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This is absurd; the word 'American' does not refer to white/fair/unfair/whatever... If you are referring to origins and ancestries, check another entry in wikimedia at [1]
Quoting from someone whose only claim to fame is owning a anti-immigration web-site makes no sense. America has been proud of 'attracting talent from all parts of the world'; when did this become a race issue?!?
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.112.161.122 ( talk) 03:19, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
THe statement that the white population has been in decline is a white supremacist lie. The white population in America is still growing.
Please note that for statistical purposes US gov is including some hispanics as “white”, as well as mixed-white population. Overal the actual white population has been decreasing in absolute numbers too. Percentagewise whites have also decreased. Lastly they were never consulted on this fundamental topic. (I’m asian btw)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.219.166.30 ( talk) 19:01, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
Did this act also increase Latino immigration?
no
Agreed. This article reads like a post on a white-supremacist forum. While this law's after effects are discussed at great length, there is very little attention paid to the details of law itself. On the supposed effects of this law, not enough references are cited--I don't mean to say that what's stated is flat out false, but if this law caused such a "huge change" in America, there ought to be certainly more published material (in addition to a David Frum book and a Boston Globe article) discussing this law's after effects, right? Deye8119 ( talk) 19:07, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Before the act was installed America was over 90 percent white and the asian community was almost dead. Now America is 69.1 percent white and the asians are the 3rd largest minority group. The white population dies every year while the minority population grows. The line should be reinstated its factually accurate. This is an encyclopedia not an opinion page. Pls look for facts before you remove things.
JJstroker 06:09, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
It may be factually accurate, but the text implies that the white population of the U.S. is not growing at all, which is not true. It may not be growing as fast as other populations, but that is not the same thing. It should be altered.
NYPapo 06:27, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
There is no factual authority on the web that will corroborate with the name, "Immigration and Naturalization Services Act of 1965", as identified in the text of this article. Note that the name differs from the name at the head of this page.
Rather, we can see "Hart-Cellar Act"; "Immigration Reform Act." Administrators or anyone else, please resolve this discrepancy. No corroboration can even be found for "Immigration and Nationality Services Act of 1965." (Those very few instances can be considered as coming from this wikipedia error. This is a major piece of legislation; too important to let sit uncorrected and imprecise. Dogru144 00:30, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Explain the purpose of the act and what it did more directly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.233.38.187 ( talk) 02:45, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Apparently, someone forgot to mention to the US lawmakers that Hispanic/Latino is not a race but an ethnic makeup. Why on earth did they single out an entire ethnic group, lump them all together and seperate them from the rest of the ethnicities? Think about it. Apparently, Anglos, Italians, Germans and Nords can all mark down white/non-hispanic, while Hispanics (who are a White European sub-set) are lumped in with other races? That is as foolish as Europeans labeling all African American and Native American immigrants as ANGLO because they speak an ANGLO language, have ANGLO names and have a similar ANGLO culture from an ANGLO derived country. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.248.172.10 ( talk) 21:50, 1 February 2007 (UTC).
I think the answer has to do with consequences resulting from the Monroe Doctrine, that migration to the U.S. from the Western Hemisphere was not greatly restricted until the 1920's. Moreover, for the purposes of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, all Mexican citizens were declared "white" for purposes of the law, even though socially and judicially they were not given all the rights of "white" people. NYPapo 06:25, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Your standpoint is predominately invalid, as this article is to have an impartial tone unless otherwise connotated by the article's intention to address such standpoints. To answer your question, however, it is a discrimanatory act in sofar as it does in fact single out a particular group of people, but this is justifiable due to the way in which this particular group is acting and moreover entering the country illegally. 21:57, 13 February (EST).
