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Nonbinary people should be mentioned. For example, under "other surgeries", there could be a line that says "for nonbinary people, these surgeries may include any of these"
76.106.22.9 (
talk) 21:01, 21 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Hello, I asked to please include nullification surgery for non binary and agender people in this article, since it's about "Gender Confirmation Surgery". But I don't have an account and the article is locked.
This article looks gender as a binary. I hope we can make a change, since this is not about "sex reassignment surgery".
186.34.109.70 (
talk) 13:58, 14 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Hello, do you have any reliable sources related to nullification? I'm happy to add in anything that aligns with Wikipedia standards.
I've added in references to operations pursued by non-binary people, however since medical practices are primarily structured around binary concepts there isn't a lot to work from. Please keep in mind that as an encyclopedia, Wikipedia is a synthesis of published material (
WP:SYNTH) and as such can only represent well documented practices.
Lastchapter (
talk) 16:05, 14 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Here is the link to the non binary description of surgeries provided by The Crane Center, the one mentioned in the article, where they interviewed Dr.Curtis Crane
https://cranects.com/non-binary-surgery/
I hope this could help to add at least a little information regarding non binary options that people are actually looking for, but are still not well known or even seen as taboo.
These could have information that can be used to expand the scope of the article.
Unfortunately, these sources are not open access. Those who have subscriptions to ScienceDirect and/or Taylor & Francis can share more content from the full text.
I added in the Vice article and did some formatting. I'm not entirely sure what belongs in the terminology vs surgery sections. Seems important to have descriptions in both, yet somehow not overly-redundant.
Lastchapter (
talk) 13:46, 29 September 2023 (UTC)reply
There's a lot of ongoing research on nullification surgery, so the uncertainty about current information is understandable.
This is highly appreciated, Lastchapter. Thank you for contributions. —
CrafterNova[ TALK ][ CONT ] 15:56, 29 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Thank you very much, your work is highly appreciated.
186.34.109.70 (
talk) 04:36, 1 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Question: What is the effect of testosterone therapy compared with no treatment on gender dysphoria, depression, and suicidality in transgender and gender-diverse adults seeking masculinization?
Findings: In this 3-month open-label randomized clinical trial of 64 transgender and gender-diverse adults, there was a statistically significant decrease in gender dysphoria in individuals with immediate compared with delayed initiation of testosterone therapy. A clinically significant decrease in depression and a decrease in suicidality also occurred with immediate testosterone therapy.
Meaning The findings of this trial suggest that testosterone therapy significantly decreases gender dysphoria, depression, and suicidality in transgender and gender-diverse individuals desiring testosterone therapy.
Conclusions and Relevance: In this open-label randomized clinical trial of testosterone therapy in transgender and gender-diverse adults, immediate testosterone compared with no treatment significantly reduced gender dysphoria, depression, and suicidality in transgender and gender-diverse individuals desiring testosterone therapy.
The article lacks information about Nullification surgery for agender people, as Gender-affirming surgery.
I can't edit since the article is closed and I do not own an account. Thanks in advance.
186.34.109.70 (
talk) 23:00, 11 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Indeed. The article is quite complete regarding binary gender identities (masculine and feminine) and some of those procedures are used by non-binary people, but it lacks information about nullification surgery, which is used by some non-binary amab and agender people currently, it's becoming available in the US.
186.34.109.70 (
talk) 17:38, 12 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Confirmation?
When did Gender "Reassignment" Surgery become Gender "Affirming" Surgery? Given that at least some people have undergone surgery and subsequently regretted it, "affirmation" seems like an inappropriately decisive term. There's a whiff of "agenda pushing" coming through.
86.14.43.73 (
talk) 12:09, 31 December 2023 (UTC)reply
I agree with OP. "Gender-affirming" is the official newspeak term now, but it's a gross misrepresentation of what it actually is and it's a politically loaded, agenda-pushing term that simply doesn't belong here. I would elaborate further, but I'm sure that, if I did so, several posters would go crying to the admins over someone spreading "transphobic hate speech" on a talk page. Regardless, "sex reassignment surgery" - which is also highly misleading, but not quite as much so - is certainly a far more neutral term for this article to be titled on a website that supposedly prides itself for its neutrality.--
LadybugStardust (
talk) 22:51, 29 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Dora Richter's whereabouts known until 1939.
Apologies if this is not the place to post this, I don't generally edit and am not sure where to request a change on a protected article.
The section on the history of gender-affirming surgery states that Dora Richter's whereabouts are unknown after 1933, and that she is presumed to have died in that year. This appears to be out of synch with her own page, which states that she survived the destruction of the Institute and was alive and living as a woman in 1939.
2001:464B:A1CA:0:9065:799F:F8E9:C18F (
talk) 13:43, 23 January 2024 (UTC)reply
@
2001:464B:A1CA:0:9065:799F:F8E9:C18F: Thank you for your interest in this article! I've just stumbled accros this and you're right, this just seem out of sync. The sources given in this article didn't seem particularly suitable for such a claim in any case so I've removed this - I haven't added about her whereabouts being known in 1939 as I think it is a little off-topic in general. TL;DR: this change is DoneGnocchiFan (
talk) 20:43, 15 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Update surgery requirements with the SOC-8
The requirement to have a "1 period of real-life experience living in the desired gender" before being allowed to have gender reassignment surgery has been dropped in the newest revision of the SOC. Now the only requirement is to have 1 years of HRT hormones if cross-sex hormones are wanted and not contra-indicated
As is said in the SOC-8: "6.12.g- The adolescent had at least 12 months of gender-affirming hormone therapy or longer, if required, to achieve the desired surgical result for gender-affirming procedures, including breast augmentation, orchiectomy, vaginoplasty, hysterectomy, phalloplasty, metoidioplasty, and facial surgery as part of gender-affirming treatment unless hormone therapy is either not desired or is medically contraindicated."
DigitalDruidNL (
talk) 18:43, 2 April 2024 (UTC)reply