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The Mantle is described as being above the wick so the heat of the flame heats the mantle. Perhaps there are lamps like this but it sounds very doubtful. What is being (badly) described is the pressure lantern, where the mantle completely replaces the wick and glows due to super-heated gases burning at the surface of the mantle. I think the use and operation of the Pressure Lantern is of sufficient interest to warrants its own page. Gutta Percha ( talk) 13:52, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
Melting point, boiling point, vapor pressure for starters. Viscosity, solubility (and solving properties) would be really important. Perhaps mention the properties of some of the components, like decane etc. 213.243.137.56 ( talk) 06:22, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
I agree, even though this is three years later. It's hard to do homework when there is barely enough information on the website of choice. -- 121.219.254.230 ( talk) 08:23, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
What is the generated heat (J/kg) obtained by the burning of kerosene in air?
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Diesel 10942Wh/l 13762Wh/kg
Gasoline 9,700 Wh/l 12,200 Wh/kg
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63.245.153.165 (
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What is the use of mixing kerosene and styrene and heat for 45 - 60 minutes at 150 degree celcius?
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165.21.154.11& 165.21.154.12 (
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think.
Gaviidae 13:38, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
What is the toxic inhalation level of Kerosene?
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202.160.21.17 (
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In "Properties and grades," the phrases "Premium" and "Standard" kerosene are used without definition. What is meant? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.162.73.2 ( talk) 12:56, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
This section seemed too speculative and open to argument to include. No doubt al-Razi distilled something from petroleum, but to conclude that it was kerosene and not one of the multitude of other petroleum distillates is perhaps going too far.
The article itself defines kerosene specifically: "Kerosene is a thin, clear liquid formed from hydrocarbons, with density of 0.78-0.81g/cm3. Kerosene is obtained from the fractional distillation of petroleum between 150 °C and 275 °C, resulting in a mixture of carbon chains containing 12 to 15 carbon atoms." My question is, is there any evidence that al-Razi's distillate was this particular one, rather than some other petroleum distillate? If not, it would be more accurate to say that al-Razi developed petroleum distillates, rather than that he discovered or "described" kerosene. 156.34.35.27 ( talk) 19:47, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Can Biodiesel be used for aviation purposes, providing it can be kept liquid? Maybe a blend with kerosine? Reduce CO2 emissions overall.
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81.140.113.51 (
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To above: if diesel can be used for aviation, biodiesel can also. If diesel can't, then BD can't. Be aware that BD is even more viscous than diesel, so you have even worse gelling problems. I say this knowing only about BD in land vehicles-- if the vehicle can use diesel, it can use BD. Since planes get pretty cold, I'd say no. The amount of additives would be huge, I'd
What is K-1?
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65.23.107.74 (
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What is the difference between kerosene and
diesel fuel?
David.Monniaux 20:08, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
IrishPete 21:26, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Is the Turkish for Kerosene "Gaz Yağı"?
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63.226.193.28 (
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Is kerosene a proper noun? Should it be written "Kerosene" or "kerosene"? ( Mhopeng ( talk) 06:21, 17 November 2009 (UTC))
Is there a wikipedia policy about dubious medical advice? Although I found a reference on the
Anthelmintic page to kerosene being used to purge intestinal worms in some army field manual reprint, I strongly suspect that most of the medical community would say that ingesting kerosene under any circumstances is likely to cause more harm than good... for now, I'm leaving the reference with the link so people can at least see the reference.
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Montyy0 03:13, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
I removed from the article the advice that kerosene kill worms. It also kills people. Wikipedia should be very cautious giving out home remedies. I have been told by my doctor that if petroleum distillates enter the lungs it can be fatal. As for ingestion: if someone ingests kerosene they need medical treatment. It is dangerous. See
http://www.emedicine.com/PED/topic2721.htm See
http://www.pasasa.org/pasasa/aboutus/ where it says "Paraffin {[kerosene]poisoning is usually caused by drinking paraffin (ingestion). If paraffin, which is very viscous, gets into the lungs it often leads to chemical pneumonitis and eventually pneumonia....80,000 children ingest paraffin (kerosene) every year.40 000 children develop chemical pneumonia each year as a result of ingesting paraffin. See also
http://www.valero.com/docs/MSDS/HeatingOil/Kerosene%20-%20105.pdf
Edison 16:17, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Silly, can't wikipedia just say, "so-and-sos have used the ingestion of kerosene to kill intestinal parasites, although it's well-known in most of the world that ingesting kerosene causes severe medical problems" or something like that? Gives info, doesn't confuse Grandma?
Gaviidae 13:38, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
What about mentioning the use of kerosene in internal combustion engines? I've heard that back in the 20s and 30s many tractors were started using a small tank of gasoline, and once the engine was warm they'd switch to the main kerosene tank. This was done because kerosene was cheaper than gasoline in those days.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.160.160.175 ( talk) 03:52, 28 September 2006
See: Tractor vaporising oil. Biscuittin 18:18, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Volvo Penta was making kerosene internal combustion engines for boats all the way up into the early '80s. Others may have been too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.108.26.4 ( talk) 19:30, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
In the article
Nigeria runs out of jet fuel it talks of dual-purpose kerosene (DPK). What is this ?