It's kind of silly that the 1965 amendments to the Immigration and Nationality Act should have its own article. It is commonly referred to as the "INA as amended," and 1965 is but one of the more important amendments (1989 and 2001 also had significant changes). We should probably be merging this as a section of the main article. Hwonder talk contribs 23:47, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
This article reads as highly prejudicial, think it needs a rewrite. I understand that immigration and race are sensitive topics, but its no excuse for poor encyclopedic quality. 68.213.40.127 ( talk) 21:33, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
not only does it read as highly prejudicial, but it reads like a blatant criticism of JFK, which it is. Who could possible think that "This statement would be more accurate with the "not's" removed" is any kind of way to write a balanced article. Not only should this be rewritten, but whomever wrote this should be banned.-- 71.82.130.41 ( talk) 02:30, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Apostrophes do not plurals make. 14.203.77.97 ( talk) 23:37, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
Here's the thing ... This article was absolute crap. No citations, no supporting data, nothing but cut and paste crap. The use of the word "white" was rather "supremacist" as well, especially when dealing with non-European countries ('NOTE': not non-White).
In the end, this act dramatically changed the face of American society by making it a multicultural and multiethnic nation. In opinion of the author of this article, the main reason for the Immigration Act of 1965 was the Civil Rights Movement. The Civil Rights Movement was to rid America of racial/ethnic discrimination. Two other bills, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965, Johnson signed for the same reason. The Immigration Act was therefore a corrective measure instituted to atone for past history of discrimination in immigration.
In [the] opinion of the author of this article, ... Where, in Wikipedia, does this phrase belong? Including this qualifier invalidates anything else the author has to say. The section was removed in its entirety.
Two earlier laws reflecting this discrimination were the National Origins Act of the 1924 and the McCarran-Walter Act of 1952. Both of these granted residency on the basis of national origin, and were particularly discriminative towards Asians. For instance, under the McCarran-Walter Act, while the quota for European immigrants was 149,667, the quota for Asian immigrants was 2,990, and the African quota was 1,400.
With the removal of the 'opinion' section, this section lost its relevance and was also removed. Also, there are no citations for the data.
The Immigration Act of 1965, therefore, shifted the focus to non-European countries, especially those of the third world. Both Johnson and President Kennedy wished that by reforming immigration law, they would not only gain auspicious international relations (especially with non-White nations), but they would also confirm Americas bedrock principles of America being a free country, where everyone is considered equal.
This section was reworded and remains mostly intact.
The preference in the law for skilled workers changed the traditional pathway to immigration which lead to difficulties for manual laborers from countries such as Mexico in obtaining legal permission to enter the United States.
Poor word choices, no tie-in with the rest of the article, extraneous mention of one Nationality, no references. Removed completely.
Immigrants granted residency in America are now considered for admittance based on skill or for family reunification. More specifically, immigrants are accepted according to following preferences: fiance(e)s of American citizens who have promised to marry those American citizens (they receive K-1 visas); unmarried adults whose parents are American citizens, spouses and offspring of permanent residents, gifted professionals, scientists, and artists. The last preferences are the following: married offspring of American citizens, siblings of adult citizens, skilled/unskilled individuals of occupations lacking workers in America, and refugees from either communist (or communist-controlled) countries, or those from the Middle-East. The Immigration Act of 1965 became law on July 1, 1968. Even though the Immigration Act of 1965 was not implemented to bring an immediate end to discrimination, it was definitely seen as a major contributor in ending it.
No transitory explanation for inclusion of modern standards in a historical review. No basis for comparison between eras at this level of detail. Poorly worded. 'The Immigration Act of 1965' became law on July 1, 1968. salvaged, reworded, and remains as the last line of the article. The last sentence of the section is opinion and does not belong in an encyclopedic article.
According to recent Census data (see "U.S. Fertility Rate Hits 35-Year High, Stabilizing Population" in external links for details), the entire post-1970 population growth in the U.S. is due to foreign immigration. Since 1971, the fertility rate of the native population stayed below the replacement level of 2.1 children per woman during her lifetime, and only recently reached the replacement level due to high fertility rates of Hispanics.
- U.S. Fertility Rate Hits 35-Year High, Stabilizing Population, December 21, 2007
I am unclear as to why this is even relevant. The final phrase of the section is patently stereotypical and inflammatory. It has no place in this article. If a section on 'Effects of the Immigration and Nationality Law of 1965' were included, a summary of the linked-to story could be included, but leave the conclusions to the original author.
