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On 8 March 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Norfolk Southern. The result of the discussion was not moved.

While I can understand that we should include information about CNTP here, there is no reason not to have a separate CNTP article as well. I think of it like other railroad articles that have fully operating subsidiaries (such as the two articles for Kansas City Southern Railway and Grupo Transportación Ferroviaria Mexicana, or Canadian Pacific Railway and Soo Line). slambo 01:29, July 14, 2005 (UTC)

I've invited the user who has been making the controversial edits to join the discussion here by placing a note on his talk page. slambo 10:58, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

After reading this, it seems less likely that we'll get an intelligent discussion on this topic from the user. slambo 17:45, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

I should have a map up on Monday. Kmusser 15:26, 13 August 2006 (UTC) reply

Done Kmusser 16:37, 14 August 2006 (UTC) reply

Just thinking that some of these yards aren't really "major". For example, Calumet Yard, IL does mostly local work in the Chicago area - NS does the majority of its classification at Elkhart, IN for the Chicago area. Also, there's Bluefield and Williamson - while these are major, they deal mainly with unit coal trains, not "classification" of normal trains. Maybe rework this list? Danny252 ( talk) 15:14, 27 June 2008 (UTC) reply

Don't see why this is controversial. The accident happened. The results happened. NS is being taken to court. No presumption either way. Anon-liberal ( talk) 20:15, 29 June 2008 (UTC) reply

Odd, but no one else bothered to read the articles and compare against the text added in the topic. The links are dead now anyway - perhaps someone will repair both links and content. Tedickey ( talk) 11:47, 8 October 2008 (UTC) reply

Interestingly, Federal " common carrier" law requires railroads to transport toxic materials. In a letter from Norfolk Southern (NS) Corporation Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer C.W. Moorman to Mr. Brent Blackwelder, President, Friends of the Earth, Moorman states (regarding Toxic Inhalation Hazard chemicals) "Norfolk Southern neither manufactures them nor transports them for its own use. Moreover, Norfolk Southern does not make enough money transporting these commodities to justify the risks the federal government requires us to take." See "Hazardous Materials Shipping" section of this NS web page. Furthermore, the NTSB investigation of this accident concluded that "the crewmembers were rushing to complete their work and secure their train before reaching their (federally mandated) hours-of-service limits". It is interesting that the Federal government (ICC) forced NS to transport the material, the unintended consequences of safety inspired "hours-of-service limits" were identified by the Federal government (NTSB) as a contributing factor to the accident, and then a then a third branch of the Federal government (EPA) chose to sue NS for the accident it caused both directly (by forcing railroads to haul toxic materials at a net loss) and indirectly (by causing rail workers to hurry to avoid breaking the work limit laws). While it's unclear what the outcome of the EPA suit was at the time of this writing, the EPA seemed to conclude that workers hurrying to beat the clock set by Federal law need even more rules. The most controversial aspect of this article is that "Anon-liberal" and other supporters of government sprawl refuse to recognize that over-regulation can be every-bit as fatal as under-regulation - as illustrated in this case. Marknoble ( talk) 08:13, 14 August 2009 (UTC) reply

Someone keeps adding "RBMN" to the list of NS reporting marks. RBMN is the reporting mark for the Reading & Northern Railroad, and per their web site, they are not and have never been part of NS.

— BMRR ( talk) 15:36, 12 September 2008 (UTC) reply

i am apologizing. I have been the one adding rbmn. i miss read what the reporting marks are. rbmn does interchange with ns, but is not part of ns. i think there should be a section where you could put stuff like that. Railroads that connect with the railroad, but are not apart of it in anyway. it does connect with ns and it says so right here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reading_Blue_Mountain_and_Northern_Railroad

and here

http://www.rbmnrr.com/map.shtml in the legend on the map.

I do apologize about this mistake.

bkopicz3 member wiki

Well, the Reading_Blue_Mountain_and_Northern_Railroad topic does indicate that it connects to N/S - but keeping in mind that N/S is a much larger railroad, there's going to be a comparably large list of small railroads that it connects with - probably not worth cluttering up the N/S topic with. Tedickey ( talk) 23:36, 28 September 2008 (UTC) reply

What about creating a link to another page that contains the list of connecting railroads. This list is for the railfans, so they can expect what other train companies they can see on the main-line along with NS.

