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had a look at improving it but it's difficult because the meaning is usually not clear.
It appears to be duplicated at http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Philippine+National+Railways but i don't know which came first... -- Tomheaton 16:21, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I have attempted to do a thorough tidy-up of this page. There may be some chronological errors, however, as the original was not always clear about differences between past and present, and other sources are not easy to come by. In particular: I wonder if all those different classes of passenger accommodation are still operated? Any comments, further info., etc. will be welcome, with a note to my user page. Picapica 18:59, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Philippine National Railways | |
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Overview | |
Locale | Philippines |
Transit type | railway |
Operation | |
Operator(s) | Department of Transportation and Communications |
Technical | |
System length | 1,060 kilometres |
Philippine National Railways, also known by its acronym, PNR, is a state-owned railway system in the Philippines, organized under the Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) as an attached agency. Established during the Spanish colonial period, the modern PNR was developed only in 1984. It currently operates around 1,060 kilometres of track on the island of Luzon, where most Philippine rail infrastructure is located. Because of this, PNR has become synonymous with the Philippine rail system.
A portion of the PNR network, specifically the Metro Manila portion of the network, is part of the Strong Republic Transit System (SRTS), [1] and overall public transport system in the metropolis. It forms the backbone of all of Metro Manila's regional rail services, which extend to its suburbs and to provinces such as Laguna. However, other than reducing growing traffic congestion due to the rising number of motor vehicles in Metro Manila, [2] PNR also aims to link key cities within in the Philippines efficiently, a goal since marred by the overall degradation of rail infrastructure, as well as a lack of funds to fund the network's rehabilitation. The rehabilitation of PNR, which has been touted by various administrations, seeks to not only tackle those problems, but also to spur Philippine economic growth through an efficient railway system.
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I have reviewed the article and think it is almost there. The prose, images, references in general all good. I do however have a few concerns, mainly in regards to the need for a few more references and with regards WP:NPOV on a few sentances. As such the article does not yet meet Wikipedia:What is a good article? numbers 2 and 4. A few improvements should bring the article up to GA status. These are in the history section:
Other things that I would recommend would be to improve the image captions, in particular the one relating to Vito Cruz station - Wikipedia:Captions. I would also recommend trying to improve the lead section. In particular add citations or remove the following claim if cannot be sourced - "PNR also aims to link key cities within in the Philippines efficiently, a goal since marred by the overall degradation of rail infrastructure, as well as a lack of funds to fund the network's rehabilitation." Give a reference for a.) the claim to link cities and b.) how the goal has been marred. If these things are addressed I would pass it for GA. LordHarris 23:48, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Can someone confirm the veracity of this statement (I know this might be true, but I need sources badly):
If anyone can verify this with reliable sources, that would be greatly appreciated. -- Sky Harbor 20:11, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
On the basis of the information provided by previous contributors and what is now shown on the official PNR website I've rearranged the passenger service part of the article to accurately show current services, and also to include information previously provided about future and defunct services. If anyone has additional accurate information, please add with citations. Gubernatoria ( talk) 11:32, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
This article has just has its GA status reassessed as part of the WP:SWEEPS; the article was found to have substantial problems, especially in the matter of referencing and neutrality. Given the substantial nature of these deficiencies, the article has been failed immediately as it is felt that the necessary improvements required to meet the GA criteria will not be made within a 7-day grace period. However, as there has been some (minor) activity on this article recently, and because it is listed under 2 WikiProjects, if the issues outlined in the reassessment are addressed and resolved within 7 days, then I will undertake an immediate GA review to re-list the article. The reassessment review can be found here. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any queries regarding this matter. ✽ Juniper§ Liege (TALK) 08:43, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
This article is using it's own version from years ago as a reference (ref [6]), which is of course problematic here. (See: Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks why). The source for some of the defunct services of PNR is therefore actually a unreferenced part of the article which has been scrapped after some time, when the article was growing. The article needs a good source on this, f.e. RAILWAYS of the PHILIPPINES (Public, Sugar and Industrial Locomotive Lists) - Reg Carter - Revised Aug 1999. The particular reference and information should otherwise be removed I would say, I think we shouldn't build on an old and removed part of the article. Leodb ( talk) 19:15, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
User:Sky Harbor deleted the following paragraph with the edit comment of "remove paragraph that is not appropriate for the history section". What is inappropriate about this paragraph? To me, it seems perfect for a history section on an article about the Ferrocarril de Manila-Dagupan?Manila Railroad Company/Philippine National Railways. I would argue that we should add it back in, ideally with a citation. Please comment so that we can reach WP:Consensus. Of course WP:Silence implies consent and therefore if no one objects, I will add the paragraph back in.
Apart from the Main Line North reaching San Fernando in the Ilocos province of La Union and Legaspi City in the Bicol province of Albay, MRR had branch lines headed to other areas, like San Quintin and Rosales in the province of Pangasinan, Cabanatuan City as well as San Jose in the province of Nueva Ecija, Carmen and Floridablanca as well as Arayat in Pampanga province, Montalban, Taytay, and Antipolo in Rizal province, Naic and Cavite City in Cavite province, Canlubang and Pagsanjan/Sta. Cruz in Laguna province, and Batangas City and Bauan in Batangas province. All of these abovementioned branch lines were eventually closed and abandoned.
-- Iloilo Wanderer ( talk) 09:29, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
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I am proposing to split two sections into separate articles. I think that these two sections should be kept as separate articles because it makes the article too long. I think that the PNR article must focus on the operator itself. — Hiwilms ( talk) 17:39, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
This is mostly a list, so I think this should be split into an article named List of Philippine National Railways rolling stock.
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10:47, 21 June 2021 (UTC)This is about paint schemes. This could be expanded on an article named Philippine National Railways liveries by adding more references.
I agree with this proposal; 1) the Rolling Stock page can lead to its separate articles. 2) PNR as an operator must be prioritized in the page of the same name. 3) A reader who will go to this page must not end up seeing portions that might be too cumbersome; hence while liveries are notable they must have their separate page for better organization. Pinging other users for thoughts: @ Korean Rail Fan, Truflip99, RioHondo, TagaSanPedroAko, Howard the Duck, BicolExpressHunter, and AAlejandrAwr: {{u| Koressha}} { interact| ambags} 07:54, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Well, contrary to what I mentioned above, Template:Cite AV media can be handy in this "Liveries" page. Found myself spending the whole afternoon reading about citations, hahaha. And then again, to fill the page with actual photographs, we must obtain permission in good faith from the original owners; consequently these must be used under applicable licenses in Commons. {{ping| Koressha}} { interact| ambags} 09:37, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
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The first commercial line (ferrocarril line) was opened in Bagbag, pangasinan 158.62.55.69 ( talk) 10:48, 8 January 2024 (UTC)