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The history section currently states: "In fact, obtaining a licence to build even a modern refinery with minimal impact on the environment (other than CO2 emmissions) is so difficult and costly that no new refineries have been built in the United States since 1976. As a result, the US is becoming more and more dependent on the imports of finished gasoline, as opposed to incremental crude oil."
However, there's been some pretty mainstream work suggesting that collusion between oil companies rather than restrictive environmental regulations has been the major cause of the lack of recent refinery investment. In any event, it seems unreasonable to blame environmental laws for the US dependence on imported gasoline without something more to back it up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DashingDan@gmail.com ( talk • contribs) 13 July 2006 (UTC)
This should probably be at Petroleum refinery since oil has more meanings than just petroleum. Also vegetable oils are refined too, so oil refining has more meanings than this article suggests. If the article is at oil refinery it would have to cover both, which is awkward. Any thoughts? - Taxman Talk 13:04, August 16, 2005 (UTC)
The crude oil distillation image is good but the temperature data on it is incorrect (or misleading). The temperatures shown are the approximate boiling points of the HEAVIEST component of that fraction, not the temperature of the chamber or the liquid collected. Temperatures shown SHOULD be the BP of the LIGHTEST component of the fraction. As the lighter components "boil", small amounts of heavier components are carried with the lighter components even though the temperature is not close to the heavier component's boiling point (like water evaporating at 25ºC). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.240.151.121 ( talk • contribs) 21 October 2005 (UTC)
When I see an oil refinery, I often see a large orange flame coming from the top of a tall tower. What is this for? What is it called? Why isn't that flame used for something useful like heating or driving a turbine? ― BenFrantzDale 03:41, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi to all, I'm looking for someone who works in Oil Industry and ready to share how they work - particularly how they plan and schedule the production, whether with SAP, module PP_PI or with PIMs, or Excel and the most important question are they satisfied. I'll very appreciate any help, Thanks in advance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.90.237.2 ( talk • contribs) 30 April 2006 (UTC)
This Good Article nomination is on hold for 7 days for the following reasons: Expand lead, see WP:LEAD, and there are too many short, stubby paragraphs and bullets. Rlevse 15:18, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
The largest refinery in the world is located in Paraguana, Venezuela. Is called CRP (Complejo refinador paraguaná) and is conformed by two deep conversion refinerys. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.11.242.49 ( talk • contribs) 16 August 2006 (UTC)
i rally want to know what is the most accurate theory that explains the origin of petroleum is it the biogenic one or the abiogenic one thnx —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lv4ever888h ( talk • contribs) 07:13, 5 November 2006
I'm just wondering if the typical reader knows where Garyville, LA is. I was going to just change the article to read (Marathon Oil's refinery in) Garyville, LA" instead of "Garyville", but thought I would ask for some feedback first. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rrrich7 ( talk • contribs) 17 November 2006 (UTC)
I worked at a small refinery called Pralca in Santa Maria, Venezuela last August for the catalyst changeout as a US Contractor. Does PDVISA own/operate all refineries large and small in Venezuela? I mean I know that PDVISA is the the Governmental Petroleum Division for the Venezuelan Government and regulate all oil/refinery products and such. My question I guess is why don't they have the equipment and training needed to do specialty work like Catalyst changeouts in their refineries... We watched 5 sets of 2 man teams, work with a wrench and a hammer for 2 days try to open the bottom heads of the two Ethyline Oxide Reactors we were to unload/load. All they needed was an impact wrench and sockets and the job would have been done in about 6 hours.. Why do they import American Contractors? Or do they just prefer it that way, as Americans are specailly trained and do the job quicker? Just curious . user:kittykat1001 11:56, 17 March 2007 {Contractor}
Why do they have all the lights ? Is it safety?? Security?? 8.8.9.61 21:30, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Interestingly the University of Warsaw credits Ignacy Łukasiewicz with building the first oil refinery also in 1856. The confusion came from the fact that it was called an oil distillery and not a refinery. In addition the refinery burned down soon after and was not rebuilt until several years later. Lukasiewicz was already refining oil from his oil wells two years before and built a commercial oil refinery in 1856. JRWalko 01:42, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
208.107.125.70 ( talk) 21:14, 6 December 2012 (UTC)re: First Crude Distilling/Refining== see>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Kier
From the page...Salt wells and oil
By the 1840s, Kier's salt wells were becoming fouled with petroleum. At first, Kier simply dumped the useless oil into the nearby Pennsylvania Main Line Canal, but after an oil slick caught fire, he saw a way to profit from this otherwise worthless byproduct. With no formal training in science or chemistry, he began experimenting with several distillates of the crude oil along with a chemist from eastern Pennsylvania. He developed a substance he named "Rock Oil" and later "Seneca Oil". In 1848, he began packaging the substance as a patent medicine charging $0.50 per bottle.[3] He also produced petroleum butter (petroleum jelly) and sold it as a topical ointment.[4] Neither product proved to be a commercial success.