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Is there a list? (All I noticed in a quick check were the templates for class-I and class-III railroads which cover many more railroads). Tedickey ( talk) 10:29, 29 September 2008 (UTC) reply

Well there is a list, but that is the Class I and Class II list. I think that it should be like: NS Connecting railroads and list them Then CSX connecting railroads and list them

ETC. What does everyone think. This would be to inform people of what they may see on the line along with Norfolk Southern(and other railroads)

bkopicz3 member wiki —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bkopicz3 ( talk • contribs) 20:52, 3 October 2008 (UTC) reply

First off I would like to say that i changed one thing on the page. The Yard Count was 26, but 27 yards are listed. So i changed the number.

Secondly, I really do think that Reading Pa should be up there for a yard. Reading does indeed have a norfolk southern yard, and it should be counted.

Do not believe me that reading has a yard? Follow these directions for the proof.

1)go to maps.live.com

2) type in the "LIVE SEARCH MAPS" bar 930 Pike St, Reading, PA

3)following those directions exactly should bring the reading yard into the screen.

Thank You and have a nice night:)

one additional note: you must be in "birds eye view" or "Aerial" mode to see it

-- Kopicz ( talk) 01:28, 8 October 2008 (UTC) reply

Pictures can be out of date - I'd look for something mentions the current status of the yard. This for instance doesn't tell me that it's currently in use. Tedickey ( talk) 13:05, 7 October 2008 (UTC) reply

That is the former reading railroad station. It had a fire in the 1980s and they cleared it and are building an outlet type area, and this is several (8+) miles east of the location i said about. I am with-in miles from this. I know for a fact that the yard is still used. But i am not sure if it classifies as a major yard. It has many rails and it splits off into 5 or 6 different directions. It also has a turn table. It does not however have a engine storage shed. That picture is current, as that it is less then 6 months old. It is on the Norfolk Southern Reading-Harrisburg Main Line. The former picture on the site I provided was only black-white and could not make anything out.

I will look for proof that it is the norfolk southern reading yard and post it on here as soon as possible. If a new picture will help i will post that then, but i must warn you that my photography really sucks.

-- Kopicz ( talk) 01:28, 8 October 2008 (UTC) reply

OK the following is cut right from http://www.frograil.com/railroad/pa.htm#READINGINTRODUCTION

This is the location where the belt line joins the line from the city of Reading (often called the High Line) and heads west to Harrisburg. Over 40 trains a day make their way through Wyomissing. Almost all of the action here is NS (ex-CR), with an occasional Lancaster and Northern making its way from Sinking Spring to Reading Yard and return. CP Rail may gain trackage rights from Harrisburg to Reading because of the purchase of Conrail by NS, but we'll have to wait and see how that shakes out. By the way, CP = "Controlled Point." This is an electronic "tower."

This was written 1999. But it is still in use. I see it just about everyday as that it is right across from where i work.

The True name to this is Spring Street Yard, But this is in Reading Pa. The one that i say about in the link i first posted.

here is another link which proves that there is a reading yard aka spring street yard http://www.railfanreading.com/Oley.htm

Which mean i will be adding this to the list. And this is why. Thank You -- Kopicz ( talk) 01:29, 8 October 2008 (UTC) reply

Picture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:NS_8921_GE_C40-9W.jpg says it is from Wyomissing Pa. This is not so. I know for a fact that it is not from Wyomissing Pa.

I am from Wyomissing Pa(AREA). -- Kopicz ( talk) 03:41, 14 October 2008 (UTC) reply

Well... I got the description from your last edit. Go ahead and make it better. Tedickey ( talk) 10:41, 14 October 2008 (UTC) reply

This is what I was looking at. Tedickey ( talk) 10:41, 14 October 2008 (UTC) reply

OK...Is it really Wyomissing? I am sorry, but it does not quite look like it...But I may be wrong... I am sorry.... LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT -- Kopicz ( talk) 21:38, 17 October 2008 (UTC) made a mistake.... -- Kopicz ( talk) 21:38, 17 October 2008 (UTC) reply

I am shocked that the NS 999 is not mentioned anywhere in the article. I am not adding it myself cause when ever i add something, i get a comment back that it was not wiki-fied or to the editors standards. References are http://www.nscorp.com/nscportal/nscorp/Media/News%20Releases/2009/batteries.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.111.207.34 ( talk) 01:31, 17 February 2010 (UTC) reply

Sorry you've been discouraged but please keep trying. I've added it at Norfolk_Southern_Railway#Air_quality_and_fuel_efficiency. Biscuittin ( talk) 10:23, 1 March 2010 (UTC) reply

