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Should London be described as pre-eminent? In my opinion no. It is without doubt one of the worlds greatest cities, the greatest by some measures, but promotional (peacock) terms are best avoided in an encyclopdia.
This article is a Good Article and therefore should meet certain encyclopedic quality standards. Some other articles, New York City for example do not meet the sam standards as this one and contain much dubious promotional language.
Let us stick to quality here and avoid peacock terms in this article. Martin Hogbin ( talk) 23:18, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
NorthernFactoid, I originally took a similar view to you; that we should use the somewhat vauge and subjective positive terminology about London but was persuaded that 'less is more' so to speak in articles like this.
There are many editors trying to push their home towns in WP and for the most part this serves only to reduce the quality of WP and make the articles look silly and amateur.
There was a long discusssion and an RfC on a similar topic a while back about whether London should be called the 'Financial_capital_of_the_World'. According to most sources presented it was, the problem is, what does 'financial capital of the world' mean. There is no clear and generally agreed difinition of the term so using it in an encyclopdia is pointless.
I made a similar comment about London being the World_cultural_capital.
So it is with 'pre-eminent'. What exactly does that mean in this context? How famous or important does a city mneed to be to be called 'pre-eminent'. Using the term 'pre-eminent' tells the reader nothing about London, only something about the writer's understanding of the term 'pre-eminent'. Martin Hogbin ( talk) 09:57, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Why is the population of the city's metropolitan area in the second sentence of the lead? Metropolitan area is not a measure of the size of a city. Other towns such as Reading and Luton are within the London's metropolitan area. The statement begins with noting that the city is the most populous in the UK, then cites the population of it's metropolitan area. Why not cite the population of the city?
I changed the sentence to "With over 8 million inhabitants, it is the most populous city in the United Kingdom", which was reverted as apparently the existing revision "was well".
Newcastle's metropolitan area includes the City of Sunderland. Birmingham's includes the City of Wolverhampton. Comparing cities by metropolitan area not really possible, so the two segments "It is the most populous city in the United Kingdom" and "with a metropolitan area of over 13 million inhabitants" are not reinforcing each other
Rob984 ( talk) 23:20, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
In 2013 it stated: "With an estimated 8,308,369 residents in 2012, London is the most populous region,
urban zone and
metropolitan area in the United Kingdom and is the largest city in the European Union".
Then in 2014: "It is the most populous region,
urban zone and
metropolitan area in the United Kingdom".
And now: "It is the most populous city in the United Kingdom, with a
metropolitan area of over 13 million inhabitants".
Rob984 ( talk) 23:38, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Most often in metropolitan areas there are other smaller cities but metropolitan area's population is the most commonly used measure of the size of the metropolis. But, ok - if you do not like the sentence of "It is the most populous city in the United Kingdom, with a metropolitan area of over 13 million inhabitants" I correct it, now is "It is the most populous metropolitan area in the United Kingdom, with 13 million inhabitants".
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In the infobox the area listed for Greater London is listed primarily in imperial units as opposed to the rest of the article, which is listed in primarily metric. The imperial and metric data should be reversed:
Insysion ( talk) 10:22, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
I know some of you are already having this discussion, but do you think you could just decide on a main collage?
Please ensure your decision is anything but the horrible current one.
