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Please could someone who knows explain why Martin Rosen currently redirects here? There's no mention in the Moishe Rosen article to the name Martin. The reason I ask is that I would like to write an article about another Martin Rosen, the director of the Watership Down film, so will need to change the redirect when that's done. Loganberry 03:25, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
Rosen was raised in an Orthodox family? I know this is often claimed by Messianic Jews, but is rarely the case. Perhaps "traditional" would be more accurate? Jayjg (talk) 19:03, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
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Moishe was raised in an orthodox family but he originally wasn't really a believer in God.
Here is the quote from Religious Leaders of America. His family was not Orthodox at all.
"Martin Meyer Rosen, better known under his public name, Moishe Rosen, the founder of Jews for Jesus, is the son of Rose Baker and Ben Rosen. He was raised in a nominal Reform Jewish home in Denver, Colorado, where his family had moved when he was two years old. As he grew older, he observed Jewish traditions, but had come to doubt any religious truths. In 1947 he enrolled at Colorado University, but dropped out in 1951 before completing his degree. During his college days, in 1950, he married Ceil Starr. A chance meeting with Orville Freeman, an Evangelical Christian, prompted a spiritual search for both Rosen and his wife. Both converted to Christianity in 1953."
http://www.jewsforjudaism.org/web/bookreviews/sharethenewlife.html points out
That Rosen wrote (Moishe Rosen with William Proctor, Jews for Jesus, Old Tappan, N.J: Fleming H. Revell, 1974)
"My mother's parents, Reform Jews from Austria, immigrated to this country. . . . My father's father . . . was an Orthodox believer. . . ." page 15
"My father was not very religious. . . . Though my father attended synagogue, he often told us, 'Religion is a racket.'" page 17
Rosen sums up his religious training by saying, "My father's belief-'religion is a racket' --made more sense to me as I got older." page 21
Actually, it is Ceil Rosen who Mr. Rosen, in the book Jews for Jesus, states grew up in an Orthodox Jewish home. She is portrayed as bitter and scornfully hostile toward her adoptive parent's Orthodoxy. Mr. Rosen writes, "Ceil herself came from an Orthodox family which kept separate dishes and ate only kosher food. But Ceil herself was a professed atheist who reacted violently against the restrictive customs that her family had imposed on her. I generally tried to observe the main fast days, such as Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, but she had nothing but contempt for such practices. I remember we were together one year on Yom Kippur, and though she rarely treated me to anything on our dates, she made a special point of buying me an ice cream cone. . . ." page 21
Note that if she was not born Jewish, then she would have to have accepted conversion when she became adult (at twelve years of age). If she did not accept the conversion, then she would be regarded as not Jewish according to Jewish law.
Moishe Rosen not only has created controversy with his contention that Jews need to believe in Jesus, but also his heavyhanded leadership style within the Jews for Jesus organization. For details of this, see [1] and [2]
You are censoring his temper problem! Where do you have the right to do such censorship.
Okay would whoever that is reverting the changes please stop. 203.214.133.79 16:51, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
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