This article needs more work by people without an agenda to push. See also:
Signed this date by: Reverend Lee ( talk) 12:13, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Bruxism posted a {{ pov}} tag here, saying "A number of editors have noted this article is POV, and no one has touched it since May". Comments? -- Boracay Bill ( talk) 10:05, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
The article mentions "Kennedy". Which Kennedy? JFK? If Johnson was president at the time that seems unlikely. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kenhullett ( talk • contribs) 00:57, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm sorry but the last paragraph is just offensive in its implications.
Quote: "The waves of immigration has raised both possibilities and problems. Many immigrants have taken advantage of the abundance of opportunities in the US. The Vietnamese refugees from 1975 have an average income above the national average. Asians and Pacific Islanders constituted one-fifth of the students in California's public universities by 2000."
What the hell?
Abundance of opportunities? For whom? Definitely not for those who are discriminated.
And "taken advantage"? That's sounds like something bad, something wrong to do (the way the paragraph is phrased gives that impression, at least), while making the most of your life is nothing wrong. So new-ish immigrants have done well in the US, according to this quote, and that is called "taking advantage of" America's "abundance"? Is immigrants being largely represented (allegedly) in universities "problematic"? How? People immigrate to the US to have a better life and that's seen as a problem? Why would they immigrate otherwise? Why let them in if you (referring to the person who wrote this) want them to lead unsuccessful lives and to not educate themselves? People don't come to the US to be slaves for a Master. Not voluntarily.
Oh how awful that those refugees manage to make more than average Joe. And damn those Asians for being ambitious.
Another quote: "The problems have centered on questions of multicultural identity as opposed to the melting-pot idea, debates on the economic impact of immigration, impact of illegal immigration, and fears of becoming a polyglot nation with English not the primary language."
That is not a genuine "problem" as it is called, that is speculation, paranoia and xenophobia. The problem is not with immigration but with those "worried" about it. Truthbomb: America has always been a "polyglot" (I guess you mean multilingual) "nation" (you mean society, right?). Those people who worry about English not being the "primary" language (again what does that mean?) must be clueless and as such don't deserve a mention on a serious Wikipedia article.--
109.196.118.133 (
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Is it worth adding something about Ann Coulter's outspoken opposition to the law and her claim that it has had a negative effect on American demography? I am referring to her article "America Nears El Tipping Pointo" (< http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2012-12-05.html>). Poldy Bloom ( talk) 03:05, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
Perhaps someone with a legal background could add and address this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.170.35.122 ( talk) 21:06, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
Can someone who is an expert please correct or clarify the following? This act is described as having abolished immigration quotas, yet the article describes the new system imposed by this act as also restricted by a quota system.
The first line of the second paragraph reads: "The Hart-Celler Act abolished the national origins quota system..." The second line of that same paragraph, describing the new system, reads: "Numerical restrictions on visas were set at 170,000 per year, with a per-country-of-origin quota..."
So which is it? Were national-origins quotas abolished, or not? Or are national-origins quotas and country-origins quotas substantially different concepts? If so, please clarify.
Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdobrienhaiti13 ( talk • contribs) 14:25, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
I have restructured the article in various ways. The article still needs many major changes, especially the "Long-Term Impact" section. Various of the references are questionable or sometimes there are no references listed.
So this line at the bottom has nothing to do with the immigration and nationality act of 1965. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:100D:B00D:C424:6CAF:DECE:3B4:14E1 ( talk) 20:12, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
This edit, which raised a concern about the use of these terms in this article caught my eye. I don't agree that the fix applied by the edit is a good one, but I've let it stand for now and am raising the matter for discussion by regular editors of this article.
However, I have removed the part of the sentence there which read, " and consequently a more ethnically diverse population." I looked at the two supporting sources cited and did not find support for that. One of the sources cited says, "Feighan insisted on “family unification” as the top priority in immigration policy under the 1965 Act, rather than “employability.” His thought was that favoring those immigrants who already had relatives in the United States would serve to maintain the existing ethnic profile of the country. Instead, that change led to the phenomenon of chain migration, which came to be the driving force in immigration in future years.", which isn't what the article asserted. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 06:14, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
Snooganssnoogans nearly instantly reverted my March 3 edit without explanation. I posted on his talk page the same day, and it is now March 8th and he has not responded (nor has he responded to any of the other editors' posts on his talk page). So I'm posting here as a step before requesting a third opinion. I'm new to this dispute thing, and I'm trying to do it right.
