regions of the world are a means of defining the Earth's landforms into distinct regions based upon Nevin Fenneman's classic three-tiered approach of divisions, provinces and sections,[1] in 1916,[2] which although they date from the mid 1910s, are still considered basically valid, and were the basis for similar classifications of other continents later.[3]"
Various problems:
Doing an edit to clean this up. Sebum-n-soda ( talk) 16:46, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
I looked through the citations, and I couldn't find a comprehensive list for anyplace other than the U.S. Is this based on any sort of official list? It seems like it isn't. Also, large parts of the world are entirely omitted from the list (e.g. East asia, Southeast asia, Polynesia.) Unless somebody can find an official list, the article should probably be changed to reflect the lack thereof. Cghsci ( talk) 09:30, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
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