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Change Mediaeval to Medieval 31.52.20.11 ( talk) 23:23, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi London wikieditors, I have recently received the following message on my talkpage after i removed info added by User:AHLM13 about Lakshmi Mittal from the Religion section: " yo[edit] Leave London and go to edit Sydney and Melbourne. -- AHLM13 talk 17:17, 5 April 2015 (UTC)". Is Mittal some sort of special Londoner who needs to be mentioned in the article? Is AHLM13 a London wp:expert? Should we colonials (or am i:)) only edit articles on the antipodes? should i be given a wp:trout(s) for being a ......?? Coolabahapple ( talk) 17:02, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Are the worth mentioning-
194.81.226.131 ( talk) 13:14, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
The official limits of the "City" of London (i mean the capital of UK not the county) are the same limits of the Greater London region (Inner London+Outer London) or are different? -- Good Hope Phanta ( talk) 11:53, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
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London is the capital city of England, and is not the capital city of the UK. Philhalst ( talk) 23:45, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
Not done London is both the capital of the United Kingdom, and the capital of England, like the article correctly says. Joseph2302 ( talk) 23:47, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
What is missing from the recently created city timeline article? Please add relevant content. Contributions welcome. Thank you. -- M2545 ( talk) 16:42, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
/info/en/?search=History_of_London MattyConno ( talk) 17:26, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
Not done the first line under History is
- Arjayay ( talk) 17:40, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
What is the actual difference between the two? Sometimes, people try and make a distinction between them such as saying a place is in Greater London but is not in London? Justgravy ( talk) 22:20, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
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Please change the Cycling the section to include "London was ranked number 11 in the Copenhagenize bike friendly city list in 2011"
Source: http://copenhagenize.eu/index/index.html
Manfromlondon ( talk) 12:02, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
Not done it was 16th in 2011, not 11th, and isn't in the 2015 list at all. - Arjayay ( talk) 18:11, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
This is false. London is not the capital of the EU, and by urban population, London is less populous than Paris.
The addition was added
here, only yesterday. Please discuss before changing the existing wording, rather than edit warring.
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Also, the existing wording has been stable since I ammended it in February. Rob984 ( talk) 20:49, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
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Please add the "Panorama of London from Southwark, 1600" to the external link section. The link to map is: http://www.wdl.org/en/item/14397/
Just created an account and hope I am submitting this request the correct way.
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Bns100 ( talk) 12:00, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
All the pictures in the article show either a blue or red sky, and one picture shows snow in London.
The three of them are actually rare in London, as the sky is for the most part of the year and by far overcast and rain would be in reality one of the main features of a representative London picture.
More than an online encyclopedia, Wikipedia looks sometimes a tourism agency or an agency of a governmental department, and there is an at times irritating bias in that sense in some of its editorial line. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.244.5.32 ( talk) 21:25, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
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I've read that London was first city to surpass the population of ancient Rome. This would be an interesting factoid to include, but I don't have a source yet. Anybody? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:864C:E900:E111:30A9:8CA6:8066 ( talk) 06:48, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi All.
I was wondering of senior editors opinions on this particular "London" section.
On the London Lead section I wanted to add that:
London is ranked as the most influential city in the world
Source http://www.forbes.com/sites/joelkotkin/2014/08/14/the-most-influential-cities-in-the-world/ — Ciybersal 11:07, 17 September 2015 (UTC) — continues after insertion below
London remains the undisputed leader in the rankings of the "smartest" cities in the world.
Source. The above sentence is taken exactly as it is from: http://www.ieseinsight.com/doc.aspx?id=1679 while the actual source is: http://www.iese.edu/research/pdfs/ST-0366-E.pdf — Ciybersal 11:07, 17 September 2015 (UTC) — continues after insertion below
In the district section of "London" I want to add
London's West End is the world's highest-priced office market
source London's West End continued to be the world's highest-priced office market - See more at: http://www.worldpropertyjournal.com/real-estate-news/united-kingdom/london-real-estate-news/most-expensive-office-markets-in-the-world-2015-cbre-global-prime-office-occupancy-costs-survey-london-office-rents-hong-kong-office-rates-9174.php#sthash.XvMgvpzc.dpuf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ciybersal ( talk • contribs) 11:07, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
London Economy Section
Hello Senior Editors
I am junior editor. I needed your opinion on the "economy" section of London
I added that the sentence below but it was removed by an editor
London is the world's largest foreign investment destination according to IBM's annual Global Location Trend report and in 2014 the city created more jobs than any other city in the world according to the report. [2]
The City also ranks first in the world as the top target for global investors in 2015 [ http://www.worldpropertyjournal.com/real-estate-news/united-kingdom/london-real-estate-news/global-property-investor-data-2015-global-investor-intentions-survey-2015-cbre-london-office-property-investors-new-york-commercial-investors-hong-kong-real-estate-investors-9065.php
I was wondering that if above two sentences are encyclopaedic material and therefore if relevant or not??
Also I added information regarding London real estate (below) with but it was removed.