My edit replaced "and unintentionally" with direct quotes from the already-cited NPR article. The article did not conclude that the demographic change was unintentional; at best, it presented multiple viewpoints on that question.
My new sentence with its direct quotes was: The change "was not popular," so "many in Congress had argued that little would change," but a Customs and Immigration Services booklet predicted "rapid" chain migration of "foreign-born minorities."
If he didn't like my edit, I welcomed him to improve it. But to simply revert it without even a comment is unfair. I edited the Wikipedia article because the language was misleading and inaccurate. If we disagree, we should be able to come up with wording that reflects the complexity of the topic by quoting and citing sources and not stating our own personal conclusions.
Exmartian
Thanks for the information, Toby. What I'd like to get into the Wikipedia article is the raw fact from the cited NPR article at http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5391395 that an official publication of Customs and Immigration Services accurately predicted "rapid" chain migration of "foreign-born minorities." The reason I read the article was because it was cited as the source of the statement in the Wikipedia article that the demographic change was unintentional, which surprised me, and yet the article reaches no such conclusion. It doesn't indicate a consensus either. In any case, even if there were a consensus, it's still just a matter of opinion, which can never be a matter of fact, whether Feighan believed what he said or knew better. But what Customs and Immigration Services knew, based on their detailed data and models, is not a matter of opinion, but of hard fact on paper. Also, the article doesn't mention Asia, and the booklet predicts immigration based on foreign-born minorities already in the US, so if Asia were barred before then Asians would not be part of the predicted migration. Could you suggest a non-partisan way to summarize the following paragraph from the NPR article into a sentence in the Wikipedia article:
"In 1965, the political elite on Capitol Hill may not have predicted a mass increase in immigration. But Marian Smith, the historian for Customs and Immigration Services, showed me a small agency booklet from 1966 that certainly did. It explains how each provision in the new law would lead to a rapid increase in applications and a big jump in workload -- more and more so as word trickled out to those newly eligible to come. Smith says a lifetime of immigration backlogs had built up among America's foreign-born minorities. These immigrants would petition for relatives to come to the United States, and those relatives in turn would petition for other family members. Demand from post-colonial countries in Asia and Africa, she notes, jumped after World War II."
Exmartian ( talk) 14 March 2018
The article seems to disagree with you. You write, "the backlog would have been from Europeans." The article says, "a lifetime of immigration backlogs had built up among America's foreign-born minorities." The Europeans aren't minorities. The paragraph also says, "as word trickled out to those newly eligible to come", so it's talking about non-Europeans who weren't allowed to come before, since the Europeans were allowed to come before. Also, I think you might be implying that the "rapid" migration of "foreign-born minorities" was unexpected, when that's literally what the booklet predicted, regardless of what you think of the booklet's reasoning. That prediction is the one fact I'm trying to add to the Wikipedia article.
Look, as Wikipedia editors, it's not our job to analyze history, but to state the facts as given by outside sources. In fact, it's against Wikipedia policy to do our own analysis. I believe my original edit is directly supported by the article, particularly since most of it consists of direct quotes from the article:
But I'm willing to change my edit in any way that preserves the one fact that I'm trying to get in there, the prediction made by the official Customs and Immigration booklet at the time (which, even if some in Congress hadn't read, surely LBJ was informed of by his own Immigration department). But I don't mention LBJ, since we can at most speculate. I'm just focused on a single fact which most people don't know. I'm guessing that, even as a history professor, you didn't know about the Customs & Immigration publication either.
Exmartian ( talk) 14 March 2018
I'm sure any change I make will be immediately reverted by Snooganssnoogans. Toby, do you have experience in Wikipedia's dispute resolution process? The Wikipedia:Dispute resolution page refers to getting a third opinion "for small disputes involving only two editors, but the Wikipedia:Third opinion page says to discuss on the article's talk page first, by which point there are more than 2 opinions. Another option it lists is the Wikipedia:Requests for comment process.
