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At the risk of being pedantic, in what meaningful sense was she born Norma Jeane Morteson? Can children be automatically born with a name, independent of what name their parents give them? I am aware that this was her mother's legal surname at the time. PatGallacher ( talk) 09:56, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
I had thought the birthmark was covered over or exposed as she saw fit. Now I understand there was no birthmark. Was anyone before her famous for emphasizing a real or imagined birthmark? It seems worth a mention as it was something she played up in film and still pictures. (fotoguzzi)—Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.105.160.69 ( talk • contribs) 23:39, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
marilynmonroefamily.com is NOT a fan site in the simple use of the word. It is hosted by the cousins of Marilyn. She is my 2nd cousin once removed. My grandmother is Gladys's cousin and Marilyn's 1st cousin once removed. Della Mae Hogan, Dora Hogan, and William Marion Hogan are siblings. William Marion Hogan is my great-grandfather. We are currently documenting Marilyn's (and our) family history for public viewing. All supporting documentation will posted at marilynmonroefamily.com as we continue updates. Please browse the site so you understand its context and importance concerning Marilyn's family history. Please do not remove www.marilynmonroefamily.com. Thanks, jasonekennedy@yahoo.com (www.facebook.com/jasonedwardkennedy) Jasonekennedy ( talk) 19:22, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
With all due respect, ALL of the EXTERNAL LINKS at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_Monroe are ADVERTISEMENT supported (see the list below). Therefore, you cannot reject www.marilynmonroefamily.com on those grounds. Please base your argument on content and context. It appears moderators are off-handedly rejecting www.marilynmonroefamily.com based on face value rather than doing any due diligence. Please take the time to do your due diligence. I'll be adding more documentation as we go along. I wish to gain the support of the Wikipedia team members and moderators in publically announcing Marilyn's family history to the world. For some reason, Marilyn's family lineage has been tucked away in a dark corner. But, there are many living cousins on William Marion Hogan's side who have kept silent for far too long. Everyone has something to say about Marilyn, except Marilyn relatives...why is that??!! I am here to change that. Please work with me and take the time to do your due diligence. Thanks, Jason Kennedy Jasonekennedy ( talk) 20:47, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
EXTERNAL LINKS at ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_Monroe):
1)Internet Movie Database- http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000054/ (ADVERTISEMENT SUPPORTED) 2)TCM Movie Database- http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/person/134087%7C106569/Marilyn-Monroe/ (ADVERTISEMENT SUPPORTED) 3) Allrovi- http://www.allrovi.com/name/p50065 (ADVERTISEMENT SUPPORTED) 4)WorldCat catalog- http://worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n79-55651 (ADVERTISEMENT SUPPORTED) 5) "LIFE"- http://www.life.com/gallery/27452 (ADVERTISEMENT SUPPORTED) 6) http://books.google.com/books?id=eUkEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA68&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=2#v=twopage&q&f=false (ADVERTISEMENT SUPPORTED) 7) http://altscreen.com/06/27/2011/marilyn-monroe-retrospective-at-bamcinematek/ (ADVERTISEMENT SUPPORTED)
Respectfully, I understand perfectly well. Firstly, can you prove that they were "added" by "non-affiliated third party members" (and what does it matter anyway)? If you believe my claim, then that makes you a "non-affiliated third party member" who can then a approve the website: http//www.marilynmonroefamily.com . Secondly, the "EXTERNAL LINKS" ARE advertisement driven. I therefore rest my case on that issue. But again, you are not addressing the issue. What you call a "loose association" just hasn't been fully implemented as of yet. And you are attacking the messenger rather than the message. The key term here is "due diligence". Are you doing it? That is all that I am asking. Yes, the burden of proof is on me. However, instead of out-rightly rejecting something...please take the time to investigate. This is supposed to be an open forum where the evidence is fully weighed. I am sensing that this is not the case. A more mature response would be to let the evidence build and then we can make a decision as to the authenticy of the claim. Please do not get your feelings hurt by my statements. I am only making my point. Respectfully, Jason Kennedy Jasonekennedy ( talk) 22:33, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
So wait a minute, you initially state, "Links that are added to promote a site by the site operator or its affiliates should not be added. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or a mere collection of external links". And now you state, " As for the current group of links - "advertisement driven" has nothing to do with these sites (EXTERNAL SITES). It's not banner ads on the site that determine if they should be linked or not from here." So what is it?! You state one thing then claim another in just a couple of paragraphs! Then you revert back to your initial claim by stating, "My point was Wikipedia itself is not the place to advertise or drive traffic to your site by linking to it". Well no kidding! It's not a surprise to anyone that the proposed website SHOULD add something of value to the topic! But then you continue by stating what you think I believe, "you believe it will somehow legitimize your website". I NEVER stated that! And I am beginning to NOT appreciate this conversation with you! What I did state, is that instead of rejecting a proposed website offhandedly and at face-value, perform due diligence! That is exactly what I stated! You then continue your assault by being critical of the site content, not even acknowledging that the proposed site is in its initial launch (content is still being added). You go on to talk about that only verified reliable sources are acceptable, but haven't even taken the time to find out what verifiable resources I am going to provide. In other words, all you have done is chastized me and treated me with disrespect! And yes, I saw what you wrote about "who cares about distant relatives" before you deleted it! My grandmother IS Gladys's cousin! And she is still alive at 84 years old! I don't know who you are, but what you should have done was acknowledge the website at face-value and agreed to place it on hold until its importance could becomes further investigated. You have wasted my time with a bunch of petty, bad-tempered quarreling and you have NOT represented Wikipedia with professionalism! www.facebook.com/jasonedwardkennedy Jasonekennedy ( talk) 05:24, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
I've already demonstrated that YOU are not even clear on the "rules" that you claim to know. You changed your story and can't even admit it! Adding links to "strawman" definitions doesn't support your argument, it only makes you appear desperate! Stating that you did due diligence when in fact, you initially and offhandedly rejected my site without any hesitation. You only ACTED when I made the point for you to act, and then you only performed again, a cursory inquiry only. AND furthermore, you can't even help yourself! You conclude your statement by stating "Oh wait, it's not there because it's just a figment of your overactive imagination". That is exactly the same attitude you carried when I initially proposed my site! AND it is the same sort of statement that you deleted on the previous conversation (yes, you did and I don't know where it went...you've been here for 5 years...you tell me)!
Documented statements YOU made along the same line: 1) ...loose family tie in. I mean I have the same last name as a famous politician - if created a website about him, would that entitle me to link my website from his Wikipedia page? Probably not.
2)Is it the pictures of her non notable distant relatives?
You could have professionally ended this conversation by politely stating that you would place a hold on the site until further and future evaluation. Instead, you have been on the defensive. And please do point out ONE time I personally attacked you!
To further support my site: I bet you didn't know that Marilyn's Hogan relatives were with Daniel Boone! And yes, documented with reliable historical sources. OR that Marilyn had a Great + Uncle who was involved with Kentucky politics....and more....No, you haven't take the time to investigate anything...have you! All this ranting has been totally unnecessary...
Finally a rational response...Thanks, I'll add more content for later evaluation. Jasonekennedy ( talk) 16:41, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
You still carrying on? Don't worry...I'm done, I already made my point! Jasonekennedy ( talk) 22:05, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Interesting, a month and a half later the site remains unupdated since August 21, and is being used as a soapbox to encourage people to boycott Marilyn Monroe products from Marylin Monroe LLC, Authentic Brands Group, and CMG Worldwide. WP:COI. My rationale behind removing links to this site from Wikipedia stands. -- Yankees76 Talk 19:48, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
What is even more interesting is that are still commenting on this...furthermore, your statement is completely false, the site has been updated with much more documents... and that is exactly why we continue to grow...But I know you would rather play games than take the time to verify anything yourself. But you are right about one thing...we are not happy with Anna Strasberg. And if you have a problem with that, then you can ask Marilyn if she was happy about that! Have a nice day... JKennedy— Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.127.130.208 ( talk) 06:03, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
Look, what is important for you to understand is that after talking to most of the relatives on the Hogan side... everyone agree's Marilyn fame is being abused...therefore as relatives, we have a right to speak up about what is going on....Maybe you would feel the same way if Marilyn was your cousin.... JKennedy— Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.127.130.208 ( talk) 06:15, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
Yankees76, I previously had already agreed that since content was lacking on my site that I would NOT resubmit my request until I developed it further. And since then, I did NOT come back on here begging for your permission to list my site. Yet, you decided to chime in again, and talk about "removing links to this site from Wikipedia stands". Were any links posted on Wikipedia? NO! Did I resubmit my request to link my site? NO! Furthermore, I am not in the business of letting your "requirements" dictate what I do with my site. In fact, after adding much more content in the form of public and personal documents, I had decided NOT to worry about Wikipedia. That is why you did NOT see me back on here again! Your statements do NOT demonstrate any due diligence on your part...but what it does demonstrate is a continuation of your earlier personal attacks on my claims. And REMEMBER, before you rattle on again, I DID NOT RESUBMIT MY SITE! Therefore, mindlessly reciting Wikipedia rules and verbalizing your opinions are POINTLESS and simply argumentative...bye! Jasonekennedy ( talk) 07:19, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