After further experimenting, he discovered an economical way to produce kerosene. Kerosene had been known for some time but was not widely produced and was considered to have little economic value. But at the time whale oil, the principal fuel for lamps in America, was becoming increasingly scarce and expensive.
Kier began selling the kerosene, named "Carbon Oil", to local miners in 1851. He also invented a new lamp to burn his product.[1] Kier never obtained a patent for his developments and many other inventors and businessmen would go on to improve upon his work yielding huge fortunes. Even so, Kier's income at the time exceeded US$40,000 per year, a huge sum for the time.
Kier established America's first oil refinery in Pittsburgh on Seventh avenue near Grant Street, in 1853.[1] A marker identifying the site read's "Kier Refinery – Using a five-barrel still, Samuel M. Kier erected on this site about 1854 the first commercial refinery to produce illuminating oil from petroleum. He used crude oil from salt wells at Tarentum."[5] Kier consulted with Edwin Drake concerning Drake's experimental oil well[6] and the first shipment of oil from Drake's well went to Kier's refinery.[citation needed]
It's not even the largest in the USA - I've updated that paragraph. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Commutator ( talk • contribs) 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Hello! I added some info about groups of products to the Major products section since these terms are used sometimes (maybe they shouldnt), for example in
Brent Crude article. If needed i can provide source information.
Arinnian 10:28, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
I made some changes there. I think it looks better now. I think that vacuum residuum isn't actually a distillate right? And also I wanted to ask - are wiktionary links considered external? Arinnian 04:46, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
It would be nice to have a section on how refineries affect the stock market.
My particular questions of interest are: Why does more refinery activity reduce the price of oil per barrel? Is that a short term affect on price which mean in the long term it actually causes the oil price to go up?
There are three items under the title "Common process units..." that ought to be classed under a different title, say under "Ancillary units" as they are not really processing anything:
I propose to put these under a new title unless somebody strongly objects. LouisBB 23:20, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
SMALL REFENIREY FOR CAPACITY 500 TOMM IN DAY FOR KURDISTAN IRAQ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.90.19.222 ( talk) 10:04, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
This is probably a silly question, but do any refineries operate "factory outlet" gas stations where you could buy gas at a discount because it wouldn't have to be sent out by pipeline? Wnt ( talk) 18:24, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Recently, both Libya and Saudi Arabia have stated that the oil market is "over-supplied". In Saudi Arabia's case, I am not aware of any track record of major dishonesty. With the oil price on the Nymex futures market at $140, this seems strange. I am therefore theorising that the extra oil they can supply is too heavy and sour for currently spare refining capacity. Is this a good theory? If so, then how long will it take to create the capability to refine lower-quality crude? New Thought ( talk) 07:28, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I'm financial internal auditor and wish to learn what are the high Risk areas, critical processes and internal controls to be considered from FINANCIAL perspective. Generally we break down entire process into detailed steps and identify what risks could arise in these processes, thereafter, we devise mitigation plan to plug those loopholes. I'll appreciate if anyone could recommend good books/ websites, study material. Any guidance is welcome. irshadfca@gmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.227.59.208 ( talk) 10:42, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
please guide me about some good reading material to understand entire petroleum business specially what are stakes of finance professional to understand about upstream through downstream petroleum business irshadfca@gmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.227.59.208 ( talk) 10:55, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I undid the removal of this article from the chemical engineering category.-- Work permit ( talk) 05:34, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Just found an interesting mention in another website that the worlds first oil refinery was built in my home town of Bathgate, West Lothian, Scotland in 1848 (see http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/bathgate/bathgate/index.html). Mentions of this can be found in Wiki on the James Young page, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Young_(Scottish_chemist), this says that the works were completed in 1851 although the business started in 1848.
