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174.250.208.24 ( talk) 11:34, 10 October 2022 (UTC) Could somebody please archive this rather lengthy page so we can start anew with discussion on a way to make this article better than it is? Also, I am assuming that "the month" referred to is November 2008. Correct? Yours in happiness with all things Angel-ic, I remain, GeorgeLouis ( talk) 03:28, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
The two areas that I see need the most work are the History and Neighborhood Councils sections. The history sections is poorly balanced, devoting too much space to the founding, and not enough to the 20th century. It omits the Watts Riot, which was important to the whole country, but mentions gentrification, which is common and less remarkable. The Neighborhood Councils section is unreferenced and too long anyway. They are not major centers of powers in the city, and while some fist fights make it into the press they're otherwise ignored. The section can probably be pared down to a sentence or two in the government section. Otherwise the articles seems fairly well-balanced. While I'm fond of the flora section, I'm wondering if it should be cut - plants are regional by their nature so it's not a city-specific topic. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 09:26, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
WHy does the the term LA LA Land redirect here? There's not mention of the "LA LA Land" in the article. If anything this refers to an idyllic location, a fantasy world. Lihaas ( talk) 15:47, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
It has been proposed that Los Angeles County, California be moved to Los Angeles County. See discussion and survey at Talk:Los_Angeles_County,_California#Requested_move. -- Born2cycle ( talk) 17:18, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
What do local Los Angelinos call there city? I used to live there and I recall lɑs ˈændʒɪlɪs. Any other options? ( Taivo ( talk) 00:10, 13 December 2008 (UTC))
As another native of Southern California (and as a linguist), I would say that the local (and General Western US) pronunciation of the city's name is [lɑˈsændʒɨlɨs]. For speakers of North American dialects with an open o, I've heard [lɔˈsændʒɨlɨs]. The pronunciation listed in the article ([lɒˈsændʒɨlɨs]) reflects a pronunciation that happens to match the British (RP) version, but I'm pretty sure it's there simply because it represents a pronunciation from which other dialectal pronunciations can be derived (not because it's British). I think we can keep it as it is, unless someone wants to add the "local" (General Western) pronunciation. -- SameerKhan ( talk) 06:05, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you mean by "just", "cool", and "Coors" being pronounced with the same vowel in Western American English... I can maybe see how (in connected speech) "just" might be pronounced with an unstressed (and maybe lax) [ɨ], but not "cool" or "Coors", which would have a tense, stressed, pressed-lips [ʉ] instead of a spread-lips [ɨ]. The use of [ɨ] to represent a reduced vowel near coronal sounds in English is fairly common, although I agree, since there is no phonemic [ɨ], it's probably more appropriate to be a little more vague and just use a schwa (even if it is phonetically closer to [ɨ]). -- SameerKhan ( talk) 06:40, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
I see. I've never heard that, but then again I don't spend a lot of time in the rural west! It is interesting though; do you know of a reference for this? Thanks! -- SameerKhan ( talk) 07:36, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
The German version of Wikipedia references http://www.laalmanac.com/history/hi03b.htm with the claim that the name was not originally "El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles de la Porciúncula" as stated in the English version (but "El Pueblo de la Reina de Los Angeles"). 85.177.250.89 ( talk) 17:49, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
The population of Los Angeles right now is 4,045,000. So can you please change it to this amount. It says this is Los Angeles's popuation on the southern california wikipedia page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.18.141.81 ( talk) 01:28, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
"The City of Los Angeles, California's largest city, has a population of 4,045,873" -California Department of Finance, 2008
If the CDF is not a reliable source, then what is? The US Census Bureau? There were so many problems with the 2000 US Census that some demographers have estimated that the census numbers were "off" by 5-10%. No source is fully accurate and, therefore, for the sake of providing up-to-date information (a Wikipedia priority), the population figure should be updated to the 2008 figure provided by the CDF. LA's Jan 1, 2008 population certainly wasn't exactly 4,045,873, but the 2006 figure of 3.8 million is hardly relevant considering LA's population has been increasing 30,000 to 50,000 each year since 2000.
What is more important to Wikipedia: the source of the information or the relevance of the information?
The CDF, by Wikipedia's definition, is a reliable source and also provides relevant, accurate, and up-to-date information. That's as good as it gets in the imperfect world of statistics.