"""London is also home to one of the world's most expensive and exclusive residential addresses such as the $12,000 per square foot (world's most expensive as of 2013) apartment complex One Hyde Park in Knightsbridge http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mhj45edfjh/one-hyde-park-london-u-k/ ,
the nicknamed "billionaires row" Kensington Palace gardens with July 2015 average property prices at over £42 million and another "billionaires row" at The Bishops Avenue""" http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jan/31/inside-london-billionaires-row-derelict-mansions-hampstead
I wonder what constitutes advertising on wikipedia as the editor who removed my article stated this as promotional material although my intentions is to add relevant and quality material. I am confused because I added this after reading New York City article on wikipedia (economy section) mentioning commercial property prices in their section and sold prices so I am little confused on the relevancy of this material.
Thanks very much — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ciybersal ( talk • contribs) 23:46, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
wouldn't it be more presentable to place the photo image as Palace of Westminster, Buckingham Palace and Central London skyline (in that order) instead of Central London skyline, Buckingham Palace and Palace of Westminster? The same image gets tiring sometimes. Rome, Washington, D.C. and other articles of cities changed their main image caption for something better. It's not really changing anything. I'm not taking away the realistic presentation view of London (if that's anyone's concern. I mean if you want to show realism, why not use an image of eastern London?). And if your problem is to show the skyline for some bizarre reason, then keep in mind that the articles of Paris, Washington DC, Moscow and São Paulo either have their skyline on bottom or don't even have skylines at all. ( N0n3up ( talk) 00:30, 27 October 2015 (UTC))
London is the largest city in England and the United Kingdom. It is however the capital only of the UK. There is no capital of England. Royalcourtier ( talk) 18:46, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Out of curiosity why does the article's climate section currently read: "Despite its reputation as being a rainy city, London receives less precipitation (601 mm (24 in) in a year), than Rome, Bordeaux, Toulouse, Naples and even Sydney in Australia, but those are spread over more days."? [emphasis added]
Given that Sydney is - by a wide margin - the rainiest of those cities, the use of the word 'even' seems rather misplaced. Also according to the figures on the respective Wikipedia articles Sydney has 143.8 precipitation days to London's 109.5, so I believe the statement is factually inaccurate as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.242.133.196 ( talk • contribs) 00:36, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
Londonium does not even have one hit per Ngram Viewer. It must be highly unsuitable for the intro. 2A02:2430:3:2500:0:0:B807:3DA0 ( talk) 02:29, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
I think this is pure WP:OR. First, one cannot compare a city to a country. What's worse this statistic is not even in the source. So that's pure WP:OR and WP:SYNTH. Using edit-warring to support original research and synthesis must stop. Thanks. Dr. K. 09:32, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
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Greetings all. I'm of the opinion, shared by many, that the montage in the infobox of the London article can be improved. It is certainly lacking compared to those of other major cities. As I've remarked previously, such is the renown of London's landmarks and skyline that the current three photos alone don't suffice. It's also imperative that a montage isn't over complicated by too many images, or presented in an incoherent manner. In terms of aesthetics, a clean border between images is imperative. Here are four examples from the articles of Paris, Tokyo, Chicago and New York respectively:
Below are montages I've created for London in a similar vein, as examples of what can be done. Each montage includes five images, the same amount as the Tokyo and Paris articles, and notably less images than montages for various other cities in the UK or worldwide. Included in each is a recent skyline image of the City, accompanied by four photos of notable/recognisable places. One can spend all day deciding which of London's many landmarks and locales are worthy of inclusion, as such there are bound to be omissions that won't make everyone happy. The examples below include the Palace of Westminster (seat of parliament), the London Eye (most popular paid attraction), Buckingham Palace (principal workplace of the monarchy), Canary Wharf (major financial centre), St Paul's Cathedral (notable as an iconic structure) and Tower Bridge (notable as an iconic structure):
What are your opinions on the matter? Can a consensus be reached so that we can implement a montage worthy of this good article and wonderful city. Cheers Southlondoneye ( talk) 10:15, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
Does anyone know when Sadiq Khan will take office? The article has predictably been the subject of attempts to add him as the current mayor, but although he has won the election, not all political offices are necessarily taken up straight away. Cordless Larry ( talk) 19:59, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
It turns out that, due to delays with the results, Khan doesn't officially take office until Monday - see here, here and here. Cordless Larry ( talk) 07:06, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
Is it really necessary in the introduction to mention that some people don´t consider themselves Londoners? It just seems a bit dated, you could go further back if you liked. The name Greater London was also given in the early 1960s. A loose definition of a Greater City would extend beyond the current county/city of Greater London. It is mainly the last sentence I feel should be replaced, and also perhaps a mention that many boroughs in the home counties that made up the built up areas of London was absorbed, and that urban area has grown beyond it.
