Added a link to International Institute of Social History, Amsterdam for the calculation of the purchasing power of the fl 60,- expended to "buy" Manhattan - at http://www.iisg.nl/hpw/calculate.php 77.169.208.232 ( talk) 14:41, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
How many entry/exit points are there too the island of Manhattan IAmTheCoinMan ( talk) 18:43, 1 October 2009 (UTC)?
I think the population of the county for 2000 should be put in the infobox (not just a 2008 estimate). (I cannot edit the box correctly myself.) The 2000 population should be put in the first paragraph of the article, replacing the 2008 estimate. hello ( talk) 09:37, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
I kind of see this article as a borderline case in terms of notability. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.98.192.95 ( talk) 00:13, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Page lists width of city block "avenue side" as 600 feet, but this is plainly not the case. In fact, it conflicts with the Wikipedia entry on "city block," which says it's 900 feet. As a walking New Yorker, I suspect the true length is 900 feet, and this can be verified on Google maps. 71.4.254.124 ( talk) 17:39, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Could someone with access to the right statistics please check the area, population and population density figures in the infobox. I can't get the math to work and think one of the figures must be wrong. Sidefall ( talk) 08:00, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
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There are two different coordinates on this page that are given for Manhattan. The topmost one is in the middle of Central Park. The other one, lower down, is located at the intersection of Broadway and 4th Street. Shouldn't these both be the same? What is the geographic center of Manhattan's boundaries? Several sites give 40° 42' 51" N, 74°0' 23" W as the center of New York City, but that is not the center of Manhattan.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Danallen46 ( talk • contribs) 02:21, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
Acc to Final Jeopardy a few days ago, Manhattan is the smallest island with more than 1 million people - a status it has had since 1890-- JimWae ( talk) 20:25, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
hurricane sandy does not rate it's own heading under history, especially if the great one of '38, which caused even greater flooding and a 100% power failure to the whole city, is not even mentioned at all in the article. Snertking ( talk) 19:38, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
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How can the article claim a settlement date of 1624 and then begin by saying it was long inhabited by the Lenape people? 69.127.113.240 ( talk) 02:10, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
I attempted to correct this phrase by changing "Rivers" to "rivers," since the three rivers exist independently of one another and so their names do not apply to the rivers collectively. Apparently an automatic program reverted this change, and I have no idea how to complain about it, except here. My correction was absolutely proper. Rontrigger ( talk) 02:58, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
Industry insider websites and various citation sources have indicated that Silicon Alley, centered in Manhattan, has evolved into high tech industries focusing on the Internet, new media, telecommunications, digital media, software development, game design, and other fields within information technology. There may be other high tech industries, but currently they are not considered part of Silicon Alley. Biotechnology is completely separate from Silicon Alley.
National Venture Capital Association provides statistics about venture capital investments in the NY metropolitan area. Its cited sources ( Industry Stats By Date: Venture Capital Investments Q2 2014 – MoneyTree Results (Regional Data)) do NOT distinguish which industries, including Silicon Alley, receive these investments in the NY metropolitan area.
While centered mostly in Lower Manhattan, Silicon Alley is also in other parts of Manhattan, Queens, and Brooklyn ( Widening Tech 'Alley' Outgrows Its Name: Label Is Giving Way to References to Submarkets like Chelsea, Flatiron/Madison Square)
If anyone has suitable sources to update this information, please provide it. 67.84.204.32 ( talk) 16:27, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
should we include that the population of manhattan (1,626,159) is approximately 12% of new york state's total population (19,651,127)? i think that could be useful information. let me know. GoGatorMeds ( talk) 16:39, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
It'd be nice if the island's characteristics were included in the info box like larger pieces of geography. One question I don't have answered, is what's the tallest point/highest natural elevation on Manhattan Island? ie: is global warming going to take out the *whole* island, or just most of it?