BDS2006 ( talk) 20:02, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Are we going to have this ****ing debate again? Vgranucci ( talk) 21:59, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
It would seem that someone edited the article and switched the populations of the metro and urban populations of Los Angeles. The metropolitan population should be around 13 million and the urban population should be around 18 million. I am unable to correct the article, (it is semi-protected) so if someone else could that would be great! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cgadams ( talk • contribs) 19:31, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
It doesn't make sense to state the city's subway system is the 9th busiest, and the light rail line is the 3rd busiest. This is exactly the same system, as some of the light rail lines eventually go underground as subway stations for a few stops. This is also true in Chicago and New York, as most of their lines are elevated for a portion of the route, and then are subwayed on other portions. But they do not rank ridership based on the elevated and subway portions. It would be more appropriate to just rank Los Angeles based on ridership of its rapid transit system versus other cities. Some cities, like Chicago and New York, have heavy rail; while some cities, like Los Angeles and Portland, have light rail. Since both types are rapid transit, they can be compared together when ranking cities by ridership. To a lesser degree, it may be okay to rank by ridership of light rail only; although that may not give the reader an accurate perception as most people do not really think heavy rail or light rail, they just think of rapid transit, train service, or L service. But it doesn't make sense to rank ridership by elevated platforms and subway platforms of the same line. That's just wrong.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.192.176.30 ( talk) 20:34, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) To clarify on this issue, the Red Line is not a light rail line. It's considered "heavy rail," like the New York and Chicago systems. All other Metro Rail lines are considered light rail. Therefore, it makes perfect sense to separate statistics between the Red Line and other Metro Rail services. szyslak ( t) 21:42, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
This article gets vandalized so much it's funny that the entire section about freeways was taken out about five months ago and no one noticed. This is Los Angeles! THE CITY OF FREEWAYS, PEOPLE! -- Coolcaesar ( talk) 09:48, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
The intro calls it a "beta+ world city". This seems like the arbitrary opinion of one particular study. It's not defined on this page or the world city page. It's certainly not a well-known term. Neither New York City nor London feels the need to list their alpha++ status. I think it should be removed.
128.111.8.104 ( talk) 23:14, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
I just clicked on reference 85 and it's a half-dead link. The link goes to another page but that page doesn't have the information. —Preceding
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Los Angeles Convention & Visitors Bureau
The link above should be www.discoverlosangeles.com
Wkarz999 ( talk) 01:42, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
The Music of Los Angeles article should be merged into this article. Music of Los Angeles is short enough that it could be merged in with little trouble. -- An Enormous Laser Beam ( talk) 18:22, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Robinsons-May is no longer an independent company. It has been bought out by Federated. The stores have been renamed Macy's as you can note by visiting the Westside Pavilion.
Cosus ( talk) 00:56, 30 June 2009 (UTC)Michael, 6/29/09
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This page says there are three public universities within the city limits, but fails to mention California State University Dominguez Hills!? Please add CSUDH to the list!
The words may be Spanish but no one speaking English cares about that. Will you next put the Native American pronunciation by Manhattan? :) Ykral ( talk) 12:37, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Spanish Angel is "el ángel" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.77.231.97 ( talk) 08:53, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Other California city entries (e.g. smaller cities in Orange County) include either political party affiliation percentages, General Election results or at least a political overview of the city itself. Where is the relevant political data for LA?
˜˜˜˜Jackson Bliss —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacksonbliss ( talk • contribs) 17:03, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Hey the full name of L.A. is "El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Angeles de Porciuncula" do anyone wants that in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.217.148.153 ( talk) 22:12, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Also, I doubt Los Angeles translates to "Valley of smoke", as the Enviromental Issues section states. Someone should remove or update this to link to a credible source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.159.190.51 ( talk) 20:23, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
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Can you please add this information.