I could get statistics, but if you look at the boroughs outside Greater London - these are the neighbouring boroughs - that have more than 50% working in London, if I remember correctly it is all the boroughs that form a orbit around Greater London.
Food for thought. 93.89.46.224 ( talk) 09:08, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
Under the music heading EMI is listed as a major record company but EMI as a record company is no more. I just wondered if that needs to be amended? Patrice58 ( talk) 06:22, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
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The lead is badly cluttered with a bunch of rankings. Can we remove a bunch of them. -- Lemongirl942 ( talk) 00:08, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
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This seems sufficient to justify the explanation in the lead:
Both these statements contain verifying references already footnoted. However, we now have the appearance of two editors who are looking for various reasons to do away with the probability or evidence of Briton settlements and/or the date 43 AD, from the Lede. One says he does not think it notable, and the other says it is unsupported speculation. Both seemed a bit too bully to initiate discussion rather than edit war, so I'm initiating it here for further explanation. Regards, Philip Mexico ( talk) 14:12, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
"Although there is evidence of scattered Brythonic settlements in the area, the first major settlement was founded by the Romans after the invasion of 43 AD"while the material you're edit-warring against multiple editors over says
"probably close to an already existing Celtic Briton village or settlement – around the year 43". Which is not at all the same, meaning that "probably close to an already existing Celtic Briton village or settlement" is pure unsourced speculation (see WP:OR/ WP:SYNTH) and against the rules here. Which is why I have reverted you... - Tom | Thomas.W talk 15:18, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
(foundation of the city, not the drain) Philip Mexico ( talk) 17:02, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
Religious and LGBT community
Should this section be in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bringingvalue ( talk • contribs) 06:53, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
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Hi. Can someone fix the photo here? Perhaps add something more. https://sn.wikipedia.org/wiki/London -- Mats33 ( talk) 22:19, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
Should this be stated? Since it now mentions "most populated in the EU" maybe it should be stated "until the Government gets its wheels on the track"?-- Edittrack121 ( talk) 17:59, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
It has not yet happened and may not happen. Unless the vote directly affects the sentence you refer to, there is no need to change anything. Wikipedia is not about guessing the future. Roger 8 Roger ( talk) 18:07, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
Well May has a timetable for 2018 to be a leave date. I just think it should be mentioned. That is the Governments intent.-- Edittrack121 ( talk) 09:30, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
The word 'numerous' is used in this article four times, yet in all cases the items in question could be enumerated. This should be fixed, at least by changing all instances of 'numerous' to 'many.' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.31.243.90 ( talk) 15:41, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
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Will have to look up Wildlife! - including pigeons. Also the large parks of London! Some work here!
The weatherbox seems to assume that the highest temperatures in the UK always occur in Heathrow, which is not always the case. Heathrow did not record a 19.7°C record high for February as that temperature was only reached at Greenwich Observatory on 13 February 1998. It did not record the record the record high for April of 29.4°C as that occurred only in Camden Square on 16 April 1949. May, June and October continue in the same vein, displaying record highs for the whole of the UK when those temperatures didn't occur at Heathrow but as far away as Southampton and Gravesend-- Minotdips ( talk) 20:46, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
By what definition? The climate data provided shows about 150mm of rain during the December through February period, and about 10 days of measurable precipitation per month. That is, not hugely different from the rest of the year, and not particularly wet compared to many other places. I'm not being "defensive Londoner" here. If you can provide evidence of "damp" winters (humidity?) then go for it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.185.53.180 ( talk) 14:15, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
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Please change the infobox as detailed below in "please change X to Y" format (sorry but including the fully detailed request in this part seems to break the template). An edit of 18 August 2017 (diff below) changed the infobox GVA figures for all London to those for a small, rich area of London, as was made clear by the title of the inserted source "This pocket of London is the richest place in Europe" and the text of the source, beginning " Data published Friday shows an area of inner west London is the most prosperous part of Europe by a long shot. The area encompasses Buckingham Palace, Big Ben, Notting Hill and the City of London financial district. Based on GDP per head, this part of London ...."
