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Add Darbar,Annaathe,Kurup,Dabangg 3 2409:4051:9F:F399:1586:5720:6D83:9855 ( talk) 08:34, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
These were not pan India films , Vikram has been a pan India success
Amarrrrty ( talk) 09:37, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
These two ( https://www.sify.com/movies/pan-indian-telugu-movies-land-in-crisis-imagegallery-0-tollywood-vf5e8fgcedije.html and https://www.bollywoodlife.com/photos/before-pooja-hegde-and-rashmika-mandanna-sridevi-kajol-aishwarya-rai-vidya-balan-and-10-more-screen-goddesses-who-were-the-og-pan-india-actresses-view-pics-entertainment-news-1931677/1931766/) seem insightful. Though bollywoodlife is unusable, it points out the hypocrisy in the movement. I hope the content is available elsewhere. Kailash29792 (talk) 06:43, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
What can I do for you sir regarding this? Amarrrrty ( talk) 09:38, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
Since there is a constant back and forth changes in this list, I believe there should be some objective criteria for potential candidates. A couple of conditions were boldly added by an IP in this edit which I broadly agree with. Not every film dubbed (or planned to be dubbed) in various languages can be added in the list as the list would become endless and the overall significance of the entries would go down. Therefore to summarize:
Thanks and regards -- Ab207 ( talk) 07:54, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
It is 100% true 1.38.195.69 ( talk) 14:15, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
Films are being dubbed and released in multiple languages since 1960's what is the logic behind pan Indian film asa movement since 2015? If adjusted to inflation rates films previously released to baahubali had equally good box office revenue. The top grossing pan Indian films already have a article. Why do you need special article for this, and according to whom are these major figures ? Fostera12 ( talk) 14:51, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
We cant rely on independent sources alone, these are subjective and reflects authors perspectives. Fostera12 ( talk) 14:59, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
Hello Ab207, can you review the content added by the user Fostera12 on the article Pan-Indian film. Most of the content he added is not related to the article, although they are reliable. I have already replied to them on my talk page. His edits are completely chaning the perception of the article.... Jayanthkumar123 ( talk) 14:02, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
Jayanthkumar123 Tell me what exactly is your perception, so that we can discuss and come to consensus. Fostera12 ( talk) 14:16, 26 July 2022 (UTC). Hi Ab207, please intervene, and suggest the other editor to update the info which he/she disagrees. He is involved in disruptive editing. Fostera12 ( talk) 14:14, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
Why are we not including these truly pan Indian films; Roja, Bombay, Pushpaka Vimana, Indian (1996 film), Enthiran, Vishwaroopam, and Dasavathaaram. Can you discuss here with references ? We need to create seperate section in the article for these films. Fostera12 ( talk) 05:41, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
okay, will check. However, with regards to Major. It is a truly contemporary pan Indian film. It was marketed as a pan Indian film through global media houses like Sony Pictures. Major (film) had very high impact. The cast and crew appeared in all national media channels throught its marketing. Check the articles sources which explicitly mentioned pan India. This bias only i dont like while editing. If you are creating an article, we cannot be subjective. Fostera12 ( talk) 10:23, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
By the way deletion aspect of this article was not fully discussed. The published news paper articles have a number of disagreements on pan indian film criteria. Fostera12 ( talk) 11:09, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
Hi User:Kailash29792 can u explain this economic collapse and process to re-nominate this article for deletion. On the other hand, I request you to pls properly educate this amateur contributor User:Jayanthkumar123 on wikipedia policies such as disruptive editing, he is not even aware of what it means if messages are typed in caps lock, and he is bluntly reverting other users contributions without tweaking what needs to be changed, I need to improve this article through discussions with Ab207 without User:Jayanthkumar123's annoying edit summaries. Fostera12 ( talk) 11:15, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
No allegations, I am asking for discussion, before reverting peoples edits, just check your edit history in pushpaka vimana film it shows your amateurish approach towards contribution to wikipedia. Proper discussion on deletion aspect of Pan Indian film has not happened, you have not even made your views clear. You are not allowing others to make even single spell fix edit. What is your point ? Do you wish to retain this article as it is without updating information, except the list of your personal favourite films. What is so imp about DDLJ dubbed into Telugu I dont understand. Its hilarious. I was blocked because of ur edit warring and bias with one of the admins. Anyways let us assume good faith going forward. The subjective and meaningless term Pan indian film was started off by Indian media channels and papers not Telugu cinema. All films are released with subtitles over OTT this whole pan indian film phenomenon is a hoax with which directors and actors would not want to associate themselves with. There is Indian cinema, there is no such things as Pan Indian. There is hollywood and Chinese cinema there is no such thing as pan hollywood, and pan china. In which language(s) the film was shot matters thats all. If it is popular all over India depends on content, it is anyways covered in the respective film's wikipedia page. There is no point in adding same information again in this article and tagging it pan India. This is sheer non sense. Fostera12 ( talk) 13:43, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
Ofcourse I agree with you that pan india exists in media, but this statement "Pan-Indian film is a term related to Indian cinema that started off with Telugu cinema" is incorrect and sounds like some gibberrish it is not on par with the standard lead section of a wikipedia article. The lead section need to be re-written, of course it will take time for that. However, pls suggest User:Jayanthkumar123 not to blindly and recklessly revert edits of other users and forcefully retain only his edit in all the articles edited by him. Example of a lead section - "Pan Indian Cinema, or Pan Indian film is a film movement in Indian cinema that originated with Tollywood as a mainstream commercial cinema appealing to audiences across the country with a spread to world markets".