Los Angeles's full name is "El Pueblo de Nuestra Senora la Reina de los Angeles de Porciuncula" --and can be abbreviated to 3.63% of its size: L.A. Source
http://www.rateitall.com/i-726711-los-angeless-full-name-is-el-pueblo-de-nuestra-senora-la-reina-de-los-angeles-de-porciuncula-and-can-be-abbreviated-to-363-of-its-size-la.aspx and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_long_place_names
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Japanchildren (
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The Woman's Pro Soccer team, the Los Angeles Sol, who play in the Home Depot Center in Carson, should be mentioned under sports for Los Angeles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rforb001 ( talk • contribs) 23:46, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
This article lacks a complete list of the Neighborhood Councils (you may see one in L.A. Department of Neighborhood Empowerment's web site: http://done.lacity.org/ncdatabase/nc_database_public/), and the article List of districts and neighborhoods of Los Angeles is not helpful, being focused more on the communities rather than on the Councils, that are L.A. City's main administrative divisions. A list of them should be added, IMHO, precisely here. 79.30.241.106 ( talk) 10:25, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Hello can you please update this article of Los Angeles? Please remove some of those old pics of LA's skyline snd add new ones with it's skyline in 2009. Also put in more pics and talk more about Hollywood and make the article appealing. Other cities articles are constructed beter than LA's and they have more pictures and information about that city. Why is LA lagging in this department? So please UPDATE!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.176.197.128 ( talk) 22:41, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
jerodam12 09/03/09 3:46 PM —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.176.197.128 ( talk) 22:44, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I would like to bring this issue up again my last post wasn't signed right. Can you please update this article of Los Angeles? Please remove some of those old pics of LA's skyline snd add new ones with it's skyline in 2009. Also put in more pics and talk more about Hollywood and make the article appealing. Other cities articles are constructed beter than LA's and they have more pictures and information about that city. Why is LA lagging in this department? So please UPDATE!!
Also can you add a section in this article talking about LA's beaches, and some urban parks (e.g. Griffith park and observatory, MacArthur park, Echo Park) and please add a section showing Beverly Hills and Bel Air, and showing diffrent famous roads in LA like Melorse Ave, Sunset Strip, Willshire, etc. Also please show a section with LA culture and museums and neighborhoods which could show... Museums: The Getty, LACMA, MOCA. Diverse neighborhoods: Koreatown, Chinatown, Little Tokyo, Little Ethiopia, filipino town, etc. Also other cultured events like parades: the little Tokyo parade and chinatown parades, rose bowl parade, Hollywood parade, etc And please display these sections with pictures. Than you and please consider adding these sections. Every other city has a long page show casing their city's amenities so why can't LA's article do the same thing? Please add these sections it would beef the LA section article up. This article needs to be aesthetically addressed, and given the proper fairness every other city and their article gets, thank you. Jerodam12 ( talk) 16:58, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
ok thiss so starnge i cant find the ecosystem nd it complicating bcuz its due this friday nd im so behind. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.85.129.50 ( talk) 22:41, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
I saw these old photos & was wondering if you want to add them here: http://thechive.com/2009/02/los-angeles-before-sigalert-31-photos/ ? Stars4change ( talk) 23:41, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Following the Spanish pronunciation for the IPA, Los Angeles would be spelled [lo̞s 'ãɴˈxe̞le̞s].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_phonology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_phonology#Phonetic_notes
Can anyone change it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.3.44.56 ( talk) 12:58, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm thinking it may be appropriate to create a "Landmarks of Los Angeles" article to take the place of the list we currently have. ~ Butros ( Talk) 08:49, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Currently all that is listed are the USPS offices. Should this be expanded to include local FBI and immigration offices? ~ Butros ( Talk) 08:59, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Los Angeles County, California|
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There definitely needs to be a section about the LA River- this page doesn't even mention the word "river!"
http://folar.org/
As a native of Los Angeles, I hate the word "Angelino". I would NEVER call myself that. I find it obnoxious. AThousandYoung ( talk) 20:35, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Highest average high for LA is 76.6 F? How can this possibly be true???
