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Lead rewrite

I've added a "Lead rewrite" template to the article. I haven't gone over the whole thing, but the first paragraph does not summarize the article as required by WP:LEAD. Let's look at it:

George Harvey Strait (born May 18, 1952) is an American country music singer, songwriter, actor, and music producer. He is known as the "King of Country"[1] and is considered one of the most influential and popular recording artists of all time.[2] He is known for his neotraditionalist country style, cowboy look, and being one of the first and main country artists to bring country music back to its roots and away from the pop country era in the 1980s.

Almost none of this is even mentioned in the article, much less supported by sources. "King of Country", "influential", "popular", "neotraditionalist", "cowboy look", and "pop country" are never mentioned. This problem is creeping in to the infobox too, with the recent addition of "Western Swing" with no source. Even the roles are questionable. "Producer" is only mentioned twice briefly in a table, and there is no evidence that this is a notable role for Strait.

If the first paragraph is this bad, I suspect the rest of the lead is too, hence the rewrite template. Kendall-K1 ( talk) 16:12, 4 December 2017 (UTC) reply

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Question about record #1s

In the Discography section, it reads:

"George Strait has garnered 61 number-one songs on all country charts (including Mediabase 24/7, the former Radio & Records chart, and the now-defunct Gavin Report chart), and has more number-one hits than any other artist in any genre."

This is misleading as it implies that Strait has more number-one hits than anybody else and that isn't true. Madonna has 157, more than any other artist. I think the section is trying to say that other artists have hits across genres, Strait's are all for Country, but even that is misleading because his #1s are split across various charts. Madonna just got her 50th Dance Club #1 which is the most by any artist for any single chart.

I'm not sure how best to express what is being said because the vagueness of terms like "genre" compared to "chart" doesn't make things clear. Rrhain ( talk) 22:18, 17 February 2020 (UTC)Rrhain reply

Count of number hits?

Would a table of all of George Strait's number-one singles, sorted by which publication they hit number one on, be an appropriate application of WP:CALC to corroborate the widely-cited "60 number ones" statistic? Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 17:51, 24 March 2022 (UTC) reply

What is the best way to handle the tally of number-one hits associated with him? The 60 number is so ingrained with reputable sources pertaining to him, but as we tend to use only Billboard charts, his singles discography there yields a total of only 44. Some sources say "16 on Mediabase", but this is anchronisti

  1. I've been told that " Run" was included on the 50 Number Ones album for having peaked at #1 on Gavin Report, but was unable to locate a chart verifying as such. While worldradiohistory.com does have back issues of Gavin Report from this era, they do not include the charts. Entering gavin.com into the Wayback Machine did not yield any charts from that era.
  2. Gavin Report used Mediabase chart data at least in its later years, but ceased publication in early 2002 shortly after "Run" had peaked. It's unclear who used the Mediabase data before Bob Kingsley's Country Top 40 started syndicating it in early 2006. The publication Country Aircheck is cited for the number 1 position achieved on Mediabase for " Give It All We Got Tonight", a song which only peaked at #2 on Billboard.
  3. The only source I remember explicitly stating that the 60 total included non-Billboard and Mediabase charts was again, Bob Kingsley's Country Top 40 where Kingsley said "all trade publications, past and present". However, I don't think a radio countdown show can be cited as a source, especially given that I can't find any recordings of it archived anywhere.
  4. To pick just one song at random that appears on 50 Number Ones, " True" can be confirmed as having reached number 1 on Radio & Records through this publication (scroll down to page 62).
  5. " Lead On" is also on 50 Number Ones. I have confirmed that it reached number one on Gavin Report as the Gavin Report issue for the week after (scroll to page 40) lists a "#1" in the "last week" column. For comparison, it only got to #7 on Billboard and #5 on Radio & Records (scroll to page 88).

Especially given how a.) he has an album titled 50 Number Ones and b.) he got a lot of publicity for the "60 for 60" movement with "Give It All We Got Tonight", it would seem strange to omit the 60 count from his article entirely.

Given that most of the non-Billboard chart publications of the era are archived at worldradiohistory.com, would it be an appropriate application of WP:CALC to make a table indicating which songs reached number one on which chart? Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 17:51, 24 March 2022 (UTC) reply

@ TenPoundHammer: what is your brief and neutral statement? At over 3,000 bytes, the statement above (from the {{ rfc}} tag to the next timestamp) is far too long for Legobot ( talk · contribs) to handle, and so it is not being shown correctly at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies. The RfC may also not be publicised through WP:FRS until a shorter statement is provided. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 21:12, 24 March 2022 (UTC) reply
@ Redrose64:: Here's my WP:RFCBRIEF:

Would a table of all of George Strait's number-one singles, sorted by which publication they hit number one on, be an appropriate application of WP:CALC to corroborate the widely-cited "60 number ones" statistic?

Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 21:18, 24 March 2022 (UTC) reply
OK, that needs to be the first thing after the {{ rfc}} tag. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 21:50, 24 March 2022 (UTC) reply

Comment, the lead says "Give It All We Got Tonight" was number one in 2013, breaking a record.., clicking the reference, it is about the "USA TODAY's country airplay chart", which makes me think, is the "60 number-one hits" claim counting every chart possible from everywhere? Cornerstonepicker ( talk) 22:28, 26 March 2022 (UTC) reply

  • @ Cornerstonepicker: At the time, USA Today used the Mediabase charts. The 60 figure would have to include every American chart at least, as my reserach above proved that some songs were #1 on solely Radio & Records, and some solely on Gavin Report. What I'm looking for is the best way to attribute the 60 figure, as only 44 of the 60 were on Billboard, which is what most music articles use. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 17:29, 30 March 2022 (UTC) reply

Relationship to Jeff Bezos

I removed the reference to George Strait as Jeff Bezos' cousin. In fact, he is the second cousin of Bezos' mother [1]. That is a fairly distant relationship, and they do not seem to regard each other as family. Illexsquid ( talk) 00:09, 5 August 2022 (UTC) reply

References

  1. ^ https://tasteofcountry.com/george-strait-jeff-bezos-related-cousins/

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