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Is that even an issue? Its a example of the system maps shown at stations and on trains, which don't stress geographical placing.
Transportfan70 (
talk) 17:25, 9 December 2022 (UTC)reply
I agree with
User:Transportfan70, that a geographic map isn't an issue. I don't think it adds much, as im a city like Toronto with a strong grid system, a geographical version of the map doesn't add much, as it's relatively similar, other than the extended distances out in the suburbs, which only make it more difficult to read.
The map looks great! However the text box for the map says "as it will appear on system maps". This map shows Line 5 as two different thicknesses, based surface vs grade-separated sections. But that's not how it will appear on the system maps. Also it's confusing, as I've only ever seen TTC use a mixture of lines to show existing versus proposed sections of lines (such as on Line 4 extension to Sheppard East on the Future Subway map they released in July 2022).
I find the use of the two thicknesses may confuse people, as I think most people's first reaction to that, would be that one part isn't finished yet - rather than the presence of non-grade separated crossings. Can I suggest editing the map so that Line 5 is all of the same width - your thoughts
User:Transportfan70.
Nfitz (
talk) 02:09, 17 December 2022 (UTC)reply
I could always add "approximately" to as it will appear on system maps to clarify. After all, the system maps are also black (which I was discouraged from using for appearance reasons).
Transportfan70 (
talk) 02:26, 17 December 2022 (UTC)reply
TTC uses white system maps as well. My main point is the thin line is confusing and misleading. We should use a constant thickness. I've not seen a reliable primary or secondary show line thickness for Line 5 based on design - only on construction status. Wouldn't doing so violate
WP:NOR?
Nfitz (
talk) 02:59, 17 December 2022 (UTC)reply
I can just refer to the map as a "schematic" and specify what the thin lines represent. After all the map is only meant to be temporary until the line opens (and it took a lot of work to make!).
Transportfan70 (
talk) 15:46, 19 December 2022 (UTC)reply
Oh, I notice somebody already did that!
Transportfan70 (
talk) 15:49, 19 December 2022 (UTC)reply
The map looks great
User:Transportfan70, and is a great addition to the page! I'm just suggesting a relatively minor edit.
Nfitz (
talk) 03:50, 20 December 2022 (UTC)reply
That source doesn't feel definitive to me, it could just be a placeholder. The TTC has been using a blue "3" in their planning documents for instance (
page 13). I'm strongly in favour of not using a route icon for this line until there is more clarity.
BLAIXX 00:54, 21 November 2023 (UTC)reply
I agree because it's really hard to find that icon as it hides inside a very large document (althrough shown many times but it's too small compared to the pages' scale). After all, this document is still under discussion so it may be inappropriate to use such controversial document as a source.--—and in that light,
Fz20181223find deliverance.— 23:11, 30 November 2023 (UTC)reply
I agree that the source does not look definitive, and it's best to stick with just using "Line 3" until closer to the time / confirmation that the line will be colour x, y or z on a transit map. (Also, it seems unlikely to me that Metrolinx would actually choose a colour very similar to the Sheppard colour... but transit agencies have done silly branding things before, and they'll do it again!)
Turini2 (
talk) 21:04, 17 December 2023 (UTC)reply
I think it should be included as it has been in multiple future TTC network maps as it was in the now deprecated ref 20.
Yeah no... that one is in the original Line 3 blue. The only reference to the 3 roundel in purple is buried deep as a placeholder in technical documents. —
Joeyconnick (
talk) 18:55, 17 December 2023 (UTC)reply
I think it's fair to say that the Ontario Line has been provisionally referred to as Line 3 however it's inappropriate to use any icon at this time.
BLAIXX 21:28, 17 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Did you look at what I linked?
Millsy0303 (
talk) 00:24, 18 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Is it too early to create station articles or can I have a crack at them?
TokyoBackstreet (
talk) 19:51, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Too early I think. There's not much more you could say that's not already in this article. Opening day is at least 6 years away... !
Turini2 (
talk) 21:54, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Line 5 had station articles for a long time at this point. (Of course that project is way over schedule but still.)
TokyoBackstreet (
talk) 19:37, 30 March 2024 (UTC)reply