Wilsonbond ( talk) 05:15, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Los Angeles is short for "La Ciudad de la Reina de los Angeles." That means "The City of the Queen of the Angels." Therefore, its nickname "the city of angels" is wrong. Not many people seem to know that. 75.135.76.200 ( talk) 03:19, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
93.172.116.251 ( talk) 20:50, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
It needs permanent semi-protection. I note, for example, that for almost two years there has been no mention of the city's legendary traffic jams since this article has been heavily vandalized. -- Coolcaesar ( talk) 17:59, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
The articles for New York City, Chicago, Phoenix, and Philadelphia state they are the first, the third, the fifth, and the sixth most POPULOUS cities, respectively, in the United States; but the articles for Los Angeles and Houston state they are the second, and fourth LARGEST, respectively? It seems safe to assume that the word "populous" was used so there would be no confusion in the cities rank of their population vs the rank of their land area. New York City is not the nation's largest city in land area, and Chicago is not the third largest in land area, ect. They do, however, hold those ranks population-wise as their articles state. Therefore, it seems the Los Angeles and Houston articles should state they are the second, and fourth most "populous" cities, respectively; not second and fourth "largest" if the intent was to not allow this confusion. After all, the nation's largest city is Anchorage; but not its most populous. If it were me, I would prefer to use the word largest when referring to population, but they does not seem to be the way most of the cities articles read. Therefore, the Los Angeles and Houston articles should be changed to "populous' in the opening remarks to keep it consistent. Or at the very least, just use "largest" for all the other cities articles to keep it consistent with Los Angeles' and Houston's articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.192.176.30 ( talk) 03:06, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Los Angeles is ranked an Alpha World City (-) according to these charts: http://www.lboro.ac.uk/gawc/world2008c.html and http://www.lboro.ac.uk/gawc/world2008t.html. Please update the Los Angeles main page in the "Economy" section of this article (to indicate that LA is an Alpha World City). This information should also be added to the introduction of the article to indicate that LA is an Alpha World City - simply saying it is a "world center" doesn't really indicate the stature of LA, especially in relation to American peers NYC and Chicago, which both have their Alpha status mentioned in the introduction to their Wikipedia pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.187.216.44 ( talk) 16:36, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
The previous montage was just replaced by a new one created by User:The Emirr. Does anyone think this is an improvement? Personally, I think the original one is much better. -- Jleon ( talk) 03:13, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
I cannot believe that anybody did not mention any skateboarders in this article. I think they are basicly over populating the Los angeles area. They're are more pro skateboarders than movie stars in Los Angeles.
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Consider altering Los Angeles from the currently listed population number to the newly released california department of finance number (4.1 million):
Djm19 ( talk) 05:56, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_GDP#United_States_of_America —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.168.143.221 ( talk) 06:51, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
Can someone incorporate the more relevant metric of Los Angeles having the second highest GDP in America, rather than relying on the arbitrary Forbes ranking of the city's economic power? To boot, it can also be mentioned that in terms of global GDP by metro area, Los Angeles only trails New York (2.) and Toyko (1.).
With regards to the above edit request...
Note: Official Census 2000 population numbers and demographics for Los Angeles, including 2008 estimates, can be found at the following links:
Until the 2010 census is complete, I suggest we stick to the Census 2000 numbers instead of using any various estimates. Once the 2010 numbers are available and released we can update the article then. Is everyone in agreement? -- œ ™ 18:23, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
I am in agreement with updating the population to the latest estimate which shows it well over 4 million inhabitants. Based on the low returns of Census 2010 envelopes, even the "Official" 2010 Census is at best, an estimate. It is well known that many undocumented residents do not fill, or are afraid to fill census information due to possible perceived persecution. Not counting these inhabitants is almost pretending that they don't exist. College Watch ( talk) 23:14, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
http://yubanet.com/california/California-Added-393-000-In-2009-Population-Tops-38-6-Million.php
I'm for a version of "4 million" based on Census 2010. These are real data for L.A. Subtropical-man ( talk) 17:21, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Currently the article says: Los Angeles has a Mediterranean climate or Dry-Summer Subtropical (Köppen climate classification Csb on the coast, Csa inland), and receives just enough annual precipitation to avoid Köppen's BSh (warm semi-arid climate) classification. But according to Köppen climate classification the threshold for group B climates is 20 x 17.2 + 0 = 344 mm and the annual precipitation in Los Angeles is 305 mm (below the limit). The climate should be B* or I'm not calculating correctly? -- Nk ( talk) 17:13, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
"The most prevalent botanical environment is coastal sage scrub, which covers the hillsides in combustible chaparral." This is misleading, as Coastal Sage Scrub and Chaparral are two distinct environments, both found in Los Angeles. Also, Chaparral has alot more to offer than combustibility... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.81.235.94 ( talk) 06:09, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
What accounted for the rapid growth in population between 1910 and 1930? The great depression didn't occur until 1929 so that wouldn't have made a huge difference--I would expect. The growth between 1930 and 1940 was much smaller percentage-wise (which might seem surprising since one might predict the Dust Bowl effect would have been greater during the Depression years...)-- 达伟 ( talk) 18:37, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
A new census release has estimated Los Angeles to have over 50% Latino population, the first time since 1860 for the city's Latino population to outnumber the other ethnic groups. This was long predicted since the 1920's, but I recall a National Geographic magazine article of Los Angeles (January 1979) wrote comments to sure be deemed "un-PC or xenophobic" about Los Angeles (the city, county or area? non-specified) will develop a Hispanic majority or have mostly Spanish surnamed people (the only major city in the mainland US except Puerto Rico) before the year 2000 and being compared to "Another Quebec, the province of Canada where today French is the official language". I thought the title goes to the border town of El Paso, Texas with over 3/4 of the city and 2/3 of the county are Latino. I also read the magazine's interview with then L.A. city councilman Alberto Juarez predicted at least three (turns out to be five) Spanish-speaking council members and a mayor of Hispanic origin (also came true) will head Los Angeles in the first decade of the 21st century was correct. + 71.102.3.86 ( talk) 10:01, 22 September 2009
Hi, You see on the top of pages say "3,833,995" in July 1, 2009 is made mistake because 2008 is old. Now it is 3,831,868 in 2009. You see U.S. Census Estimate 2009, 2000 and 1990 You can edit it. Thank you. Ross Degenstein ( Talk) -- 208.107.123.63 ( talk) 02:38, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
"The summer's season lasts nearly all year round, although during the period from December to April temperatures are alternately - between a fifty several and seventy several degrees Fahrenheit (a dozen or so and twenty-some degrees Celsius) during the day."