Since marilynmonroefamily.com is a fan site it wouldn't be accepted under WP:EL as an official external link, and since the owner or publisher of site is not a recognized expert on the subject of this article and the site does not contain anything like a unique Filmography or something similar that couldn't be added to the article it would also fail WP:EL. And since its' not a reliable source to be used a reference in this article this whole discussion is rather pointless. I'm surprised this conversation has lasted this long. I'm closing this section to avoid any further personal attacks from single purpose accounts. -- Quarte t 14:47, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
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There are references to sexual assault that Norma Jeane endured while living with Grace and Doc Goddard; however, the newest biography on Marilyn (by J. Randy Taraborrelli) claims there is no proof to this story. Which leads me to the greater issue, these sources are old and outdated. Taraborrelli's work is the most recent and has acquired interviews from others who had previously not spoken out. Please consider cleaning up this section as your information is speculation based on old source material.
You also completely gloss over the suspicious activity around her death. In Marilyn's Last Words, there is sufficient evidence to show that her death was more like a homicide than suicide.
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This storyline leaves off with Jim joining the Merchant Marines. The next talk of her romances is when she began dating Joe DiMaggio. Nothing of their divorce or the events leading up to it is mentioned. Unless its somewhere out of order that I am just not seeing, this should be corrected if any information is known. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.211.225.195 ( talk) 12:21, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
Have one, fully aware of how it works, not necessary to log in just to make a suggestion on a discussion board, as its not an actual edit. Don't know what the topic of vandalism has to do with pointing out that her first divorce was omitted from the storyline. Hope if anyone finds the correct information that it will be updated Thanks :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.211.225.195 ( talk) 13:50, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
Related to this question on List of Presidential Medal of Freedom recipients, is there any truth that Monroe was awarded this medal or the earlier Medal of Freedom? I cannot find any credible sources on this matter. Monroe was added to the list of recipients but then was deleted from it again without sources being given either way. She supposedly got the medal in 1952 which strikes me a odd seeing as she was relatively unknown then and the medal was apparently given that year for her performances in Korea for US troops even though I can't find a reference for her even being in Korea until two years later. -- Kalsermar ( talk) 15:47, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
I want to check a fact before editing: who took the publicity photo of her for the film Niagara, (as used by
Andy Warhol),
was it Frank Powolny (
http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lot_details.aspx?intObjectID=5138213) or Gene Korman (
http://www.webexhibits.org/colorart/marilyns.html)
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I am currently an undergraduate at George Mason University. For our English class, we must edit our biographical subject Wikipedia page (mine being Marilyn Monroe). Her page is currently semi-protected. I can only edit two of the main articles from her page. I had previously sent a request for temporary editing permission, but I'm assuming I sent it to the wrong forum...or something of that sort. I'm very lost, to say the least and I would greatly appreciate it if I would be granted that permission in order to pass my final. Thank you for your time and assistance.
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"Though officially classified as a "probable suicide", the possibility of an accidental overdose, as well as the possibility of homicide, have not been ruled out.". Not been ruled out by whom? The police, the FBI, or the conspiracy theorists? I feel that this statement should be modified so that it doesn't look like an official stance. 124.120.165.165 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 06:14, 10 February 2012 (UTC).
I added a new image to the Marilyn Monroe article in the section of the article where it says "Last films: 1958-1962" the name of the image is: Madison's Square Garden 2011.jpg I own the image because I obtained my self by taking a snapshot of it on my trip to NYC in August of 2011 (last year) and the reason of why I added that image to that article was because it demonstrates her because she went there on May 19th, 1962 to sing happy birthday to our 35th President ([[John F. Kennedy)) on his 45th birthday I hope all of you wikipedia administrators like it thanks!Ilovechoclate 00:37, 15 February 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovechoclate ( talk • contribs)
I added to new images to the Marilyn Monroe article one on "Leading Films" because the image had to do with one of those years and another one to the section "Last Films" because that other image also had to do with those years Ilovechoclate ( talk) 16:32, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
I'm wondering if it would be appropriate to list the new NBC series Smash, seeing as it is about the production of a musical based on Marilyn Monroe's career and part of her life. Thoughts? TheBigFish ( talk) 05:47, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
Somebody fouled up the Infobox in Marilyn Monroe's article.