As the other part of the edit (bizarrely changing https to http throughout) has already been undone by a bot, the infobox will probably have to be changed by hand as below.
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| demographics_type1 = GDP/GVA (2016)
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[2]
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| demographics1_title1 = Total
| demographics1_info1 = £890 billion / $1.2 trillion
| demographics1_title2 = Per capita
| demographics1_info2 = £119,300 / $162,200
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| demographics_type1 = GVA (2016)
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| demographics1_title1 = Total
| demographics1_info1 = £378 billion
| demographics1_title2 = Per capita
| demographics1_info2 = £43,629
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[3] It seems as if most of that editor's contributions to this article
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Harper9979, why don't you just explain where the hell you are getting those figures from, and what they actually mean? They could possibly be included along side the regional figures. But the official ONS regional figures for London's GVA in 2015 are not wrong, and London's economy has not increased in size by 200% since then. You've been reverted by numerous editors. Stop being disruptive. Rob984 ( talk) 15:41, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
the Central London and Inner London is different story, Central of London means the whole of London.
I've reviewed User:Harper9979's behaviour as my attention was drawn to it by having this article on my watch list. I hope you won't see any more problematic behaviour from them. DDStretch (talk) 21:28, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
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It states Sadiq Khan as mayor of London in infobox, which is correct, but add Jo Johnson ( C) as Minister for London? Could add new tag, or just br under major of London and add Jo Johnson there.
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Hi, I'm Komky. On page 4.4 (Climate), I want to add the Trewartha classification for London, it is Subtropical/Maritime. Komky ( talk) 10:51, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
Rugby section needs an update - still has London Welsh as a premiership club, they are now in London NW3 following going bust. Richmond are a Championship side. I suspect all other sports are equally out of date. Can someone with an account and time fix. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.6.99.67 ( talk) 16:13, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
All the pictures in the article depict a "sunny" London that is far from reality. It's even more amusing to notice that even the only picture in the climate section is a remark about dubious 'summer day temperatures'. Unbelievable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.187.172.187 ( talk) 19:22, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
Totally agree with this one. London has predominantly a cloudy or overcast sky throughout most of the year, and the pictures (some of which look even edited because the light in london is not that intense) depict a sort of idyllic sky which is the exception most days in the city. This manipulation is encyclopaedic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.187.170.2 ( talk) 19:15, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
the comments above are nonsense. London is officially drier then Sydney, Rome oR Paris. The whole 'it always rains in London' thing is an incorrect stereotype. The original stereotype was that it rains alot in England which is true (however London is in the driest part of England and much dryer than England as a whole) this somehow changed to it raining alot in london as many foreigners say London when they mean England. This year the summer was so hot that from space England (including London) looks a yellow colour as all the grass has died and dried up and we had consistent sunny days of 35c+.
