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I was shocked to find out that even though the band sold 7 million records, they were still living in the Ghetto. I think that this is an appropriate footnote to correspond with their breakup with Atlantic records since this was clearly seen on MTV Cribs.

This is the real proof that even though they made all that money, they are true to what is around them. They don't forget there roots.

• post to facilitate archiving-- Jax 0677 ( talk) 15:44, 17 November 2018 (UTC) reply

A new touring member has been part of the band since 2016, although he not added his credits since working with Sonny Sandoval and last played with them back in November of 2021. In addition, the Anniversary Tour of Satellite took place in 2021 starting in August, although a moderator and several other individuals doubt the legitimacy of the tour actually taking place, due to a lack of photographic and video evidence as well as the pandemic restrictions throughout the country, with only a schedule existing (this also applies to the touring member as well). I cannot add the information myself because of the conflict of interest clause, as I know the touring member personally but I do have the photos of the tour and pictures of the touring member with the core members of P.O.D. Could someone pick this up? Thoughts? GoldSrc98 ( talk) 01:07, 22 February 2022 (UTC) reply

1) Generally called touring musicians, and 2) a source would be needed; not photos. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 06:03, 22 February 2022 (UTC) reply

I've got a video source here of P.O.D from 2017 in Palm Springs of the keyboard touring member, Adrian Cisneros, playing in place of Sameer Bhattacharya who hurt his ribs in an accident which you can refer to timestamp range 0:00 - 0:41 ^[1]. Please also refer to timestamp 8:02 of him playing Youth of a Nation in full camera view. He still acts a touring member currently as of 2022. GoldSrc98 ( talk) 02:50, 5 March 2022 (UTC) reply

Must be a private video. It shows nothing different videos each time I load it. And again, stop calling touring musicians "members". Walter Görlitz ( talk) 04:51, 5 March 2022 (UTC) reply

Please expand your definition on private video and what you need, because that would mean no one would be able to publicly access it to check for validity. Also, please clarify on the video not showing anything different when you load it. I'm using the word "member" loosely as a general term of speech, not as fact for the touring musician as a member. I need specifics on what guidelines you need as a source, as so far every attempt has been denied. GoldSrc98 ( talk) 06:13, 5 March 2022 (UTC) reply

I clicked on the link multiple times. Each time it presented a different video. Not one video was a concert. So this time, the first video was from "5 Minute Crafts Men" and was "Top repair hacks that work extremely well". On a lark, I opened it in a private window and I saw the video. So it appears that people who are logged in to Facebook may not have access to the video. It states that "AK" was "helping them out". Nothing about membership and I suggest you do not use words loosely.

As for specifics, you were given a help template on your talk page. Did you bother to click through to any of the links that were there? The first links to Help:Introduction and on that page there is a link to referencing: Help:Introduction to referencing with Wiki Markup/1 and the first item is about verifiability. The second link (assuming you're working down the left column) is to the Wikipedia:Five pillars and the second item there discusses verifiability. The third link from the help also links to Help:Introduction.

Ultimately, you would find your way to WP:RS and it discusses, WP:PRIMARY and WP:SECONDARY sources. The latter are always preferred.

So now, back to what you're complaining about, my removal of edit where you add that this person played with them, on tour, from March 2016 through July 2017 and again from January 2018 through November 2021. Is that all supported in that video? Can that video support that he played with them on March 5, 2017? Maybe.

Now, let's assume an editor who knows nothing about this band comes along and looks at the potential reference. How are they to know what band is playing?

What would be better is an interview with the band by some reliable music sources (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources and Wikipedia:WikiProject Christian music/Sources) where they mention how long Adrian Cisneros was touring with the band. That would be a reliable source. Adding content with a {{ Citation needed}} template is a sure way to get it removed though. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 07:17, 5 March 2022 (UTC) reply

Occasionally in their songs P.O.D. refers to God as "Ja," which is the god in Rastafarian religion. However, no mention is made of this in the article and no explanation given of it. P.O.D. is referred to as a Christian band throughout the article. Rastafarianism is different from Christianity, so an explanation as to why they sing about Ja in their music would be fitting for an article about the band. Spiritquest ( talk) 05:55, 29 May 2023 (UTC) reply