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I realize that the additions that I made on the origins of "The Grace" are a bit extensive and are not entirely relevant to an article about "Northern Tier High Adventure Bases," but inasmuch as the original accreditation for "The Grace" was incorrect I felt that it was necessary, at least initially, to include the entire story of the "who, what, when, where, and why" of "The Grace". It also forced me to begin the "Notes" at the bottom to include all the references that I have to back up my claims. Claims, by the way, that were verified by 1) Minor Huffman, the first Gen. Mgr. at Philmont, and longtime Scout Exec. in Eastern New Mexico; 2) Clarence Dunn, the first Director of Rangers at Philmont; and 3) Faust Nobles, who also wrote a bit of Philmont verse. All this is substantiated and verified in Minor Huffman's book, which is annotated in the "Notes" section. PGNormand 02:25, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
The text of this section is backed up by the notes. It does seem to be much the same as Wilderness Grace though; and that seems to be a pretty good article in itself. I would suggest moving all of the text and references of the grace to that article and referencing it from here. -- Gadget850 ( Ed) 11:23, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
That typical day thing seems completely unencyclopedic and unnecessary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.42.222.149 ( talk) 19:35, 9 December 2011 (UTC) Not sure why it's unnecessary, it serves to make a more comprehensive overview of the actual "nuts and bolts" of this particular excursion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.212.106.154 ( talk) 14:30, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
Better info on these are available form these two resources:
Mythic Glyph ( talk) 04:56, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
Mythic Glyph ( talk) 04:53, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
Going from memory, it also had the name Region 10 Canoe Base, prior to the Sommners name becoming prominent. I think that circa the late 1960's it had that name. North8000 ( talk) 11:50, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
Name was Region 10 until 1942, when the permanent location was named after Region Chairman Charles L. Sommers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.97.129.146 ( talk) 22:27, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
Looks like this http://www.bullmoosepatrol.com/bmp/2017/6/19/vintage-boy-scout-canoe-base-guides-charles-l-sommers-northern-wisconsin-canoe-base says it was Region 10 in 1950. North8000 ( talk) 23:10, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
And 1963: https://www.ebay.com/itm/BOY-SCOUT-NORTH-BERGEN-COUNCTY-CNCL-1963-REGION-10-CANOE-BASE-TREK-CONTING-N-C-/332512348382 North8000 ( talk) 23:11, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
The name changed to Charles L. Sommers Wilderness Canoe Base in 1942 with the opening of the permanent facility (moving from Winton). The program was under the administration of Region 10, thus there are continued references in later material. Here's the dedication booklet from 1942: https://holry.org/resources/website/history/library/dedicationbooklet.pdf
@ MnHstry: You should have taken it to talk instead of reverting again. And more directly addressing the sourcing concern before doing so. My concern is two fold, one is of changing it to an unsourced statement about the other two facilities. And related to that is it might be wrong regarding the other two facilities. How sure are you that it describes the programs of the other two locations and can you be more specific on how a source says that? Like what which source says it and the page #. Sincerely, North8000 ( talk) 13:13, 12 June 2023 (UTC)