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Requested move 23 April 2017

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: NOT MOVED. This was an advisory nomination, and to date not one person -- not even the nominator, since it's advisory -- has expressed a desire to move it. Herostratus ( talk) 18:58, 29 April 2017 (UTC) reply


John Hancock Tower → 200 Clarendon Street – I do not support this move, but an an editor (with his first edit) moved it without discussion from "John Hancock Tower" to "200 Clarendon Street". I'm not sure what the name should be (the old name is fine with me, but I don't really know the answer), but at any rate it should be discussed. So I move it back, and let's have a proper discussion if we want to move it. Herostratus ( talk) 03:59, 23 April 2017 (UTC) reply

Survey

  • Oppose as initiator, for the reasons given below. This is an advisory nomination.

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See WP:COMMONNAME and WP:OFFICIALNAME. According to this 2015 Boston Globe article, the John Hancock Insurance Company has left the building and the owners are not allowed to use the old name (John Hancock Tower) anymore, legally, so apparently they chose the singularly uninspiring "200 Clarendon Street" (I would have gone with "Big Boy", but they didn't ask me).

The thing is, nobody calls it that. They still call it the Hancock Tower or the John Hancock Tower, or sometimes the New Hancock Building if they're old-timers, or maybe just the Hancock. I've never heard anybody call it "200 Clarendon Street" although granted I don't get into town that much.

This may change over time, but AFAIK it hasn't yet. Indeed the article I pointed to above is title "So, what should we call the John Hancock Tower now?" and it's a reasonable question -- for the future going forward. We are not a crystal ball are we constrained to legal names for our article titles.

I like to consult Google Ngram on WP:COMMONNAME issues, and the Google Ngram says that "John Hancock Tower" wipes the floor with "200 Clarendon Street", granted it only goes to 2008 and there are probably other John Hancock Towers in there, such as the Chicago one. Google Hits are not much use, but FWIW there are about 10x hits for "John Hancock Tower" over "200 Clarendon Street". Order of magnitude. If anybody has better data, it's most welcome. Herostratus ( talk) 04:14, 23 April 2017 (UTC) reply

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Windows problem in the lede

I just read through the article and was a bit surprised that the problem of the popping-out windows doesn't appear in the lede. It's probably the best-known thing about the building. Ishboyfay ( talk) 05:42, 10 January 2020 (UTC) reply

Mention of PS4 Resemblance?

Most likely under "In popular culture", I think we should add something like "many popular internet forums point out the resemblance between the tower and the Playstation 4" Thoughts?

AmrAlWatan( 🗣️| 📝) 21:02, 26 January 2024 (UTC) reply

John Hancock Trivia unnecessary

The last paragraph in the lede just restates that the tower’s nickname came from the insurance company who financed and originally occupied it, then irrelevantly explains the insurance company is named after John Hancock, and then further explains that John Hancock is notable for his large signature on the DoI and this led to using “Hancock” as a euphemism for signature.

None of this belongs in the lede. When discussing the buildings development, a sentence noting that the insurance company was named after the founding father with a link to his article would be appropriate. The trivia about Hancock’s signature is completely off- topic unless there is a source indicating some connection between the building and his signature. 2600:1700:B0B1:0:3551:15DF:747F:84F4 ( talk) 18:44, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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