~ender 2010-04-12 21:50:PM MST
What is the size of the whole island (and not just the borough)? The map of the whole island, etc. are also missing. 88.192.19.110 ( talk) 10:38, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
This article, NYC, and all its borough articles have a long history of users scrubbing any images that seem to capture the fullness and denseness of NYC such as these:
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So enjoy them while you can.. because wikipedians are persistent about deleting larger fuller scope images of NYC and confining it only to smaller scope photos such as this:
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At the risk of getting a lecture, what's wrong with the picture used when the article attained GA status? [1] -- NeilN talk to me 08:17, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
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Can anyone tell if photo 1 was run through filters? [2] I like the colors but my preference is always for a unfiltered (i.e., unInstagrammed) shot for Wikipedia articles. -- NeilN talk to me 19:45, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
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Hi, in
Manhattan, on the "Eduacation and scholarly activites" section, could you please change " Yeshiva University, and a part of Hofstra University and Fordham University campuses. " to "Yeshiva University, Fordham University, and a part of Hofstra University campus." According to Fordham's website, it has two main campuses
[3]. Fordham has an 8 acre campus in Manhattan that includes general undergraduate Fordham college
[4], both graduate and undergarduate business schools
[5], School of law, School of social work, Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, School of Continuing and Professional Studies and School of Education.
[6]. Its a full campus with many buildings. As for Hofstra, they have executive MBA classes inside a room at
Manhattan Eye, Ear and Throat Hospital in Manhattan.
[7] That might not be classified as a campus.--
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A campus is somewhere to learn and educate. Where there are Hofstra employees and students. Checks all the marks. Even if you don't agree Hofstra should still be mentioned because it does offer these programs and classes in Manhattan NYC. Its under higher education and scholarly acticity , seems to fit. AlaskanNativeRU ( talk) 21:40, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
1. the grounds and buildings of a university, college, or school; 2. a university, college, or school viewed as an academic, social, or spiritual entity. Because the university rents, but doesn't own any grounds or properties in Manhattan, it is not a campus. Epic Genius ( talk) ± 02:29, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
One of the ugliest pictures of Manhattan I've ever seen. Please change to this: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Manhattan_Picture.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dylancatlow ( talk • contribs) 19:19, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
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According to some sources the name Manhattan comes from “Manahachtanienk“ which means “place where we all got drunk“ [1]. I have no idea if this is an urban myth or based on facts but maybe someone has reliable sources to prove or disprove it. Nonetheless I guess even if it is only an urban legend it is worth mentioning. Ogmios ( talk) 15:18, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
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This doesn't make sense. Just because some people in the general area of New York use "the city" when they happen to be heading in the direction of Manhattan, that doesn't make it a nickname for Manhattan. "Big Apple" for New York works because there it clearly means New York. But, I've never heard a Manhattanite say "I'm from The City" when asked where they're from in Paris or London. -- regentspark ( comment) 13:59, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
I agree with the sentiment that Manhattan is not by itself referred to "the city". It is only really used in that fashion from the immediate metro area, meaning the four boroughs, and only then because the outer boroughs are less densely populated. Even from just outside city limits, one could argue that they really do mean NYC proper when they say The City. It can refer to either Manhattan or entire NYC in that sense. 100.12.206.41 ( talk) 00:36, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
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the whites has rised while the non-hispanic whites and the hispanics declined. How can it be? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.57.205.60 ( talk) 04:43, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
Is Midtown South a bona fide region of Manhattan, and is it appreciable in the image below?
Colliers International, one of the biggest global commercial real estate services firms, believes it is, as is seen on on pages 8 and 10 of this file to the extent that the firm compiles intricate real estate research and statistics on Midtown South separately from Midtown. Clearly there is a large geographic swath between Midtown and Downtown, and that has come to be known as Midtown South. I belive it is visualized adequately in this image, south of the Empire State Building, while User:Alansohn believes this. Given that this article is Manhattan, and not New York City, I feel it would be remiss not to describe such a significantly large geographic area of Manhattan, and I believe that the best (and perhaps only) way to illustrate this relatively low-rise area is to show it aerially between Midtown and Downtown. Do people support or oppose inclusion of Midtown South in the caption of this image on the page which otherwise mentions the Empire State Building and One World Trade Center? Castncoot ( talk) 02:49, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
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I am going through the old GA requests and one was requested for this article in
March 2017. The edit summary was worst GA I've seen-some lacks of refs, huge/many imgs, ed section just a list, poor fmt, etc.