This sentence is extremely awkward. Is this typical phrasing in American dialect? I'd suggest something like "The summer season lasts nearly all year round. Between December and April, however, temperatures can alternate between fifty-five and seventy-five degrees Fahrenheit during the day." 99.253.195.150 ( talk) 10:06, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
The Claremont Colleges are not in the City of Los Angeles, but one particularly persistent user is insisting on putting them there. Those distinguished institutions are in fact in Claremont, which is a separate city. I'm somewhat baffled by this insistence; perhaps someone else can attempt to explain. Antandrus (talk) 06:08, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
{{editsemiprotected}} Under History, there is a paragraph:
During the remaining decades of the 20th century, the city was plagued by increasing gang warfare, drug trades, and police corruption. Racial tensions erupted again in 1992 with the Rodney King controversy and the large-scale riots that followed the acquittal of his police attackers. In 1994, the 6.7 Northridge earthquake shook the city, causing $12.5 billion in damage and 72 deaths.[28]
"police corrupiton" should be deleted becuase:
70.134.67.132 ( talk) 16:56, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Like I said, if its true it needs to be cited. Only five officers were terminated. That is not a "plague." It needs to be removed or re-worded. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.134.67.132 ( talk) 05:13, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Partly done: I've added a {{ dubious}} there, when consensus is achieved here, someone will change it, or request an edit again. 930913( Congratulate) 14:31, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Please see Los_Angeles#Demographics:
below write:
and be-eee-low: Hispanics and Latinos make up 48.4% of Los Angeles' population. According to the survey, there were 1,815,005 Hispanics and Latinos residing in Los Angeles. The four main Hispanic/Latino groups were the following:
Do these figures are accurate? Are there sources? Subtropical-man ( talk) 17:40, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
This arbitrary and uncited line in the Geography section is unnecessary and could be cleaned up, there are other examples of major US cities with mountain ranges separating portions of the city limits (Phoenix, El Paso). Should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.8.34.101 ( talk) 15:29, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
{{editsemiprotected}} There should be no period after "the valley of smoke". So Say We All ( talk) 20:22, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
LAX min. temp.
Minimum temperature at LAX downtown was 23F on 9-1-1937 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.9.63.99 ( talk) 14:20, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
Please add this:
On 03/01/2006 Our Lady made this prophecy: "The famous Los Angeles will mourn the death of their children." (See Apelos Urgentes) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.117.72.239 ( talk) 00:25, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
To whom it may concern,
I would like to add my book (below) to the Further Reading section, but I can't because it is semi-protected. How can I do it?
Los Angeles ... is the second most populous city in the United States, [1] the most populous city in the state of California and the western United States, with a population of 3.83 million [2] within its administrative limits on a land area of 498.3 square miles (1,290.6 km2). The urban area of Los Angeles extends beyond the administrative city limits with a population of over 14.8 million and it is the 14th largest urban area in the world, affording it megacity status. [3] The Los Angeles–Long Beach–Santa Ana metropolitan statistical area (MSA) is home to nearly 12.9 million residents [4] while the broader Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside combined statistical area (CSA) contains nearly 17.8 million people. Los Angeles is also the seat of Los Angeles County, the most populated and one of the most multicultural counties [5] in the United States.