I added a to my knowledge full list of inter model terminals as per nscorps website NS INTERMODEL TERMINALS If you see any problems with this please discus it. Thank You --Kopicz 03:53, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

I found a couple of RailPictures.net photos of that NS Locomotive painted up to look like a New York Central Railroad locomotive. I know they can't be used here, but it'd be great to find more Norfolk Southern heritage locomotives, and make some galleries of them. --------- User:DanTD ( talk) 05:33, 4 January 2014 (UTC) reply

The link purporting to demonstrate that N/S has routes in Canada shows only the lower-48 with an indication of intermodal (e.g., trucking) connections to Canada. The other source only demonstrates that it has a license to do business in Canada. TEDickey ( talk) 21:05, 23 January 2014 (UTC) reply

WHat about PRR???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Camaro fan 1 ( talk • contribs) 16:45, 21 May 2014 (UTC) reply

I have removed this sentence until it can be supported by citation: "These locomotives immediately became wildly popular among railfans as well as the general public." No matter how much railfans might like NS' Heritage Units, it is extremely dubious that more than a tiny fraction of the general public is even aware of them. PRRfan ( talk) 04:13, 4 May 2015 (UTC) reply

I have to agree with you, it would have been better to have some citations and references to railfan blogs ot web sites which cover some of the popularity, and perhaps if the original editor who proposed that commentary would rework the text and provide a new edit it would look more informative. Damotclese ( talk) 16:01, 4 May 2015 (UTC) reply

How can we address Canadian Pacific's proposal to purchase Norfolk Southern on this page? Should we integrate the information into an existing section, or should we create a new one? TH1980 ( talk) 01:11, 20 November 2015 (UTC) reply

I am working on integrating this recent development into the introduction and the "history" section. I welcome constructive assistance. TH1980 ( talk) 00:32, 5 December 2015 (UTC) reply

Should we devote a separate section entirely to the proposed CP-NS merger? TH1980 ( talk) 22:09, 16 January 2016 (UTC) reply

If you edit the page, you have to edit the holding company page too- Norfolk Southern Corporation. This includes the "new" Pocahontas Division and the company restructuring info as well.

Also, Canadian Pacific Railway Limited (the parent company) made the attempt to purchase Norfolk Southern, not Canadian Pacific Railway. Canadian Pacific Railway Limited and Canadian Pacific Railway are two different companies; Canadian Pacific Railway Limited owns and operates Canadian Pacific Railway.

And finally, Canadian Pacific Railway Limited made the attempt to purchase Norfolk Southern Corporation (the parent company), not Norfolk Southern Railway. Norfolk Southern Corporation and Norfolk Southern Railway are two different companies; Norfolk Southern Corporation owns and operates Norfolk Southern Railway.

Granthew ( talk) 05:40, 30 January 2016 (UTC) reply

Thank you for your help. It was getting too much for me alone to keep track of what was up with the would-be CP/NS merger. TH1980 ( talk) 23:28, 18 February 2016 (UTC) reply

Welcome, however I think all of the merger info should be on the Norfolk Southern Corporation article only and only small info about the merger be on the Norfolk Southern Railway article because the Norfolk Southern Corporation is involved more in the proposed merger than the Norfolk Southern Railway is. The merger info is exactly duplicate on the Norfolk Southern Corporation article and on the Norfolk Southern Railway. Granthew ( talk) 16:49, 13 March 2016 (UTC) reply

I concur. However, the separate page for NS Corp. seems to be missing. TH1980 ( talk) 03:30, 6 April 2016 (UTC) reply

I redirected NS Corp to the railroad because NS Corp is no longer needed on Wikipedia since the railroad and NS Corp would have the same exact duplicate history word for word and since on here, railfan users on Wikipedia don't acknowledge that the Southern Railway and the current Norfolk Southern Railway is the same exact railroad. So why the duplicate history word for word for two articles? Doesn't make sense. Now to be honest, I would rather have the the railroad page be redirected to NS Corp instead, but that's not standard practice on Wikipedia on the subjected of railroads. Plus, nobody edits the NS Corp article and only edits are the railroad article. I'm the only one on here that put time and effort in editing the NS Corp article when it was its own page again.

Again- I provided NS Corp annual reports that flat out says that the Southern and the current NS Railway is the same railroad. However, the evidence I provided was rejected. That's why I ended the discussion, including the Pa Lines discussion. So since railfan users on Wikipedia think the railroad was established in 1982 or 1990 which is not correct, well then I mind as well change the article back to where it all started before I edited the page; I did just that. I even trimmed down a little bit of the page after that too and in the process I eliminated the only sentence that clearly states that the Southern was renamed to the current NS Railway.