Would you support my edit if I simply add this sentence (followed by the existing link to the NPR article):
My preference is also to get in the NPR article's quote about the law being unpopular, so would you support:
Hey! I spent a few months working on research into this topic and I have a small library of peer reviewed articles on the topic that might be very relevant or your work on the article. I think the approach you're taking that takes a more critical view of the motivations of the act is very much in line with the academic research. I'm happy to share these with you if you contact my talk page I can get you contact info! Paolorausch ( talk) 22:34, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
it should be mentioned in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.57.205.41 ( talk) 18:21, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
per Illegal_entry#United_States
There is no explanation of this here that I can see. It deserves an entire section. What was the treatment of illegal entry in 1964 and earlier? Was it still a misdemeanor? A lesser crime? A greater one? Whether it made a change or maintained a policy, as the most recent law still in effect, an explanation on this important issue would be valuable. ScratchMarshall ( talk) 19:24, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
Sec. 275. [8 U.S.C. 1325] (a) Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, United States Code, or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, United States Code, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both. [...]
Some sources assert that this alteration was intentional; [Note 1] others assert that it was unintentional. [Note 2]
- ^ Myer Feldman, Deputy Counsel to President John F. Kennedy and Counsel to President Lyndon B. Johnson; stated that both Kennedy and Johnson believed that "[w]hether the immigrant was from Asia, Africa, Italy or eastern Europe, or whether the immigrant was from England, France or Belgium, was not an acceptable basis for discrimination between them." Speaking of Asian immigration, Feldman wrote: "[W]e did expect there would be an increase and we welcomed it." [1] [2]
- ^ Columnist Tom Gjelten writes, "Almost no one realized the legislation would result in a demographic transformation of the United States, with a new population of unprecedented diversity." [3]
- ^ Chin, Gabriel J. (1996). "The Civil Rights Revolution Comes to Immigration Law: A New Look at the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965". North Carolina Law Review. 75 (1): 273–345. SSRN 1121504.
- ^ Chin, Gabriel J. (2015). "Were the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 Amendments Antiracist?". In Chin, Gabriel J.; Villazor, Rose Cuison (eds.). The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965: Legislating a New America. New York: Cambridge University Press. p. 27. ISBN 978-1-107-08411-7.
- ^ Gjelten, Tom (September 25, 2015). "The unintended consequences of a 50-year-old U.S. immigration bill". The Washington Post.
Chin (source #1) does conclude that the Act was intended to "take race out of America's immigration policy", but in opposition to what he calls "the standard view that Congress did not anticipate a change in the racial demographics of the immigration stream" ( link). Likewise, Chin (source #2) states, "many [scholars] contend that the demographic shift was unwelcome and unanticipated" ( link). So " some sources" here really refers to Chin himself. I suggest eliminating the weasel words and getting rid of source #3, an opinion column by a non-expert. — Sangdeboeuf ( talk) 09:27, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
I expect language like this existed prior to 1965 giving birthright citizenship if one parent is a citizen, but I'm not sure what section it would have been in the preceding Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952. Would anyone know, and if it was altered in any way? WakandaQT ( talk) 05:25, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
I'm unsure as to which wikipedia page should discuss the disputed Section 235 of the INA, and I'm confused as to why it's not even mentioned in this article. See https://cis.org/Arthur/SCOTUS-Biden-Must-Continue-Implement-Remain-Mexico-Good-Faith for details on why Section 235 seems important - yet wikipedia returns no results when searched for "section 235". Help? Oathed ( talk) 17:19, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
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"Effective1 December 1965; 57 years ago 1 July 1968; 55 years ago" This is unclear. When did it become effective? Polar Apposite ( talk) 20:02, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
Under LEGACY, the last sentence of the 1st paragraph reads: "If the bill and its subsequent immigration waves since had not been passed, it is estimated by Pew Research that the U.S. would have been in 2015: 75% Non-Hispanic White, 14% Black, 8% Hispanic and less than 1% Asian."
But should there not be another sentence that tells what the actual demographics are? Someone please add. Thanks 170.85.56.96 ( talk) 21:02, 8 March 2024 (UTC)