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In the Education section, please update the university rankings of UCL, ICL and KCL to read:
A number of world-leading education institutions are based in London. In the 2013
QS World University Rankings,
University College London (UCL) is ranked 4th in the world,
Imperial College London 5th, and
King's College London 19th.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2013|title=QS World University Rankings - Overall for 2013|accessdate=18 March 2014</ref>
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London population is old, info is from 2016, current info from the same source from 2017 is 8,825,001 inhabitants. Change:
Population (2016)[4]
• Greater London 8,787,892
to
Population (2017)[4]
• Greater London 8,825,001
Source: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/populationestimates/datasets/populationestimatesforukenglandandwalesscotlandandnorthernireland 85.237.234.225 ( talk) 23:45, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
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Change
subdivision_type =
Sovereign State
subdivision_name =
United Kingdom
subdivision_type1 =
Country
subdivision_type2 =
Region
subdivision_name1 =
England
to
subdivision_type =
Sovereign State
subdivision_name = United Kingdom
subdivision_type1 =
Country
subdivision_type2 =
Region
subdivision_name1 =
England
MOS:INFOBOXFLAG
WP:INFOBOXFLAG
MOS:INFOBOXFLAG starts "Avoid flag icons in infoboxes - Generally, flag icons should not be used in infoboxes, even when there is a "country", "nationality" or equivalent field: they are unnecessarily distracting and give undue prominence to one field among many." The later passage "Human geographic articles – for example, settlements and administrative subdivisions – may have flags", isn't as emphatic and seems to be a contradiction. A year or so ago, maybe two, I remember reading comments about a discussion there had been between admin, senior editors et al, in which a consensus had been reached that flags should not be used in infoboxes of town and cities, and a random check of such pages tends to bear this out
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Very odd to see a Hindu temple. Is there many Hindus here? -- Moxy ( talk) 03:31, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
In Tabula Rogeriana, which is written by Muhammad al-Idrisi, It is stated that London was called by Arabs "Londaras" Arabic: لُوندَرَس or "Londra" Arabic: لُندَرَة. هارون الرشيد العربي ( talk) 15:59, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
I propose that Greater London be merged into London. The administrative boundaries of the London region and London are the same so I don’t understand why the articles are seperate. IWI ( chat) 20:24, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
Hello, the article has a subsection on climate change. However, it does not contain information on the impact of climate change on London, which probably has peculiar features. Information by reliable sources should be added. Kind regards, Sarcelles ( talk) 18:26, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
Hello! Apologies if I'm violating any convention. I'm not a common Wikipedia contributor.
The London article lists it as capital of England and the United Kingdom. My understanding is that it is only the capital of the United Kingdom following the Acts of Union in 1707 and that England technically has no capital. The supporting material sited as reference for this statement only notes it as capital of United Kingdom and doesn't mention England. While I agree it's a common notion that London is the capital of England, I don't believe that is factually correct.
It's possible I'm mistaken, but thought I'd post a comment to see if any improvements are necessary for article accuracy. Cheers!
Additional reference:
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It was impossible to make a similar edit at England because "there isn't consensus here". IWI ( chat) 22:29, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
No law or act of parliament officially recognises London as the UK’s capital never mind England. London’s status as both the de facto British and English capital is only legitimised through long-standing recognition and tradition. Margalant ( talk) 21:03, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
According to Collins English Dictionary, a capital is simply "the seat of government of a country or other political unit". [5] - Station1 ( talk) 03:39, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
People need to stop edit warring and start talking about the parameter that changes every day at this point. IWI ( chat) 12:49, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
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The record low temperature in the London area is -16.1c recorded at Northolt in January 1962. There is an unsourced claim of -21c, which is incorrect and should be removed. 62.255.196.99 ( talk) 15:00, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
Currently, the article for Greater London contains information the London region as well. I think that the parts about the London region should be moved to this page because they are the same thing. Greater London only includes the parts of London outside of the City of London. However, the boundaries of the region of London include the city as well. London, the capital of the United Kingdom has the same boundaries as London, the region of England so I believe that they should share the same article. ParadiseDesertOasis8888 ( talk) 03:06, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
The Religion section has "Large Hindu communities are in the north-western boroughs of
Harrow and
Brent, the latter of which hosts what was, until 2006,
[1] Europe's largest
Hindu temple,
Neasden Temple.
[2] London is also home to 44 Hindu temples, including the
BAPS Shri Swaminarayan Mandir London." The Neasden Temple of the first sentence is the BAPS Shri Swaminarayan Mandir London of the next sentence, and
Neasden Temple is a redirect to
BAPS Shri Swaminarayan Mandir London.
An even smaller quibble is that while it's true that - at least at the 2011 census - there were "large Hindu communities ... in Harrow and Brent", there are large Hindu communities in other parts of London too, as shown in a map used in
Religion in London.