Wizzy…
☎ 08:28, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
According to the EPA, fuel must be catagorised in certain ways for it to be imported into the US (I assume other countries as well). Dual-use kerosene is a fuel that is both "Motor vehicle, nonroad, locomotive or marine (MVNRLM) diesel fuel" and "...is also suitable for use as kerosene or jet fuel (i.e., commonly referred to as dual use kerosene) may be designated as MVNRLM, kerosene, or jet fuel (as applicable).
[1]" I think 1D is diesel #1, which is kerosene/diesel. In other words, read the article's "dual-use" as "kerosene." Hope this helps.
Gaviidae 13:52, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Added by althomps48@yahoo.com on 1/28/2012---I would suggest 3 things that I did not see noted here. First,diesel and kerosene are alike but different products. If you start with crude oil and began refining you get to diesel before kerosene but both are well ahead of gasoline in the refining process. Kerosene IS number 1 oil while diesel is number 2 ( thicker, produces more energy, and has a higher ignition point than kerosene. Many older engines run fine on either. Most newer ones will now but with disastruos effects. 2nd point is that in the early nineteen hundreds diesel and kerosene were almost waste products from gaso;ine production and was incredibly cheap therefore the use of the diesel became common. The diesel engine was invented by Rudolph Diesel and originally was meant to run on peanut oil but when the waste product from making other petro products became readily available people began using that.The only reason diesel is expensive now is because they can get away with it. Diesel should not be more than about a third the cost of gasoline. Third point is that diesel produces more heat over a longer period of time than either kerosene (sold as k1) or gasoline and is a much more effecient and cleaner product. — Preceding
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67.158.171.75 (
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In Britain, kerosene is normally referred to as 'paraffin' (NOT 'paraffin oil' - I have never heard it called 'paraffin oil', except here on wikipedia,) and the wax is referred to as 'paraffin wax', never as just 'paraffin'. When used as aviation fuel, either 'kerosene' or 'aviation spirit/fuel' is usually used.
DuncanHill 16:32, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I have tried to tackle some of the points you raise, see: Paraffin (disambiguation), but it's a bigger job than I expected and there are probably still some inconsistencies. Biscuittin 20:54, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Can I also add that Methylated Spirit is also dyed a vaguely blueish colour in the UK, which might cause confusion. Meths is an alchohol based fuel - very different from Paraffin.
According to "Advanced Chemistry " (Oxford University Press), by Michael Clugston and Rosalind Flemming (
ISBN
0-19-914633-0), Kerosene has 10-14 carbon atoms in molecules, so which is right ? I have seen a number of internet-sites stating that Kerosene is from 12-15 carbon atoms, but generally I would think that my textbook is more reliable than the internet, does anyone else know anything about this ?
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84.211.231.150 (
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Disagree - If RP-1 is to be merged into
kerosene, then
jet fuel must also. The differences between Kerosene and RP-1 are just as few as the differences between Kero and Jet Fuel.
Personally I'd rather they stay seperate, or, at least have the redirection take the wikier down to the part of the page that specifically addresses RP-1.
Gaviidae 13:42, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
I don't agree with the statement that kerosene is dark blue. I believe it's initially clear but, in the UK, a dye is added to "domestic paraffin" before sale. This is usually blue but, in the past, different oil companies used different colours, e.g. Esso blue, Aladdin pink (from Shell) and I think Regent/Texaco used green. Biscuittin 18:36, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
I would like to suggest that the paragraphs on heating and lighting be incorporated under one paragraph- possibly with the heading "Domestic use" with statements that have been made consolidated under this heading by geographic region; similarly consolidate "transportation" and "other uses" under a further heading of "commercial use" where possible- there would probably still be a much reduced "other uses" section. I'm happy to rewrite these parts of the article and possibly expand and add references as long as people are happy for me to do that. IrishPete 21:45, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
I'm surprised nobody's noticed the badly-written section on Sri Lanka — it was added by 91.104.4.48 in late July (*.orangehomedsl.co.uk, diff). I've removed bits already mentioned in other sections, and moved it to the end, but I don't know if the paragraph should be there at all. ⇌ Elektron 18:56, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Why don't we have the chemical formula anywhere on the aricle page?-- § Eloc § 23:00, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Kerosene is usually defined as a mixture of aliphatic compounds ranging from approximately C12 to C15. So why does it have such a strong odor? If you have ever smelled pure compounds in this range, such as dodecane, they are nearly odorless. Heavier petroleum distillates like mineral oil are pretty much odorless too. But kerosene has a strong, fairly distinct odor. Does kerosene's odor come from other types of chemicals, like naphtha or benzene? If so, is it possible to buy "pure" kerosene with all of those things removed? Deepfryer99 ( talk) 18:50, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
This sourced statement in the article appears to be referencing something else besides "kerosene", since it apparently wasn't available until the middle 1800s: "The first kerosene lamp was described by al-Razi (Rhazes) in 9th century Baghdad, who referred to it as the "naffatah" in his Kitab al-Asrar (Book of Secrets)." Piano non troppo ( talk) 22:34, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
This isn't directly connected with Kerosene but this section suggests that methanol is used indoors as a substitute, which is false. Ethanol or propanol is used indoors since methanol is entirely too toxic. Out of the latter, propanol would be the fuel of choice since it gives a slightly brighter flame despite it being also slightly more toxic than ethanol. I can't find any citations for this, but I do know in the fire-spinning community methanol is frowned upon. Could anyone help provide support? Swampedalive ( talk) 15:55, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
You may wish to reconsider the statement that kerosene was considered "explosive as gunpowder." . While this may indeed have been the case a study of kerosene explosions shows that in the early days it was the adulteration of kerosene with gasoline that lead to explosions. This was helped by the fact that there was no market for gasoline as this period was before cars were commonplace. The fact is that kerosene is known as being very safe and has a flash point of 100 degrees as compared to a flash point for gasoline of minus 40. Arydberg ( talk) 18:52, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
You may want to try here:
http://www.galcit.caltech.edu/EDL/projects/JetA/
Arydberg ( talk) 18:01, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Do you believe kerosene is explosive?