Now if I didn't start the issue with merging pages and have the railroad have two articles (one for its previous name and one for its current name) and in the process explained the railroad was renamed from Southern Railway to the current Norfolk Southern Railway, that still wouldn't work because the article to the railroad's current name would get changed to that the railroad was created by the merging of the Southern and the N&W which is not true but you railfan users on here believe that was the case.

CSX Transportation is not recognized as the continuation of Seaboard System Railroad either. On the Seaboard System Railroad page, it said the railroad was renamed to CSX Transportation. On the CSX predecessors page, it also says the Seaboard System Railroad was renamed to CSX Transportation. On the CSX Transportation page, it says that the railroad was formed by the merger of the Seaboard System Railroad and the Chessie System. So having two rail pages explaining the Seaboard System Railroad was renamed to CSX Transportation and having one page which happens to be the CSX Transportation page says it was formed by the merger of the Seaboard System Railroad and the Chessie System makes Wikipedia look bad.

It seems that you Wikipedia railfans define the founding of a railroad by what year did the railroad's name and logo came into being. That's not me. I define a railroad's founding by when it was exactly established. If Union Pacific Railroad was renamed to like "National Pacific Railroad" and that's a made up name, you users would probably not say that, you would say National Pacific Railroad replaced Union Pacific Railroad. If you want to create a separate Wikipedia article for the new railroad name than that's fine, but not acknowledging that both railroad names and logos belongs to the same railroad is not truthful, and therefore, Wikipedia's purpose to serve human knowledge will then be dead. It's more than just railroad's changing names, it's about Wikipedia's purpose to serve human knowledge which in one mans opinion is dead.

I flat out know that the Union Pacific Railroad is actually the continuation of the Southern Pacific Railroad, I'm well aware of that. So if you wanted to bend history and keep it neutral, would you say UPR was the dominant railroad but abandoned its corporate structure in favor of SPR's corporate structure under the Union Pacific Corporation, I don't know?

Granthew ( talk) 04:46, 22 April 2016 (UTC) reply

Can we change the word "takeover" to either "take over" or to "acquire?" The word "takeover" without the space has a different meaning than the words "take over," however both have a connotation of hostile intent. "Acquire" would be more appropriate since it's corporate multinational merging where presumably there are no actual combatants. What do you think? Damotclese ( talk) 18:39, 24 February 2016 (UTC) reply

I changed takeover to acquire, however I prefer either takeover or take over. I can't find the difference in meaning between takeover and take over. If you can provide information about the difference between the two pronunciations that will help. Granthew ( talk) 17:13, 13 March 2016 (UTC) reply

"Take over" is a verb phrase, "takeover" is a noun. So one attempts to take over a company, which can be described as a takeover of that company. oknazevad ( talk) 05:26, 26 March 2016 (UTC) reply

Well the Canadian Pacific/Norfolk Southern merger saga ended last week. Should a new page be created that is devoted to CP's attempt to merge with NS? It was as noteworthy an effort as the failed Santa Fe/Southern Pacific merger. TH1980 ( talk) 03:02, 20 April 2016 (UTC) reply

I think there should be, yes. It was a significant enough effort, but also I expect that the effort will be taken up again in the future, give it another year, two years and I expect they will attempt the merger again. Damotclese ( talk) 15:59, 20 April 2016 (UTC) reply

The CP stuff was removed because I changed the NSR article back to where it was before I edited the page. If you want to add the CP stuff back again, well then just find a previous version of the NSR article and just copy and paste it to the current version of the article and that's it. Granthew ( talk) 04:48, 22 April 2016 (UTC) reply

Thanks. TH1980 ( talk) 22:47, 19 May 2016 (UTC) reply

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The AAR reporting mark for the Norfolk Southern is "NS".

NSC is the AAR reporting mark for National Steel Car.

NSC is used for reporting "Norfolk Southern" stock sales on the NY Stock Exchange, it is NOT used as a reporting mark on NS RR rolling stock.

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In the"General Freight Classification Yards" part of the article, I tried to enter a hyper link to a new article for NSRR " Spencer Yard" in Linwood NC.

I submitted an article titled " Spencer Yard". An editor named Twister Sister rejected the article stating that: Spencer Yard is not notable and that any mention should be a part of the article for the town of Spencer, North Carolina.

Spencer Yard is NOT in Spencer North Carolina! it is ten + miles away it is not even in the same County.