Anthony22 ( talk) 22:43, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
You didn't see the issue, because somebody fixed the problem before you looked at the article.
Anthony22 ( talk) 13:00, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
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The article says that Van Nuys is another city in Los Angeles county. In fact, Van Nuys is just a part of Los Angeles. The phrase "another city in Los Angeles county" should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asbasb ( talk • contribs) 16:28, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
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Near the end of the section Early work: 1945–1947, the name Marilyn Monroe is bolded for no apparent reason. This is not among the exceptions permitting boldface other than in the lead section as stated in Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Text formatting#Other uses, and it should therefore be unbolded. Thanks. -- 213.168.119.30 ( talk) 13:20, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
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I notice that Katharine McPhee was left out as a portrayer of Marilyn Monroe in the tv show Smash, as well as Uma Thurman. 76.189.12.228 ( talk) 16:15, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
I would just like to start off by saying that there are so many errors withing this article. Hypersexuality, substance abuse? First, Marilyn Monroe had an early fear of sex, and didn't even sleep in the same bed as Dougherty for about two weeks after they were married. They were not really in love, too. While they were fond of each other and did love each other, they weren't "in love". And as for substance abuse (which is actually abusing drugs, which is illegal, which are often unprescribed drugs), Marilyn only reluctantly took the pills that Greenson prescribed for her. Plus, the Goddards were a MAJOR part of her life! While some of this article I approve of, some is completely wrong and insane speculations. I also think that we should have a whole part on reasons why people thought that she was murdered. I've read about three books on JUST that subject, and I can write a thesis on it by now. Finally, Marilyn's last phone call was not the president. It was officially Lee Strasberg ("And say goodbye to yourself, 'cause you're a good guy). Bobby was in the area and had visited her in LA days before her death, and she talked to her stepson, DiMaggio, earlier, bright and optimistic for her future plans that involved remarrying Joe and filming Something's Got to Give again. Sources? Marilyn Monroe historian all of my life. Serioudly, the first book that I picked out on my own was a Marilyn picture book. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnitaNayaLove ( talk • contribs) 00:11, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
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Marilyn's mother, Gladys Pearl Monroe, was born on May 27, 1902, in Porfirio Diaz, Mexico, now Piedras Negras, to Otis Elmer Monroe and Della Mae Hogan. Mike3000gt71 ( talk) 01:20, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
This article only mentions Megan Hilty and Uma Thurman as playing Marylin in the series Smash, but it is Katharine McPhee playing the fictional actress Karen Cartwright who actually lands the lead role as Marylin in the production of Bombshell. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katharine_McPhee and http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1897713/— Preceding unsigned comment added by TanDo2000 ( talk • contribs) 18:39, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
In Shelly Winters' autobiography, she related how she & Marilyn had been roommates in Hollywood as young, struggling actresses in 1947. They discussed men that they would like to 'sleep' with. "I want to sleep with Albert Einstein", said Marilyn and she did! As they both were single at the time, it would best be described as a tryst. But 'the math was all wrong' as Einstein was 47 years older than her. There are letters between the two that still exist and are part of the Einstein Letters housed at Hebrew University in Israel. This tryst between the most famous man and woman of the 20th century was discussed in-depth at the 2004 Einstein Conference at the Aspen Institute. This article should include, Albert Einstein & Marilyn had a tryst. - Brad Watson, Miami 71.196.11.183 ( talk) 13:03, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
Actually, it was believed in some very close circles during the late 1950’s that her miscarriage in 1957 was NOT a miscarriage at all as previously reported in August & September of 1957 , and that Arthur Miller was instrumental in staging most of it so as to look that way because Marilyn didn’t want it widely known at the time she had a baby because she felt it would ruin her career and the life of her baby (believed to be a boy) so Arthur orchestrated and consciously bribed certain hospital staff members with unknown amounts of money and gifts and even some physicians on duty at that time in New York were it is suggested she and Arthur were rarely seen in public during this time as well. This of course was dismissed by both Mr. Miller and Ms. Monroe later that year, does this ever make you wonder…so who really knows, but if she did indeed