I'm going to do some more research and see if I can get some more hard links before I attempt any editing of a page. I've never done this before. Some assistance would be appreciated.
86.131.158.53 ( talk) 02:48, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
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Oil refinery doesn't discuss the amount of energy needed to accomplish the refining process. This would be valuable. From what little I know, the cheapest products are often burned to provide heat for some of the processes. It might be valuable to provide the amount of energy used rather than trying to estimate a variable cost component of the process.
Donald P. Martin 19:55, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
I removed the following content on Standard Oil added by HISTMichelleS253 ( talk · contribs) in accordance with WP:UNDUE and {{ Globalize/USA}}. A brief summary may be appropriate for this article along with content on other countries and oil companies. However, I think this content is better suited for Standard Oil of Ohio and closely related articles. Wikipedia:Manual of Style (summary style) may provide relevant guidance, also. Walter Siegmund (talk) 01:01, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
In 1879, an American oil refining business called, Rockefeller, Andrews and Flagler, was abolished and replaced with a newer, more successful company: Standard Oil. [1] Standard Oil had the same principle owners that Rockefeller, Andrews and Flagler had, give or take a few business associates: one of which being John D. Rockefeller's brother, William. [2] Standard Oil monopolized quickly and took America by storm. [3] Although John D Rockefeller's name was, and still is more commonly known, it is said that, Henry Morrison Flagler, also known as the "Builder of Florida," was the brain behind the booming oil refining business. According Edwin Lefevre in, “Flager and Florida,” from Everybody’s Magazine, XXII (February, 1910) p. 183, “When John D. Rockefeller was asked if the Standard Oil company was the result of his thinking, he answered, “No, sir. I wish I had the brains to think of it. It was Henry M. Flagler.” [4]
Henry Flagler dabbled in various businesses aside from building up infrastructure in Florida. When he envisioned successes in the oil industry, he and Rockefeller started building their fortune in refining oil in Cleveland, Ohio. Cleveland became very well-known for oil refining, as, "More and more crude oil was shipped from the oil regions to Cleveland for the refining process because of transportation facilites and the aggressiveness of the refiners there. It was due largely to the efforts of Henry M. Flagler and John D. Rockefeller." [5] Flagler and Rockefeller worked hard for their company to achieve such prominence. Henry explained: “We worked night and day, making good oil as cheaply as possible and selling it for all we could get.” [6] Not only did Flagler and Rockefeller's Standard Oil company become well known in Ohio, they expanded to other states, as well as gained additional capital in purchasing smaller oil refining companies across the nation. [7] According to Allan Nevins in, John D Rockefeller, (p 292), “Standard Oil was born as a big enterprise, it had cut its teeth as a partnership and was now ready to plunge forward into a period of greater expansion and development. It soon was doing one tenth of all the petroleum business in the United States. Besides its two refineries and a barrel plant in Cleveland, it possessed a fleet of tank cars and warehouses in the oil regions as well as warehouses and tanks in New York.” [8]
By 1892, Standard Oil had a monopoly over all oil refineries in the United States. In an overall calculation of America's oil refineries' assets and capital, Standard Oil surpassed all. [9] Standard Oil's combined assets equalled approximately $42,882,650.00 (U.S) from: Indiana, Kentucky, New Jersey, New York and Ohio. As well as the highest capitalization, totaling $26,000,000 (U.S). [10] The history of American oil refining begins with Henry Morrison Flagler, and his business associate and friend, John D. Rockefeller, as they built the biggest, most prosperous and monopolizing oil empire of their time: Standard Oil.
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James Young did build a refinery (in 1851, not 1951) to produce illuminating oil, but one that used not petroleum, but cannel coal, a variety of oil shale. Since it did not refine petroleum does it belong here? Plazak ( talk) 19:11, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
The Garco Energy refinery was not a new refinery built in 2008:
For those reasons, I have removed the sentence added by 198.183.141.65. mbeychok ( talk) 00:10, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
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