Arydberg (
talk) 03:45, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
here is one : http://www.cpsc.gov/CPSCPUB/PUBS/5052.html Arydberg ( talk) 17:55, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
How about this:
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=980CEEDD173DE433A2575AC0A96E9C94689ED7CF Arydberg ( talk) 14:13, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Like all flammable liquids, Kerosene is highly explosive if atomized and mixed with the correct amount of air. This of course is how Kerosene powered engines operate. The most benign materials are explosive when mixed with air, examples being Flour, Coal dust, etc. Gutta Percha ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:59, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
The following quote from the article is very misleading..... "C12H26(l) + 37/2 O2(g) → 12 CO2(g) + 13 H2O(g); ∆H˚ = -7513 kJ The reaction generates an average 1.62 x 1011 watts (J/s) or 217 million horsepower[16]." How can 217 million HP be an average without a statement of quantity? Is this 217 million HP per molecule? I recommend removing the last sentence detailing 217 million HP, and will do so if there is no dissent. 208.254.130.235 ( talk) 18:29, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Why is there no mention of the flash-point of kerosene (in °C/°F)? Trumpy ( talk) 09:45, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
By industrial experience I have learned that Kerosine and paraffin are not the same. When used in the European made paraffin heaters we sell, kerosine is difficult to start and if it runs, soots the inside works up causing damage. We can find no suitable paraffin fuel substitute in New Zealand Oceanlift ( talk) 21:33, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
"Ingestion of kerosene is harmful or fatal" Surely this is too vague, ingestion of anything can be harmful or fatal. It requires some data and exposure limits to be meaningful. Mtpaley ( talk) 00:15, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
That directly conflicts with the Jetfuel page and needs to be cited. The afore mentioned page states that Jet A fuels are "Kerosene-type" and not that they are Kerosene, Jet A is also only one of several jet fuels, none of which are mere Kerosene. 64.149.19.131 ( talk) 01:28, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Another point -- the world consumption rate mentioned in this article (1.2 million barrels a day) is inconsistent with the values in the [Jet Fuel] article (1980=1.8, 2014=5.2). You wouldn't put just any old kerosene in your Boeing, but jet fuel is frequently referred to as "Aviation Kerosene" and similar phrases, so the articles need to be brought back into sync. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Plucky Underdog ( talk • contribs) 10:42, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
In the USA, red dyed kerosene is sold in metal gallon cans for use in wick type heaters. The price is so ridiculously high for this in some areas that it's impossible to give away a kerosene heater. The same cans of red kerosene in the mid 90's were quite affordable, cheap enough that many people around where I live were using several kerosene heaters in their houses instead of any other type of heating. Bizzybody ( talk) 08:09, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps this has changed historically but today in the USA, Kerosene must be sold and stored in Blue containers, while Petrol is sold in Red containers. Gutta Percha ( talk)
Does anyone know how to determine the price of C2 burning oil (used for domestic heating) on the commodities markets? I found that "KSG11.NYM" is "Singapore Jet Kerosene Swap" which is the nearest I can find to the price. I've an interest in how the wholesale price of the oil compares to the price consumers of oil pay. In 2010 there was an approximately 70% increase in the cost of domestic heating oil. Many believe the companies distributing the oil are acting as a cartel, and the Monopolies commission have been consulted about this. Here's one MP's take on it http://www.alistaircarmichael.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=140&catid=1&Itemid=72
I assume the price should depend to a large extent on what its distilled from, but again have no idea. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.78.42.15 ( talk) 21:44, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Fuel Oil used for heating is simply a lower grade Diesel oil (eg Distillate). It's price has risen dramatically as world wide supplies of Petroleum oil have diminished. Note that in many counties domestic heating oil is taxed at a lower rate to oil used for transport. Gutta Percha ( talk)
what is typical shelf life of k-1 kerosene? what is typical storage life of k-1 kerosene? does k-1 kerosene go stale (does it expire)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.51.144.118 ( talk) 11:12, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
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