. As someone who has been dealing with lots of GA requests I can safely say it is far from the worst GA I have ever seen. Normally I would just remove the request, but this is a big, important article so thought I would give
Ɱ a chance to elaborate. Remember it must be judged against the
WP:GACR. Images, formatting and presence of lists do not necessarily disqualify an article from Good Status. Personally I have some issues with the size of the article, but it falls (just) within acceptable limits. I dislike the puffery in the lead, but it is not as bad as it has been on other similar articles. Overall I think it is fine to keep its status.
AIRcorn
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I came across this article through the GAR request template added a year ago by
Ɱ.
[11] My first thoughts was that it was a pretty good article, in fact I still think it is a pretty good article. However there are major issues with the lead. I detailed these thoughts on the talk page before opening the reassessment (
Talk:Manhattan#GAR request). To clarify, part of the Good Article criteria is that the article
complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation
. Unfortunately this one does not meet the lead requirement as it does not summarize the body of the article with appropriate weight
. If we divide the articles body up by percentage we have roughly.
Now the lead does not have to match this exactly, but when one sentence (~4% of the lead) covers the history the appropriate weight is wrong. Geography is also under represented. By comparison over 25% of the lead revolves around the economy. Outside the infobox in some cases there is no information on geology, climate, government or infrastructure.
There is also a lot of cites in the lead, a red flag for unique information added that is not in the body. Of these 28 are not repeated in the body.
Another issue is the
WP:Puffery. Sentences like Manhattan is often described as the cultural, financial, media, and entertainment capital of the world
and New York City has been called both the most economically powerful city and the leading financial center of the world
don't really belong in the lead as written. I have come across worse in New York articles and would probably overlook this if it wasn't rated a Good Article. It would probably be alright if this was mentioned in the actual body of the article by expanding on these descriptions. You could argue that articles from The New York Times describing New York as the foo capital of the world
are biased, but seeing as we use described it is not so bad.
There may be other issues, but to my mind the major issue is the lead and if that is sorted I will be happy. However, if other editors want to bring up additional issues then they are welcome.
Note: Usually I conduct these reviews as individual assessments, but I have conflicted with a major editor of this article in the past, so thought it best to keep this as a community review. AIRcorn (talk) 09:18, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation(bolding mine)
summarize the body of the article with appropriate weight
Some of the best known New York City public high schools are located in Manhattan, including Beacon High School, Stuyvesant High School, Fiorello H. LaGuardia High School, High School of Fashion Industries, Eleanor Roosevelt High School, NYC Lab School, Manhattan Center for Science and Mathematics, Hunter College High School, and High School for Math, Science and Engineering at City College. Bard High School Early College, a hybrid school created by Bard College, serves students from around the city.Obviously if you searched all these high schools you'd know they are in Manhattan, but then we run the risk of WP:CITEKILL. epicgenius ( talk) 17:23, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
Manhattan is often described as the cultural, financial, media, and entertainment capital of the worldand
New York City has been called both the most economically powerful city and the leading financial center of the world. For the cultural, etc while there are five RS most of them basically seem to be New York sources or people calling New York that. I think perhaps with some different sourcing this phrase could be saved and does provide important context. For the comment about being called the most economically powerful I don't think the LEAD really loses anything if that close is removed. Ideally those are both fixed but their mere presence wouldn't be enough to remove GA status. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 15:24, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Given that there has been no comments in 4 weeks and my status as UNINVOLVED per the Guidelines for community reassessment discussion (as I've only participated in the GAR review process and did not nominate it for GAR) I am judging consensus to be keep. Because I did weigh in on the topic, despite this action being OK by the guidelines, I wish to give other editors a chance to either further discuss the article or disagree with my reading of consensus before I formally close it. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 07:49, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
Why does Manhattan Island not have its own article? I know this has been touched on in previous discussion sections, but I could not find a clear reason. The borough and island are not coextensive. Just as the political entity and island are distinguished in the case of Ireland (the Republic of Ireland and Ireland, respectively), as well as the historical political entity and island of Great Britain (the Kingdom of Great Britain and Great Britain, respectively), so the political entity and island of Manhattan should be distinguished. If they were coextensive with each other, then the merge would make sense, but they are not. Thoughts? Michipedian ( talk) 05:40, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
please remove me from this conversation Beyond My Ken mekes me sick, and I have no desire to continue to be exposed to him in any way, please do not force me to interact with him this conversation is as far as I am concerned over, please disregard my comments concerns or my photo, I would rather it not be used, thank you! — Preceding
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For context this has to do with recent map removals in this article, as well as the Brooklyn, The Bronx, Queens and Staten Island articles.
