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Frequently asked questions Many of these questions arise frequently on the talk page concerning Moon Landing Conspiracy Theories. To view an explanation to the answer, click the [show] link to the right of the question. Is this article unfairly biased or non-neutral because it debunks the conspiracy theories? (No.)
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I am calling on MrOllie, I am A Leaf, and Robby.is.on to cease edit warring and return the text to the status quo ante. This [1] is textbook WP:POINTY behavior. Leave the final decision to page watchers who are uninvolved. Sennalen ( talk) 22:17, 11 November 2023 (UTC) Sennalen ( talk) 22:17, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
If an opposing lawyer in a court said "the defendant falsely claimed ..." then the judge would stop him immediately and ask him to rephrase. Determining whether the claim was false or not is the point of the trial and cannot be presupposed. The same should apply here. We state what was claimed. Then we look into the supporting facts and only after this proof do we say true or false. Stepho talk 00:22, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
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Landing is one thing but how did they managed to get BACK to earth?????! 2600:1011:B12C:4342:F457:3EC:2626:383 ( talk) 03:40, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
Would it be possible to include an "In Popular Culture" section with the following information? :-
In the 2024 film " Fly Me to the Moon", a NASA director hires a marketing specialist brought in to fix NASA's public image and stage a "back-up" plan for a fake moon landing in case the transmission from the real moon landing fails.