have a child this would have been the perfect time-frame in which it would have happened because of the factual notion of a small belly bump and some say larger hips during this time period and that in fact she gained some 30+ pounds and lost very little of that weight while filming “Some Like it Hot” several months down the road and quite obviously visible in the film as well. Guaranteed, somebody knows something but is never going to say a word, perhaps because of the secrecy revolving around her death. I can’t say as I blame these folks if they do indeed know something, and keep in mind during that time period it was probably easier than we think to fake a lot of paperwork or in this case intentionally lose documents for right amount of money. Just think for a moment if you were in her shoes…would you do the same thing? This woman really wanted a child and spoke about it very openly, being a mother myself I’d consider it if I were her. A few years back a hand full of us look-up some stuff in the New York archives of births in and around that time period and all the birth records were missing…ever since then my friends and I believe this was intentional. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.8.74.105 ( talk) 22:03, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
In addition to William Travilla, who is mentioned in the article, Marilyn Monroe worked with fashion designers Oleg Cassini, Ceil Chapman, Dorothy Jeakins, Elois Jenssen, Charles LeMaire, Don Loper, and Jean Louis. References: http://artinfo.com/photo-galleries/slideshow-marilyn-monroe-tk?image=4; Marilyn in Fashion: The Enduring Influence of Marilyn Monroe by Christopher Nickens, George Zeno Jul 3, 2012 ISBN: 9780762443321, Published by Running Press. Mrs Skylark ( talk) 15:14, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry..I HAD to say this...of all the pictures of Marilyn there are..Wiki picks THAT ONE for her biography page??? Really????????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.197.149.251 ( talk) 02:15, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
This page used to say one of her former surnames was Baker. Why was that removed? I read that her mother changed her surname to Baker after marriage. As a child, she was often confused with both surnames of Mortenson and Baker. Spelling Style ( talk) 17:45, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
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The Ella Fitzgerald quote refers to the Mocambo nightclub. The Mocambo has its own Wikipedia page but the word isn't blue i.e. It isn't hyperlinked. Maybe because words in quotes aren't linked? If not please link it. Many thanks 3Edu4All ( talk) 00:29, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
At the bottom of the page, it says Monroe was a pentecostal convert. That is not true. She was raised a Christian Scientist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.31.164.192 ( talk) 19:03, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
Please replace the link for "Playboy Online" with the following:
Playboy Wiki consolidates links for other official Playboy sites. At PB Wiki, the links for "Playboy Online" are in "Playboy.com Previews". Frankly, the current link for "Playboy Online" is embarrassingly inadequate. Marilyn deserves a better link from Playboy. Thanks. Wikilister ( talk) 04:52, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
Some Like It Hot was distributed by United Artists, no for Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer. -- 186.182.145.201 ( talk) 01:27, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
I am not sure of the protocol for wiki pages, but there is a short segment of Marilyn's life where she worked at the Radioplane OQ-2 factory. She is referenced on that page with a link to this page. "It was at this factory that in 1944 Army photographer David Conover saw a young woman assembler named Norma Jeane Dougherty, whom he thought had potential as a model. She was photographed in the plant, which led to a screen test for Norma Jeane, who soon changed her name to Marilyn Monroe."
Should not there be a reverse link and mention back to the Radioplane OQ-2 page? -- Pcwalden ( talk) 20:12, 28 December 2012 (UTC)pcwalden
According to Donald Spoto: Marilyn Monroe - Die Biographie (page 121, german) and the international movie database the director of the film Scudda Hoo! Scudda Hay! is F. Hugh Herbert, not Hugh Herbert, who is someone else. --Slowrider (Editor of the German Wikipedia) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.0.148.52 ( talk) 15:02, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Our Miss Globe Organisation article states that Norma Jeane won the Miss Globe International pageant in 1947, although the source provided may not be a very RS. I could not see (is there?) any reference to this award in this article. If there is not, we should find a good source and add the info. If there already is a mention and I skipped it, sorry for taking other users' time in vain. -- E4024 ( talk) 10:02, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
I just noticed the new photograph of a nude Marilyn Monroe from Playboy's inaugural December, 1953 issue. I've seen this photograph before, but I haven't seen it on Wikipedia until now. This is an excellent photo of one of the most beautiful women of the twentieth century.