@ ImprovedWikiImprovment: I'm opening this discussion because it seems other editors, e.g. Alansohn and Castncoot, may find the maps of New York state, the USA, and Earth to be helpful. Would it be better if we used an interactive map using {{ maplink}} (drawing the boundaries of each borough using JSON and then placing it as a mapframe map within the infobox)? That way people could zoom in or out as they wish. epicgenius ( talk) 20:11, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
@ Epicgenius:Nope. I didn’t remove the state maps in either. Look more closely. IWI ( chat) 22:05, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
Lol I wondered what you were talking about, sorry that's my eyesight (last reply that I reverted) Yes Epicgenius, that would be helpful. IWI ( chat) 08:09, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
Indeed. IWI ( chat) 08:24, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
Excellent, except for what you mentioned, I can't see an issue. IWI ( chat) 19:41, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
Infobox says the county is 22.83 square miles (land), article says the island is 22.7 square miles. How did Wards, Randalls, Roosevelt, Governors, Liberty, Mill Rock, U Thant and original Ellis Islands and Marble Hill put together shrink to ~0.13 square miles? The actual island's fairly close to 21 square miles (about a half square kilometer more if counting perforations like Central Park Reservoir, Lake, Pond, etc) Sagittarian Milky Way ( talk) 20:49, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
@ Castncoot and Midwestman1986: I think we could include the fact that the city in Kansas is named after this borough in the "etymology" section, as the city in Kansas is a namesake of this borough. However, is including the population overkill? epicgenius ( talk) 06:10, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
I think it’s a good thing because there’s also other manhattans in other states which are small townships of like 100 people. They are not important or significant. Theres like 7 manhattans or something but Manhattan Kansas is the only one that actuality became anything. It’s a Big college town. It’s where Kansas State University is. Plus it’s named after this borough do I think it belongs on this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Midwestman1986 ( talk • contribs) 06:29, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
I’ve been there twice. There’s also another college there called Manhattan area technical college and K state has a big football stadium and a basketball arena. It’s jusr strange it’s called Manhattan but kinda funny. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Midwestman1986 ( talk • contribs) 06:48, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
But it puts it more into scale. It’s like the 8th largest city in Kansas. It has Manhattan Christian college, Manhattan technical university and Kansas state university. It has a soccer stadium, relatively large football stadium and a basketball arena. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Midwestman1986 ( talk • contribs) 21:12, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
list Manhattan, Kansas as a see also. This is about a city that's 3% of the size of the NYC borough. Details re "Little Apple" belong in that article, not here, and there are no sources in the Manhattan, Kansas article about the derivation of the name. This is why I think the inclusion of scale needs to be discussed, and whether we should include the Kansas locality's population at all. epicgenius ( talk) 02:40, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Ok we agree removed 1/30 th the size good compromise. But leave the population — Preceding unsigned comment added by Midwestman1986 ( talk • contribs) 03:09, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Do you think it looks better now? It’s in history 19th century — Preceding unsigned comment added by Midwestman1986 ( talk • contribs) 05:55, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
I wasn’t trying to “dupe”. I’m saying in regards to it be the largest city in the nation — Preceding unsigned comment added by Midwestman1986 ( talk • contribs) 06:04, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Ok I added that 4cities in the USA are named Manhattan. The largest being Manhattan Kansas under etymology — Preceding unsigned comment added by Midwestman1986 ( talk • contribs) 06:33, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Explain to me why you have such A big problems with me putting that under etymology? It fits perfectly and is referenced . I’m adding to the page , that’s the entire point of Wikipedia. I get some of the other points you made but this last edit makes sense. I’m not trying to push anything I’m just trying to find a good spot to put Manhattan Kansas. I’ve. Even there like twice in my life. You’re just trying to get me blocked or something. So tell me why you removed that?