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This statement: "London is considered to be one of the world's most important global cities[18][19][20] and has been termed the world's most powerful,[21] most desirable,[22] most influential,[23] most visited,[24] most expensive,[25][26] innovative,[27] sustainable,[28] most investment friendly,[29] most popular for work,[30] and the most vegetarian friendly[31] city in the world." is a great example of puffery isn't it? I'm sure, if I tried hard enough, I could find a reference that stated London is the dirtiest, most unfriendly, etc, etc city in the world, but we wouldn't put it in the lead. I can't see what the statement adds. Should it be removed? Silas Stoat ( talk) 16:44, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
The calculation for population density is incorrect. If there are 9,126,366 people living in 607 square miles as per the other statistics given then the population density is over 15,000 per square mile. Please correct this for the sake of accuracy and also because 500+ people is quite significant on the ground. By leaving the population density at 14,500 it somehow looks as if London isn't dramatically overpopulated when in fact it is. Iynx ( talk) 07:05, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
To state that London is the largest city in England is wrong. 'London', the City itself, is small. Like the 'puffery' subject mentioned below, it's no wonder the English are laughed at by the rest of the World.
On the Template:London weatherbox page, the snowfall data keeps being deleted by the user Subtropical-man, who thinks it should be included only on the Climate of London because snowfall is more 'detailed'. I fail to see why this applies to London but not other big cities such as New York City and Toronto. Let's achieve a consensus! RandomIntrigue ( talk) 18:05, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
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London population is outdated, change 8,825,000 (2017) to 8,908,081 (2018) Source : https://www.ons.gov.uk/file?uri=/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/populationestimates/datasets/populationestimatesforukenglandandwalesscotlandandnorthernireland/mid20182019laboundaries/ukmidyearestimates20182019ladcodes.xls 95.103.100.88 ( talk) 03:47, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
An editor recently attempted to remove the fact that London is England’s capital both on this page and the England page. He/she was swiftly told that consensus is that London is the undisputed capital of both England and the UK, but he/she continues to delete the part in the lede which highlights this fact. I would ask this editor to stop as their actions are creating inconsistencies between the London and England page. Margalant ( talk) 10:58, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
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London population should be changed to 8,908,081 as of 2018. Source: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/populationestimates/datasets/populationestimatesforukenglandandwalesscotlandandnorthernireland
Change Population (2017)
• Total 8,825,000
to Population (2018)
• Total 8,908,081
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A large new skyscraper has now been completed, making the photo out of date. A P Monblat ( talk) 12:33, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
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Under "cycling", add a period after "...other cities in the world". DasScheit ( talk) 23:27, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
No issue with reference to Imperial College and LSE in the lead, but the amount of detail seems excessive and the failure to include UCL eccentric considering it is far larger and ranked higher by most global rankings. These three are the London members of the G5 and usually regarded as the London members of the "golden triangle". Sugggest:
"and is home to world-class institutions including UCL, Imperial College London and the London School of Economics." 85.211.134.129 ( talk) 12:23, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
A couple of comments on the lead:
Hi Team, first part of the code renders as following;
I think it is a bit long for general visitors and should be cleaned up to;
This page London (disambiguation) also needs to be re-ordered I feel, not sure how and wanted to seek viewpoints etc.
Was thinking either "Most common" section and have top three uses?
sub section "Authorities"?
Just does not seem to scan well, if anyone has any more or better suggestion please add.
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New discovery suggests London’s story goes back more than 3,000 years longer than previously thought. "Archaeological investigations just 15 metres outside the northern boundary of the historic City of London have unearthed evidence of what appears to have been some sort of prehistoric ceremonial site. The implication of the discovery is that London may have begun not as a town or even as a village – but as a ceremonial place of popular assembly where local people would have come together for major social and religious feasts and rituals." An exciting new dating method. [6] Doug Weller talk 15:41, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
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London, also known as DerryLondon McYurt ( talk) 16:44, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Londra. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 May 5#Londra until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. TheAwesome Hwyh 19:27, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
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Dear Wikipedia I would like to change 2 things 1.Greater London Built up area -something like 10.7-12 mln in 2020 and the phrase that london commuter belt is the biggest metropolitan area in Europe . It is not the biggest because Moscow metropolitan area is over 20 milion . JTarg ( talk) 18:38, 23 May 2020 (UTC)