The publication of this photo in the article on Marilyn Monroe raises a few issues that are debatable. First and foremost, is the picture classified as art, eroticism, or pornography? Who knows, it could be all three. Second, has the publication of the photo created any backlash from parents or religious groups? Wikipedia is a family encyclopedia that is not tracked by porn filters. Is the photo appropriate for an 8-year-old child to see? A lot of parents would not approve of their pre-teen child viewing such an image.
I use YouTube all the time, and as far as I know, the site does not permit nude videos to be uploaded.
I also remember a few repercussions from the cover on the Sports Illustrated annual Winter Swimsuit Issue. The models are very provocative, but at least they are clothed. One nun wrote in and said, "My copy was burned immediately, and the subscription will cease." A priest commented that he was concerned that such an erotic image on a magazine cover was sitting on his front desk.
Obviously, a web site can set its own standards for the publication of erotic images. The photo of Monroe is certainly not illegal, but it might be inappropriate for minor children. I'm not a prude, and the freedom of the Internet is a great thing, but he question remains, "Is the nude photo of Marilyn Monroe appropriate for everyone who uses Wikipedia?"
Anthony22 ( talk) 17:28, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
I don't think it's appropriate either, but it is also important to remember that nude pictures DO exist on Wikipedia, and there are articles about those body parts which have images of nude people, as well there are images of sexual acts on those pages. It's not possible to completely prevent youth from accessing these pages.
Despite that, I don't think that image of Monroe belongs on the page, there are a lot of pictures of her clothed on the page already, it's just unnecessary.
D e v r i t 23:21, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
121.74.76.191 ( talk) 09:15, 25 April 2013 (UTC) As a parent I am concerned about the use of this photograph, because the Wikipedia article comes up when using Google SafeSearch on web search engines designed for kids. I also did not want to see the photograph myself. If the photo cannot be removed please have a warning at the top of the page, for example - "WARNING THIS PAGE CONTAINS NUDE IMAGES" or something similar. 121.74.76.191 ( talk) 09:15, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
I believe this is a promotional photograph for Marilyn's movie Ladies of the Chorus. It's only a small note I would like to make, but this would date the photograph c. 1948 as Ladies of the Chorus was released 1949. My only source for this is http://doctormacro.com, a high quality 20s-50s movie scans website which has always been 100% reliable for myself when I have checked other sources. If this is correct, which I am 99.9% sure it is, this would date the profile photograph as 1948 and not the stated 1950. I also know this having studied photographs of Marilyn from that period of time, and this resembles Marilyn more from 1948 as by 1949 she had dyed her hair a light blonde. Thanks.
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Under songs could someone put Who Killed Marilyn by The Misfits. They also took their band name from her movie of the same name. Here's a link for source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misfits_%28band%29 71.90.154.130 ( talk) 10:51, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Some info from these can be added: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/marilyn-monroe8217s-death-sex-with-jfk-taped-by-private-eye-fred-otash/story-fni0fee2-1226661161975 and http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/NorthAmerica/Detective-taped-Monroe-and-John-F-Kennedy-having-sex/Article1-1072606.aspx ---- Kailash29792 ( talk) 12:37, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
The article on James Dougherty states that he married Norma after the Goddards relocated to West Virginia. The article on Marilyn states that she married Dougherty after the Goddards relocated to Virginia. Anyone have a definitive reference to clarify which state. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.2.16.188 ( talk) 19:17, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
This entire article seems scrubbed clean of Monroe's drug addiction and abuse. The word "drug" only appears once in the entire article, and the mention of barbiturates found in her system by the coroner. Please add a section. ~ 67.0.212.221 ( talk) 00:40, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
In the infobox it says she converted to Judaism in 1956... has anybody provided a reliable sources to prove this?-- DemirBajraktarevic ( talk) 05:59, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
What is the reason to remove the centerfold image of Playboy even after adding three references explaining both its visual appearance and its historical relevance? Adding a whole paragraph explaining the subject can't be considered edit warring, and yet the image is being removed without explanation. Diego ( talk) 20:47, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
Canoe1967 ( talk) 16:26, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