So I’m going to put that back on there soon. It is comlpetepy relevant to etymology. You change things without going on the talk page too
You seem to be the only one who disageees that it doesn’t fit well under etymology. Why do you care so much? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Midwestman1986 ( talk • contribs) 20:41, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Ok you keep removing it without using the talk page and then you don’t respond to the talk page and accuse me of not using the talk page . I’m going to put it back up in a few hours. It fits well and is well sourced information adding to the pages contents.
New York investors in the land company played a substantial role in naming Manhattan for the new town.So it is tangentially relevant, but not enough to warrant adding more than a sentence. And then, I don't think that "etymology" is the best place for this, as it's more like a namesake.
Also, I would like to note that Manhattan, NY is not a city, C.Fred, though we in the outer boroughs like to pretend that it is . epicgenius ( talk) 04:07, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
Be advised that Midwestman1986 has been blocked indefinitely for sock-puppetry and abusive editing. Grey Wanderer ( talk) 23:06, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
Many years ago I was informed by editors and administrators alike that the consensus on the use on flags in infoboxes was that "settlements" are not an exception, and after a random glance at towns of all sizes across the world it appears most editors are compliant. However, their removal to this article has been reverted by
Alansohn with the following edit summary: "rv chg per MOS:INFOBOXFLAG re use for populated places)", and although
MOS:INFOBOXFLAG does say Where one article covers both human and physical geographic subjects (e.g., Manhattan, which covers both the borough of New York City and the island of the same name), or where the status of the territory is subject to a political dispute, the consensus of editors at that article will determine whether flag use in the infobox is preferred or not.
, there appears to have been no debate on this or consensus reached.
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The references given for above statement in the lead either don't support the assertion at all, refer to the wider New York, or are the opinion of a single journalist. I think there's a particular problem with the word 'often'. I suggest removing the statement. Previously, I've come across these accolades in connection with New York, but never in connection with Manhattan. Silas Stoat ( talk) 16:34, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
Ref 1: A month later, the extraordinary devastation of a 16-acre tract in Lower Manhattan has become almost an accepted condition by a city turning its attention to war. Nearly 260,000 tons of debris, about a fifth of the total, has been carted away, much of it to be pored over in the Fresh Kills landfill in Staten Island by investigators looking for evidence and body parts. A roaring void has been created in the financial center of the world. This is ambiguous. It could be referring to NY or Manhattan.
Ref 2: In 1980 there were still the vestigial remains of the various downtown revolutions that had reinvigorated New York’s music and art scenes and kept Manhattan in the position it had occupied since the 1940s as the cultural center of the world. This one seems OK.
Ref 3: As the Archbishop of the media and cultural center of the United States. An inappropriate reference for the claim being made. The text refers to the US, not the world.
Ref 4: Manhattan May Be the Media Capital of the World, But Not For iPad Users. One journalist said this in 2010, and hedged his bets by saying maybe.
Ref 5: Ready your rainbows and strap on those pumps, New York City Pride will be seen live in fabulous living color this year. ..... Never before has any TV station in the entertainment and news media capital of the world carried what organizer boast is the world’s largest Pride parade live on TV. One journalist made this assertion in 2017, but it's unclear what location is being referred to as "entertainment and news media capital of the world". It could be either NY or Manhattan.
In the single case where it's clear, and in the cases where there's doubt, it is only ever the opinion of one journalist. The major problem is the use of the word often, but overall, the references don't support the assertion. Silas Stoat ( talk) 13:13, 10 March 2019 (UTC)