In 2010 the London based consultant firm Knight Frank LLP, together with Citibank, published The Wealth Report 2010, which ranked Los Angeles the 5th most powerful and influential city in the world, behind only New York City in the United States. The Wealth Report, which includes the World City Survey, assesses four parameters — economic activity, political power, knowledge and influence and quality of life. [6] The Los Angeles combined statistical area (CSA) has a gross metropolitan product (GMP) of $831 billion (as of 2008), making it the third largest economic center in the world, after the Greater Tokyo Area and the New York metropolitan area. [7] [8] [9]
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Someone's changed it to 15 million, but the article, source and other pages give the more common and accurate number of 12 million. I can't fix it because it's protected so, just letting people know.
Red Hair Bow ( talk) 08:44, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
LAX is no longer the fifth busiest, it should say sixth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.245.36.123 ( talk) 11:44, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Much slower growth than expected —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.76.111.94 ( talk) 04:17, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure why there are contributors animate on making sure Los Angeles doesn't appear to have more than 4 million people. As a Los Angeles resident, the new city limit signs appearing are saying that the population is well over 4 million, and 5 years ago, those signs read 3,957,875. Every decade since the 1920s, the city has grown considerably without any dip in population; 2010 being no exception. Los Angeles has the highest immigrant and non-resident population in the U.S, second only to New York City. There could foreseeably be 4 1/2 million when accounting for those folks. Being a rapidly growing sun-belt region, and a city that continues to sprawl to nearly 500 square miles, I don't logically see how the population stagnated the last decade. Even if there are official tabulations under the 4 million mark, there is no way to be sure of the exact count. Many people refuse to participate or afraid that participation could cause deportation. Intelligent estimates should be considered.
http://www.laobserved.com/archive/2010/04/california_coming_up_on_3.php College Watch ( talk) 08:10, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
Okay so maybe a compromise, showing the official 2010 census followed by a 4 Million+ estimate? College Watch ( talk) 20:00, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
Anyone else think it looked better with the borders? I've always thought that montages look a bit off without them, but there seems to be a few where people have edited out (or never put in) any borders. I was going to revert, but thought I'd ask for thoughts here first. Altormainstream ( talk) 00:27, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
As the article referenced indicates, California as a whole produced one-quarter of the world's oil in 1923, not just Los Angeles. The sentence should read: Oil was discovered in 1892, and by 1923, the discoveries had helped California become the country's largest oil producer, accounting for about one-quarter of the world's petroleum output. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Petefrance ( talk • contribs) 21:49, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
I'm a native and I've always heard residents referred to as "Los Angelenos". — Preceding unsigned comment added by SimplyIrresistible ( talk • contribs) 07:05, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
The current dispute of Los Angeles having a Little Italy can easily be resolved with a source. 08OceanBeachS.D. 20:22, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
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If the existence of Little Italy is disputed, it all depends on sources. This says "there is no publicly-identified "Little Italy" in Los Angeles" which is a pretty firm answer - so the article should not claim that there's a Little Italy, unless of course somebody finds a stronger source elsewhere which claims the opposite - it would have to be quite impressively sourced to outweigh http://www.italianlosangeles.org. bobrayner ( talk) 13:38, 7 May 2011 (UTC)— bobrayner ( talk) 13:38, 7 May 2011 (UTC) |
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Please add a link to its page for "Berlin, Germany" under "Sister cities". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_angeles#Sister_cities ; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin
91.7.194.34 ( talk) 02:04, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
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Where do most of the sikhism live in the LA area? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.97.182.80 ( talk) 22:44, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
-- 98.210.96.51 ( talk) 23:54, 25 August 2011 (UTC)8/25/2011 "The racial makeup of Los Angeles was 1,888,158 (49.8%) White, 365,118 (9.6%) African American, 28,215 (0.7%) Native American, 426,959 (11.3%) Asian, 5,577 (0.1%) Pacific Islander, 902,959 (23.8%) from other races, and 175,635 (4.6%) from two or more races. Hispanics or Latinos of any race were 1,838,822 persons (48.5%)."
Percentage total = 148.4% Percentage total without Hispanics and Latinos of any race = 99.9%
Presentation of population information very unclear.
