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It would be useful if whomever placed the 'Citations Needed' tag on this article stated where they think citations are missing! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Triskele Jim ( talk • contribs) 17:45, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, the TAMU history page that should be added back to the links section can be used to specifically cite the history section. Furthermore, additional documents should be cited, including Standard Highway Signs (which IIRC has the font specification). Also a bit funny that font isn't hyperlinked to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FHWA_Series_fonts. Jpgs ( talk) 14:56, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
I don't believe it's appropriate to throw a cite at Wikipedia:EL and start deleting external links in batches. Might be better to have some discussion first. Yes, weed out the irrelevant and spam, but don't just throw a bunch out based on your own personal opinions as to what's 'relevant'. I've reverted the deletions until some discussion can be had. RCMoeur ( talk) 15:36, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I strongly disagree that some of the links are only "tangentially relevant". The Texas A&M link http://tcd.tamu.edu/documents/MUTCD_History.htm is all about the MUTCD and its historical development, and contains published papers that could also be used to solve the citation issue. R.C. Moeur's site http://www.trafficsign.us/ is an accessible way for the general public to access information in the MUTCD; he is a working professional and has contributed to Usenet and the Web for well over a decade. His a transportation engineer, and member of the NUTCD, which produces the MUTCD. Finally, the roeadgeek fonts http://www.triskele.com/roadgeek-fonts are well established as freely available open fonts to FHWA specification used by the MUTCD (technically specified in one of the auxiliary documents to which this article ought to refer; this article is incorrect to state that the fonts themselves are specified in the MUTCD). I do agree that Web sites of sign manufacturers and collectors are not appropriate for the links section. So, unless there is reasoned disagreement, I'm going to add these three links back. Jpgs ( talk) 14:52, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
The 2009 MUTCD is now out, so the article graphics should be updated to those from the '09 edition. Mapsax ( talk) 00:35, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
At the bottom of this page (which is listed in the External Links section of the article), there are links to old MUTCDs either on that site or elsewhere on the web. Those could be used to flesh out the History section. Mapsax ( talk) 07:09, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
Michigan has state supplement the map is wrong
http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/knowledge/natl_adopt_2000_2003.htm St8fan ( talk) 10:13, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
§ Other jurisdictions includes the sentences
At first sight this seems to be contradictory, since there has been no previous distinction made between guide signs and warning signs. Although the difference seems clear once the reader thinks about it, explicit definitions based on or quoted from the Manual would spare the reader that unnecessary mental detour.
Thnidu ( talk) 23:47, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
to direct them to cities, towns, villages, or other important destinations, to identify nearby rivers and streams, parks, forests, and historical sites, and generally to give such information as will help them along their way in the most simple, direct manner possible. [1]
The virtual presentation The Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices for Streets and Highways (MUTCD) – General Overview of Proposed Changes 3-18-21_1 says that the named should be pronounced "M-U-T-C-D" and not as a combination of letters. I would cite it but it's tough to isolate the frame that says it (there's a PDF linked but that's tough to isolate, too), so it might not be worth it for something that's probably trivia, but it's there in case it becomes an issue. Mapsax ( talk) 23:20, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
The newsgroups reporting on this change seem to stem from The Guardian
here. As much as it's a verifiable source, their news bait with the title is what isn't described in the article. They actually provide a better context about the MUTCD:
Under the new guidelines, which were laid out in a new 1,100-page manual on America’s signs and other traffic-control devices, signs cannot display messages intended to be humorous or with pop culture references, or anything that could “diminish respect for the sign”.
The MUTCD never states signs cannot display messages intended to be humorous or with pop culture references and in Section 2L.02 (pages 510 and 511) mentions:
01 CMS shall display only traffic operational, regulatory, warning, and guidance information except as otherwise provided in this Chapter. Advertising or other messages not related to traffic control shall not be displayed on a CMS or on its supports or other equipment.
02 CMS may display traffic safety campaign messages (see Section 2L.07), transportation-related messages, emergency homeland security messages, and America’s Missing: Broadcast Emergency Response (AMBER) alert messages, all as provided for in this Chapter.
03 Transportation-related messages for the purpose of improving traffic conditions, such as those providing information on alternative means of transportation, electronic toll collection, or carpooling may be displayed to remind or inform drivers of relevant options or opportunities for transportation.
04 Messages regarding broader transportation items not related to improving traffic conditions, such as reminders of driver’s license or vehicle registration renewal, vehicle recall information, and vehicle maintenance, do not meet the purpose of a transportation-related message.
It could be something the feds might look into further but it never states "banning", it's about bringing into compliance. The 2026 date comes from the standard 2 years after publishing the newest edition of MUTCD (unless the compliance date is specifically mentioned in Table 1B-1).
tldr; much ado about nothing – The Grid ( talk) 14:13, 25 January 2024 (UTC)