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    Requested move 10 February 2024

    The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

    The result of the move request was: Moved - One !vote for, one !vote neutral-but-leaning-move, and one !vote against. No new !votes cast for over a week so no point doing a re-list.

    That leaves us looking at the arguments made. MountainDew20 cited WP:COMMONNAME and Google trends analysis comparing the present title and the proposed one, which is perfectly sound base for a proposed move when done properly. PARAKANYAA didn't cite any evidence or arguments - so it is hard to give what they said much weight - but did say they thought "Pulse" was more common.

    ianmacm cited WP:TITLE and WP:GOOGLE, but did not state the relevance of these to the argument they were making beyond "Orlando" being more precise. We therefore have to read these to see what weight their argument should be given.

    WP:GOOGLE literally tells us that "Google Trends can allow you to find which rendering of a word or name is most searched for", giving "tidal wave vs. Tsunami" as an example. It is therefore not obvious why you wouldn't do this to find out the more commonly used name.

    Regarding the point about precision under WP:TITLE, WP:CRITERIA, which is part of WP:TITLE, could be interpreted so as to point to the shorter title, which in this case is "Pulse". PARAKANYAA also cast doubt on whether "Orlando" really was more precise than "Pulse". Therefore this point seems a wash.

    As such, whilst numerically the result pointed to no consensus, weighting the arguments according to our policies and guidelines gives a consensus to move. ( non-admin closure) FOARP ( talk) 09:30, 19 February 2024 (UTC) reply


    Orlando nightclub shootingPulse nightclub shootingWP:COMMONNAME. On Google Trends, for example, when comparing the search terms “Pulse nightclub shooting” and “Orlando nightclub shooting”, the former has historically been used at a significantly higher rate than the latter, at points being used ten times as much. MountainDew20 ( talk) 05:58, 10 February 2024 (UTC) reply

    • Oppose: WP:TITLE is the policy here, not what Google says, which can be misleading. Please don't base move requests on using WP:GOOGLE as the argument. The current title is ok.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 08:13, 10 February 2024 (UTC) reply
      I don't think there's a dire need to change the title but I do think the Pulse title is substantially more common and I don't see a reason not to use it. Also personally I marginally prefer it. PARAKANYAA ( talk) 15:20, 12 February 2024 (UTC) reply
    "Pulse nightclub shooting" is ok, but I still think that "Orlando nightclub shooting" is closer to WP:TITLE guidelines because it is more specific.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 20:21, 13 February 2024 (UTC) reply
    Are there a lot of Pulse nightclubs? There's a lot of nightclubs in Orlando. If anything I'd think it'd be the other way around. But yeah I have no complaint with either title PARAKANYAA ( talk) 13:38, 18 February 2024 (UTC) reply
    The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.