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Definitely not a "stub," I believe it means at least the B quality, and is at the upper end of that range. NorCalHistory 05:53, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Do things like "Popularly, though, "Northern California" usually refers to the state's northernmost 48 counties." need in-line citations and if so does anyone have them? -- Squishes ( talk • contribs) 17:29, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
No. CA starts at Carmel city, 36 degrees 30 minutes N. Not at 35 degrees. Where is the reference for that? This is arbitrary, all the years I lived in CA I never heard of it. Politically sure you would have to include all of Monterey County and west. A straight line. Not physically, try it. I'm sure So Californians would not like this distinction blurred, either. At least Wiki does not loop No. CA around the Central Valley or try to include Santa Barbara as the central coast.
Who deleted my post? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.129.164.98 ( talk) 22:21, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
@ Brycehughes: I was essentially reverting the previous edit, in which “The Northstate” was completely removed. Since there is a long-standing redirect ( Northstate), and since that is what I’ve heard myself (I know, that doesn’t really count), I reinstated it without the definite article. I’m not sure where I would look for a source — my access is limited. — Gorthian ( talk) 21:34, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
California extends 10 degrees in latitude, from San Ysidro in the south at 32 degrees north latitude to the Oregon border, which is at 42 degrees north latitude. The midpoint should be 37 degrees, not 39 degrees because the average of 32 and 42 is 37. Also, San Francisco is 37 degrees north latitude. Goodell ( talk) 05:55, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
When did Central California become part of Northern California? Central California has it's on page just as Southern California does. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gibsontune ( talk • contribs) 17:27, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
Yes, it’s inaccurate to say that all of Central California is part of Northern California—it isn’t. There is some overlap between these two regions, especially near Merced, Stanislaus and San Benito counties, but it’s fuzzy at best, and that’s part of the challenge of determining the boundaries of regions like these in Wikipedia. To say that Central California is a subregion of Northern California would therefore imply that cities like Bakersfield, Santa Maria and San Luis Obispo (which match the Central California definition to varying degrees) are in Northern California, which is factually inaccurate. Pf1127 ( talk) 07:30, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
I hate to break it to you all, but NorCal is everything from Sacramento and North. The whole landscape changes, there are no major cities, and the culture changes. We don't want to have the bay area idiots lumped into our great part of the state, thanks. 2601:200:4400:74B0:980B:F470:82FF:2033 ( talk) 19:48, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
There's no cite for the claim that Popularly, though, "Northern California" usually refers to the state's northernmost 48 counties.
And it's pretty implausible. Tulare, Kings, Inyo, Fresno counties? I don't think those are "popularly" taken to be NorCal. They're Central or Eastern California, not Northern. (The Bay Area is a separate discussion — it's true that it's very distinct from the far north of the state, but on the other hand it's what a lot of people specifically mean when they say Northern California. Sacramento, or at least its burbs, feel more like Central California than either definition of Northern despite the high latitude, but again we can save that for later.)
We shouldn't be promulgating this uncited and I think inaccurate claim about the "popular" meaning. -- Trovatore ( talk) 19:28, 30 December 2023 (UTC) My personal boundaries would be something like "draw a line from Big Sur to Mono Lake and take everything north of that line, but then cut out the Central Valley south of Sacramento". I'm not proposing that should go in the article, but I do think it's more plausible than what's there currently. -- Trovatore ( talk) 22:29, 30 December 2023 (UTC)