The article name should be changed to Pan Indian cinema from Pan Indian film as it is not a Genre, but a movement. This is how the article needs to developed. We are here to develop encyclopedia, not a text book with primary school standard of english. The section notable films considered to be pan Indian must be avoided altogether, this is article, not a list of filmography, instead such film's specialities must be discussed. Fostera12 ( talk) 16:15, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
Example, retrospective or early history section before 2015 starting from 1990's with Roja, and the current growth and impact section that led to actual movement since 2015. And Major 2022 film must be included among such films because it is marketed as Pan Indian film. Fostera12 ( talk) 16:12, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
I would add these four sections, Background and Early History (example mughal e azam, sholay, pushpak, salaam bombay etc); then Films with National Acclaim with sub section 1990s-2010s, (example roja, bombay, bandit queen, dil se, rangeela, ddlj, satya, lagaan, indian, enthiran etc) then Rise of Pan Indian films with sub section 2015-present. (example baahubali, drishyam, rrr, kgf) with 4-5 lines discussing the speciality of such films. The core of pan indian films is the content which became popular across all states of India. Fostera12 ( talk) 16:17, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
Dubbing section must be completely avoided, this article is not about dubbed or bilingual or multilingual films. But while we are discussing that particular film we can mention in which language it was produced and shot, along with other languages dubbed. Fostera12 ( talk) 15:46, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
Just Copy pasting from sources is not wikipedia, source will mention arbitrary popularity and box office figures so we can't take them as reliable, not all sources are appropriate, we should use that direct source and adapt it to the context of the article. Fostera12 ( talk) 16:25, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
So User talk:Jayanthkumar123, do u agree with these 5 sections; Background and History, Retrospective on films with National popularity, Role of Dubbing, Rise of Pan Indian films (the main section), and Criticism Fostera12 ( talk) 10:59, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Hi Ab207 pls confirm the following references, so that i can add Major in the list, also pls note im discussing this list with you so that we will be on same page. Next time consider assuming good faith, as it is not possible to discuss all references here every time I make an edit. As you know wikipedia doesn't work like that. Thanks
https://theprint.in/features/major-a-pan-india-film-because-of-its-emotion-adivi-sesh/949435/
Fostera12 ( talk) 15:48, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
I ask since I recently noticed the commentary I added on the pan-Indian growth of American films in India, most notably all Marvel Cinematic Universe movies starting with Black Widow, as well as Avatar: The Way of Water, had since been removed on the most recent revision of the page. Is it because they're explicitly not of Indian origin? If anything, Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse had the widest release and impact when it comes the pan-Indian phenomenon, given the various languages it got dubbed in in India alone (not just Hindi, Tamil, Telugu, Malayalam, and Kannada in addition to its original English - but also Punjabi, Gujarati, Bengali, and Marathi!).
Am I not mistaken? Don't Marvel and Avatar enjoy huge success in India? Or are Indians' views on Hollywood movies the same as Americans' views on anime? 142.188.127.34 ( talk) 22:54, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
Granted, as Kailash29792 pointed out, "pan-India" is essentially a localization business model, not much different from "EFIGS" (English, French, Italian, German, Spanish) model for video game localization. However, I've noticed various television series have been localized into all five major Indian languages as well, thanks to the efforts of Amazon Prime Video and Cartoon Network's Indian branches.
Prime offers Hindi, Kannada, Malayalam, Tamil, and Telugu dubs and subtitles for shows they stream like The Boys and Invincible. With CN now having Malayalam and Kannada channels, this also extends to American animated series like the DC Animated Universe, Ben 10 and The Amazing World of Gumball, as well as Japanese anime such as Dragon Ball, and My Hero Academia.
ETV Bal Bharat also does this for Nickelodeon animated series such as SpongeBob SquarePants and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, plus the anime Detective Conan.
Is this a considerable observation? Or should only Indian-made content be considered, like the Marvel and Disney examples I brought up earlier being rejected (which I already pointed out isn't even the case anymore as of The Marvels)? 142.188.127.34 ( talk) 16:28, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
Hello, Can someone understand why Maximalist film was added to the See Also section? It was already there in the template Genres, below, anyway. My instinct would be to remove from the See Also section but maybe I missed something. Thanks - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 23:26, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
Is there a cut-off for qualifying as pan-Indian? i.e., is a film released in just Tamil and Hindi considered pan-Indian? It sounds like most pan-Indian films are filmed in one South Indian language and then dubbed into other South Indian languages plus HIndi, is that right? Also, are the songs re-recorded as well? Llajwa ( talk) 16:53, 27 January 2024 (UTC)