There's the related issue of what to do with the centerfold image. Now that this article includes images of the calendars, the Playboy article is the natural place to display the previous image. That usage is consistent with all the NFCC criteria and guidelines, as a low-resolution copy of a historic image critically discussed in text. I was concerned about having it together with the issue's cover, so I've moved the cover to the lead section so that they don't collide in the same paragraph. Diego ( talk) 12:35, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia:IDONTLIKEIT is just an essay though. Not policy nor guideline. The source already in the article states 8 Million calendars printed. The Playboy article states only 53,991 issues. [2] [3] [4] Those are the sources from the article. We can add the material above that you claimed was false if you wish to verify how iconic and revolutionary these images were. They are of Marilyn and therefore should belong in her article.-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 07:32, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
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Marilyn Monroe also used the pseudonim Zelda Zonk: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zelda_(given_name)--Europa 19:55, 27 October 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jean Bernstein ( talk • contribs)
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Feineseideda ( talk) 16:07, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Norma Jeane Montenson, best known as Marilyn Monroe, was born on June the 1st, 1926, Los Angeles California.She did not have a normal childhood because she spent most of it in a foster home.Although it was tough, she still did not let a little thing like that stop her from achieve her goal or dream.Because many years later she became a national super star and changed her name to Marilyn Monroe.As you all probably know, Marilyn,was American and had four jobs. She was an actress, singer, model and film. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.89.178 ( talk) 14:45, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
Another song relating to Marilyn Monroe is unmentioned in the current Wiki article about Marilyn Monroe. It is regarding Marilyn Monroe's & John Fitzgerald Kennedy's affair. It was released in 1988. This song was originally recorded in French, by Vanessa Paradis. It was written by Etienne Roda-Gil and Franck Langolff and can be viewed here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtFjwNhyKGs There is also an English version, also performed by Vanessa Paradis, that didn't translate all that well-it can be viewed here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvc8gAnix8w
Here are links to the appropriate Wiki pages regarding Vanessa Paradis: /info/en/?search=Vanessa_Paradis /info/en/?search=Vanessa_Paradis_discography /info/en/?search=M%26J and another, in French, directly relating to the song: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_et_John
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I am appalled that the article talks about Monroe's supposed "miscarriage," yet the article does not even mention that Monroe herself is quoted saying that her babies did not actually die, but they were taken from her and the miscarriage was a hoax. You would think that would be significant enough to add to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.177.116.117 ( talk) 13:12, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Wasn't Marilyn Monroe's grave found to be empty? I believe that speculation of her still being alive, perhaps living in Nova Scotia, is notable enough to add to the article. I believe the likelihood that Monroe faked her own death is very high, especially considering the FBI 2006 release. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.177.116.117 ( talk) 12:52, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Marilyn Monroe was the Face Model for Lara Croft Games (Legend, Anniversary and Underworld). http://www.morphthing.com/celebrity/42190638-Marilyn-Monroe-Angelina-Jolie-Lara-Croft — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.246.215.221 ( talk) 11:24, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
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An offer from a neighborhood family to adopt her was proposed, but Gladys rejected the offer.
Please change to "A neighborhood family offered to adopt Monroe, but Gladys rejected the offer."
Passive voice.
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While attending Van Nuys High School, she met a neighbor's son, James Dougherty (more commonly referred to as simply "Jim"), and began a relationship with him.
Please change to "While attending Van Nuys High School, she met a neighbor's son, James "Jim" Dougherty, and began a relationship with him."
Awkward phrasing, make consistent with rest of article (see "Ervin Silliman "Doc" Goddard")
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With few options left, Grace approached Dougherty's mother and suggested that Jim marry her so that she would not have to return to an orphanage or foster care, as she was two years below the California legal age.
Suggest changing to "With few options left, Grace approached Dougherty's mother and suggested that Jim marry Monroe so that she would not have to return to an orphanage or foster care."
Pronoun confusion. The original sounds like Grace suggested Jim marry his own mother. Also, I am not sure what "California legal age" refers to, so I suggest striking it (or clarifying).
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After Monroe's stardom, 20th Century Fox began claiming that Monroe's only line in the film had been cut out, an anecdote Monroe repeated on Person to Person in 1955, but film historian James Haspiel says her line is intact and she also appears in a shot with herself and another woman paddling a canoe.
Suggest "After Monroe's stardom, 20th Century Fox began claiming that Monroe's only line in the film had been cut out, an anecdote Monroe repeated on Person to Person in 1955, but film historian James Haspiel says her line is intact and she also appears in a shot paddling a canoe with another woman."
Awkward phrasing ("paddling a canoe with herself")
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