The LAPD source states 250 gangs but the California Central Disctrict Drug Threat Assessment talks about at least 1350. Which one is right ? see bottom page last paragraph of this link: http://www.justice.gov/ndic/pubs0/668/overview.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.194.217.33 ( talk) 13:11, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
Due to Los Angeles being a sanctuary city and having many international visitors and temporary residents, I feel that the “official population” doesn’t truly reflect the actual one. There is also a large segment of the population on work Visas and questionable immigration status in which they would not voluntarily opt to be counted in the census. These factors are significant and doesn’t seem to be reflected in the article
College Watch ( talk) 19:32, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
The City is under federal investigation for alleged economic crimes involving its dealings with certain unions, trade groups, and businesses. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.29.214.34 ( talk) 23:21, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
Just wanted to point out that the sentence "It is the only major city in the United States bisected by a mountain range." is uncited, and arguably untrue (El Paso, for example, is more intensely bisected than LA). I can't edit, but someone who can should remove it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.90.180.92 ( talk) 18:16, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
The current "prior to 2010" section comprises the old demographic info, now updated in the "2010" section. It's just old statistics. I think we can get rid of almost all of it. It's not a comprehensive assessment of demographic trends, it's just a lengthy summary of the 2000 census. History is important, but this is a matter of overlaying statistics upon statistics. I've removed it. Will Beback talk 10:22, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
the City of Alhambra had a large Italian American population back in the 70's and early 80's. Valley Boulevard had a large number of Italian American owned business. With the influx of Asians they moved south toward San Clemente. Anthony Venti became a prominent businessman in Alhambra and subsequently owned properties. He used to have a old barbershop on Valley boulevard called "Venti's". There was also old Garfono's pizza on valley boulevard west of the 710, near CSULA. It was an Italian owned restaurant until it was sold to the current Korean owner.
Please remove the reference to specific gangs it serves as an advertisement for them. k thx bye — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.194.152.211 ( talk) 12:06, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
this regards this line in the infobox:
nickname = L.A., the City of Angels, Angeltown, the Entertainment Capital of the World, La-La Land
where "la-la land" is sourced to this: 'La-La Land,' now the dictionary definition of Los Angeles, Los Angeles Times, March 25, 2011
three things: (a) it looks like the reference is supposed to support all the nicknames, when in fact it only supports la-la land. not that "city of angels" or "l.a" need support, but "angeltown" does. i've never heard it in my life. finally (c) i suppose that "the entertainment capital of the world" is defensible, but it's not really a nickname, as no one would ever actually say it. it's more like a slogan or something. i imagine that calling it a "nickname" could be defended by the fact that "sobriquet" is often touted as a synonym for "nickname" and this is possibly a sobriquet, but i think that's stretching it.
proposal: how about if we drop angeltown and the entertainment capital of the world, leave in la-la land sourced to the LAT thing, and just suck it up that it looks like the ref is supporting all of them, since the first two are moon-is-round, so it would read (with munged ref tags for clarity on talk page):
nickname = L.A., the City of Angels, La-La Land <:ref> "'La-La Land,' now the dictionary definition of Los Angeles". Los Angeles Times. 25 March 2011. Retrieved 28 September 2011.<:/ref>
is this too much detail? one hopes that it won't be necessary for every single source.
— alf.laylah.wa.laylah ( talk) 13:33, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
here is what we have: Los Angeles (Listeni/lɒs ˈændʒələs/ loss-an-jə-ləs;[3] Spanish: [los ˈaŋxeles], English: "The Angels"),
the footnote leads to the UK pronounciation. I would prefer that we move the UK pronounciation up into the article, drop the footnote, and also drop the English: "The Angels" part, or move it somewhere else, since it seems trivial and irrelevant to pronounciation. Thus I'm proposing that we have:
Los Angeles ( /lɒs ˈændʒələs/ ⓘ Spanish: [los ˈaŋxeles] loss-AN-jə-ləs UK: /lɒs ˈændʒəliːz/ loss-AN-jə-leez)
good god, forgot to sign!— alf.laylah.wa.laylah ( talk) 22:52, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
I noticed right after this edit that i'd inadvertently switched from the core statistical area to the metropolitan statistical area. i didn't notice the difference at first, since Table of United States Core Based Statistical Areas lists them in the same line. the MSA redirects here: Los Angeles metropolitan area, while the CSA redirects here: Greater Los Angeles Area. opinions? should we work both in there? probably since it's the lead, only one is enough, but which should it be? i have no opinion, and the switch was accidental, but not so consequential that i feel moved to change it back unless people feel that i ought to. — alf.laylah.wa.laylah ( talk) 17:43, 28 September 2011 (UTC)