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Counties added to MSA after census

I haven't been able to find any guidelines on this, but the practice on articles about MSAs appears to be to not include the population of counties that were added after a census to that MSA's population at that census. This seems to make more sense, as there are lots of MSAs in states with small counties, where those counties added later may not have been urbanized, and socially not considered part of that particular MSA. However, that doesn't appear to be the practice here. Is there a reason for this? Bneu2013 ( talk) 23:51, 31 January 2020 (UTC) reply

This is not quite correct. There is usually at least one delineation done during a 10-year census period (usually two, I think), and it has been policy, here, to change the population to reflect that when the Census data changes. The most recent delineation took place last year, but after the year's estimates were put out. So when the next county and metro estimates come out this year - I think this is in March - the data will reflect the change in boundaries from last year if even occurred -- Criticalthinker ( talk) 22:26, 1 February 2020 (UTC). reply
Are you saying that for each census year, we should include the population of counties that were not considered part of that MSA during that census as part of the entire population in every article, and not just here? Because that's not how its done in most articles on individual MSAs. Bneu2013 ( talk) 23:04, 2 February 2020 (UTC) reply
Between 10-year census periods, metropolitan areas are officially delineated twice. The figure is retroactively changed for the previous Census to show this to make the figures directly comparable to the latest estimate or Census. That is how it's always been done on this page since I've been active on it. -- Criticalthinker ( talk) 03:06, 3 February 2020 (UTC) reply

2019 numbers

The 2019 estimates (which cover the new delineations from 2018) have been out for a few weeks, now.

https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/popest/2010s-total-metro-and-micro-statistical-areas.html

-- Criticalthinker ( talk) 07:44, 15 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Are you sure that these numbers are completely accurate? Some of the 2010 numbers look vastly off from the numbers that were posted before this dataset? 47.197.202.76 ( talk) 04:03, 25 April 2020 (UTC) reply
lol, what? I gave you a Census Bureau link. -- Criticalthinker ( talk) 04:11, 25 April 2020 (UTC) reply

This was the information from last year, and some areas, like Birmingham, AL, Baton Rouge, LA, and Fayetteville, NC, appear to be vastly different: https://archive.vn/20200213131422/https://factfinder.census.gov/bkmk/table/1.0/en/PEP/2018/PEPANNRES/0100000US.31000 https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=List_of_metropolitan_statistical_areas&oldid=947938540 47.197.202.76 ( talk) 04:29, 25 April 2020 (UTC) reply

I suspect because the difference in delineations. The new delineations were done recently, which redefines each area maybe one or twice a decade. -- Criticalthinker ( talk) 04:45, 25 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Puerto Rico in main list?

Shouldn’t Puerto Rico be in the main list? It’s part of the US and they are regular Census MSAs. - AW ( talk) 01:31, 29 April 2021 (UTC) reply

The Census Bureau has no differentiation between them, so I'm going to make another table with both combined. In my opinion here should only be one table. Census says "CBSAs [which includes MSAs, CSAs etc] consist of counties and equivalent entities throughout the United States and Puerto Rico." -- AW ( talk) 01:55, 29 April 2021 (UTC) reply
The Bureau very much does seperate them out. -- Criticalthinker ( talk) 06:35, 29 April 2021 (UTC) reply

2020

Is anyone planning to update the list to account for the newly released 2020 data? 2603:9000:6C01:F33F:FD26:6EC6:DEF4:2BA4 ( talk) 16:51, 11 May 2021 (UTC) reply

I am working on it. It will take a few days, but I'll have the new tables soon. D ralwi k| Have a Chat 20:02, 2 June 2021 (UTC) reply

385 + 8 = 393

Why does the number at the top of the article, in the lead section, not match the sum of the numbers in the two tables? 385 metro areas in the US states plus 8 in Puerto Rico table equals 393 metro areas, which is not the number in the lead if this list article. If there are ways to reach the number in the lead, perhaps those ways could be explained. I did not change the number in the lead, not knowing these details - - Prairieplant ( talk) 20:51, 26 June 2021 (UTC) reply

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