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The result of the move request was: page moved.
Vegaswikian (
talk) 00:27, 13 November 2010 (UTC)reply
Support – is there any reason the article could not be moved to
Kawela Bay, i.e. precise but only as precise as is needed (
WP:Precision).
Green Giant (
talk) 05:20, 6 November 2010 (UTC)reply
Being consistently named with similar articles per such guidelines is only one of the five main criteria listed at
WP:TITLE; we need to try to meet the other criteria too. In this case there is a conflict, but the more concise name meets more of the criteria. See below. --
Born2cycle (
talk) 19:34, 7 November 2010 (UTC)reply
To clarify, the article is mostly census information, and the convention for CDPs is to append the state. Also it made me realize that there is at least one more Kawela in Hawaii with an article, so I added a hatnote. And for that matter, there is no
Kawela, Hawaii yet. Maybe that should be a disambig page pointing to the two that already exist? The other article uses the NRHP name, since does not seem to be a CDP. The GNIS has 22 entries for "Kawela" in Hawaii (including gultches, streams, summits, etc.) but the CDP is "Kawela Bay". Also of course the GNIS has neither
apostrophe nor ʻ
okina in the state name.
W Nowicki (
talk) 16:51, 6 November 2010 (UTC)reply
Support move. I'm with Green Giant... 1st choice for destination is
Kawela Bay, which already redirects here indicating
primacy. While
Kawela Bay, Hawaii is consistent with current U.S. naming guidelines cited above, consistency with similar articles is only one of the criteria to consider.
Kawela Bay meets the other criteria at
WP:TITLE better: it's more concise, natural and is "only as precise as necessary";
Kawela Bay, Hawaii is more precise than necessary. --
Born2cycle (
talk) 19:49, 6 November 2010 (UTC)reply
Comment SupportWhy shouldn't the article be moved to
Kawela Bay instead? Per above.
Rehman 02:31, 7 November 2010 (UTC)reply
Didn't we just go over that?
PowersT 13:37, 7 November 2010 (UTC)reply
Alright, for some reason, the text above did not show (or I was blind) when I made the comment via my notebook. ;) I support the current move. Kind regards.
Rehman 13:45, 7 November 2010 (UTC)reply
I would be fine with just
Kawela Bay too, as long as some CDP purist does not move it back to include the state name and be consistent with all the other CDPs in the US. Perhaps adding more about the bay itself might help. And presume there would be no objection to the disambig page mentioned above?
W Nowicki (
talk) 17:53, 7 November 2010 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
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