In the main NSRR article under "General Freight Classification Yards" lists click-ons for Enola, Conway, and Luther Yards. Spencer Yard is the biggest NSRR yard in NC. Why is Spencer Yard not notable when these other yards have articles?

There also is an article titled "Linwood Yard" in Wikipedia for this same facility. LINWOOD is the name of the area of Davidson County NC where this yard is located, "Linwood Yard" is NOT the name of this yard. "Spencer Yard" is the official NSRR name for this facility.

Could the "Linwood Yard" article be renamed "Spencer Yard", updated, and have a click-on installed in the "General Freight Classification Yards" section of the main NSRR article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.55.177.81 ( talk) 19:04, 17 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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Hello, Connor here from Norfolk Southern. From a routine audit of the page, we've identified the following items for updating:

"Norfolk Southern is the namesake and leading subsidiary of the Norfolk Southern Corporation, based in Norfolk, Virginia." should become "based in Atlanta.

In "History", we believe the move to Atlanta should be added. Appropriate source material here: https://www.hok.com/news/2022-06/norfolk-southerns-new-headquarters-featured-in-interior-design-magazine/ https://www.usgbcgeorgiaawards.org/ https://www.ajc.com/life/new-norfolk-southern-hq-designed-with-future-in-mind/BJ7EOBQIUNEWHBKOKV7JNL5IFE/

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Annie Adams, EVP and Chief Transformation Officer ( https://www.linkedin.com/in/annie-adams-ba7b701b8/; https://www.ajc.com/life/new-norfolk-southern-hq-designed-with-future-in-mind/BJ7EOBQIUNEWHBKOKV7JNL5IFE/; https://www.railwayage.com/freight/class-i/ns-unveils-new-headquarters-in-atlanta/)

Cindy Sanborn, EVP and Chief Operating Officer ( https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews/news-wire/norfolk-southern-names-cindy-sanborn-chief-operating-officer-updated/; https://www.railwayage.com/safety/for-house-rail-subcommittee-an-earful-on-safety/; https://www.freightwaves.com/news/norfolk-southern-launching-operational-plan-for-intermodal-and-bulk)

Mark George, EVP and Chief Financial Officer ( https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-george-50906215/; https://www.freightwaves.com/news/norfolk-southern-funds-nearly-500-million-in-sustainability-projects; https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews/news-wire/norfolk-southern-working-to-alleviate-crew-shortages-and-improve-service/)

Ed Elkins, EVP and Chief Marketing Officer ( https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-elkins-733b726/; https://www.railwayage.com/freight/class-i/for-ns-changes-at-the-top/; https://www.progressiverailroading.com/norfolk_southern/article/Supply-chain-changes-prompt-Norfolk-Southern-to-alter-its-operating-course-sharpen-customer-focus--66050)

Nabanita Nag, EVP and Chief Legal Officer ( https://www.linkedin.com/in/nabanita-chaterjee-nag-b2813113/; https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/norfolk-southern-elevates-nabanita-nag-to-chief-legal-officer; https://www.railwayage.com/freight/class-i/nag-morris-wong-move-up-at-ns/)

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Railway Age’s 25 Under 40 2022 Cassandra Mullee, Director-Chicago Transportation Coordination Office (2022) Herbert Smith, Regional Executive Director, Government Relations (2021)

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-- 2022 Green Bond of the Year https://www.environmental-finance.com/content/awards/environmental-finances-bond-awards-2022/winners/green-bond-of-the-year-corporate-norfolk-southern.html

-- Railway Age’s 10 Most Influential Industry Leaders Alan Shaw, President and CEO (2022) Annie Adams, EVP & Chief Transformation Officer (2021) https://www.railwayage.com/news/railway-age-10-most-influential-industry-leader-nominations-open-2/

-- RT&S’ 10 Under 40 JaQuinton Braswell, ATC System Compliance & Safety (2022) John R. Fleps, AVP Engineering – MW&S (2021) https://www.rtands.com/track-construction/rts-selects-2022-10-under-40-list/

-- American Chemistry Council’s Sustainability Leadership Awards Locomotive Fuel Efficiency (2022) https://www.americanchemistry.com/chemistry-in-america/chemistry-sustainability/sustainability-leadership-awards

-- International Railway Journal Women in Rail Awards Annie Adams, EVP & Chief Transformation Officer (2022) https://www.railjournal.com/in_depth/irj-women-in-rail-awards-2022-part-3/

-- Railway Track & Structures – Women in Engineering Awards Cherita Hunter, Regional Manager C&S (2022) https://www.rtands.com/track-construction/2022-rts-women-in-railroad-engineering-list-is-revealed/ --

In "Environmental Record"

Norfolk Southern's sustainability efforts are helmed by Josh Raglin, Chief Sustainability Officer. Raglin is respected in the environmental sector for a variety of things, including NS's work at the Brosnan Forest.

In May 2022, Norfolk Southern reported the allocation of $496 million in net proceeds from its green bonds to fund projects including:

$275.6 million for DC to AC locomotive power conversions (with more than 950 modernizations to be completed by 2025).

$10.9 million for locomotive fuel management, directly supporting our science-based target to reduce carbon emissions intensity by 42% by 2034.

$1.4 million for a GP34 ECO yard unit

$99.5 million for intermodal facility improvements, including hybrid and fully-electric cranes at many facilities.

$97.8 million for the rail, ties and ballast program which recycles 100% of used rail and crossties.

$4.3 million for shore line restoration and stream/wetland ecosystems restorations.

Sources: https://www.railwayage.com/freight/class-i/ns-issues-green-bond-project-report/; https://www.dcvelocity.com/articles/54898-norfolk-southern-aims-to-make-rail-transport-greener; https://www.progressiverailroading.com/norfolk_southern/article/Greening-up-Norfolk-Southern-aspires-to-raise-the-sustainability-ante--64149

In "Locomotives" there is information missing regarding the modernization program in partnership with Wabtec, which aims to modernize 950 locomotives by 2025. Sources: https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews/news-wire/wabtec-to-modernize-330-locomotives-for-norfolk-southern/ https://www.freightwaves.com/news/norfolk-southern-wabtec-to-modernize-300-ns-locomotives NS Connor Spielmaker ( talk) 15:13, 3 October 2022 (UTC) reply

I've corrected the sentence about the headquarters as that was an obvious inaccuracy, and moved duplicate material about the headquarters move from the lead section into the history section. Will evaluate the other things here and add them if in my view they are encyclopedic. I'm assuming "Alana Shaw" is actually "Alan Shaw"? That's what I see on the NS website. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 17:31, 3 October 2022 (UTC) reply

Thanks, and yes that's correct. Fixed that. Also - Shaw was appointed President in December 2021 and made CEO in May 2022 upon Squires's retirement. So Shaw should now read President & CEO. NS Connor Spielmaker ( talk) 15:25, 6 October 2022 (UTC) reply

Without knowing the findings of the investigation of the Ohio derailment, experience indicates mechanical failure of one railcar, specifically failed wheel bearing, wheel, or journal based on the sparks and flames seen on video. The root cause of this incident is lack of maintenance and/ or the absence of hot bearing detectors placed alongside the track intermittently. Such detectors are inexpensive and easily installed; it is a very common device that signals the Locomotive Engineer that excessive heat is found and the train must stop and be expected. The type of brake system is irrelevant if this simple safety device is used. There is no excuse for not having this heat detector device that is commonplace on all railroads. 171.252.154.69 ( talk) 13:37, 20 February 2023 (UTC) reply

From what I've seen, there were hotbox detectors, but they were spaced something like 30 miles apart and there seems to be no standard for how far apart to place them. I do think we need to be careful not to give undue weight to the braking system in the article (and not to give undue weight to the crash in general). It did not cause the crash and I've seen no indications it didn't perform as expected. "Post-Civil War era braking systems" is a nice headline, but the train air brake has remained fundamentally the same because Westinghouse's invention was genius and has proven very safe and effective at bringing massive hulks of steel to a safe stop. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 19:00, 20 February 2023 (UTC) reply

NTSB to Open a Special Investigation into Norfolk Southern Railway’s Safety Practices and Culture (Mar 7 '23) Mapsax ( talk) 23:58, 7 March 2023 (UTC) reply

This entity only ever existed on paper as part of the implementation of the Conrail split. There is very little that can be said about it, and that minimal information should be placed in the NS article, which is where the Pennsylvania Lines LLC rail lines went. I have proposed a merger of New York Central Lines LLC into CSX for the same reason. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 20:14, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Support per nom. No need for a separate article. Pi.1415926535 ( talk) 21:50, 15 April 2024 (UTC) reply

For the love of all that is holy, please stop making every single added sentence start with "on" or "in". It's poor writing and makes the article look terrible. Trainsandotherthings ( talk) 20:53, 18 April 2024 (UTC) reply