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As you can see in this post Wikipedia:COIN#Introduction_regarding_Full_Sail_University my employer is Full Sail University. I’d like to participate in the discussions about this article, in an effort to help the article better comply with Wikipedia article standards. I’m aware that this presents a conflict of interest, and so I've carefully read the WP:COI guidelines, and intend to follow them closely. Where I am discussing content related to the Full Sail University article, I will limit myself to proposing changes as opposed to making the changes myself. I've made this declaration on my user page as well.
So right now, the article contains information about the campus, however does not have a dedicated campus section. Following the WP:UNIGUIDE, I would like to propose that this information be organized into a “Campus” section. I’ve written up a draft of how this could look: User:Tylergarner/sandbox.
Can someone please review my proposed draft of this new section and provide feedback? -- Tylergarner ( talk) 21:10, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
Hello,
Following up on the prior conversation above, I have gone ahead and written drafts for the Academics, Students Life, and Noted People sections. Similar to my previous submission, can someone please review these section revisions and provide feedback, or implement them into the article. The drafts are saved here: User:Tylergarner/sandbox
-- Tylergarner ( talk) 16:17, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
The memo was authored by The Florida State Board of Education, and addressed to all State Colleges in Florida. It states that section 1007.24(7), F.S., guarantees the transfer of credit between all participating institutions, and both Florida State and Full Sail University are participating institutions. That said, I have read up on WP:SYNTHESIS, and understand that making such a point would be considered original research.
Therefore, I recognize your point here. I have made an additional edit in my sandbox to reflect this information. Please provide feedback on the additions. Thank you, -- Tylergarner ( talk) 16:14, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
Hello, the existing History section in the article lacks citation and skips several parts of the History. I've written a draft to address these problems, citing reliable sources along the way. As mentioned before, I do not wish to implement this draft myself due to my conflict of interest. Would anyone else here be able to take a look? The draft is saved here: User:Tylergarner/sandbox -- Tylergarner ( talk) 21:02, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
News just broke that WWE NXT will be taping their shows on campus starting next week. It hasn't been officially announced yet, so this is just a heads up for when it does. Swamphunter ( talk) 23:38, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
An IP and a new editor have repeatedly removed a sentence saying that TA Associates is the owner of Full Sail. The sentence is cited to a story in The New York Times: "Romney Offers Praise for a Donor’s Business". The new editor said to me on my talk page that the NYT made an error. I asked for a published statement by the NYT retracting the supposed error, but I don't think there is one. Huffington Post supported the NYT statement in at least two articles. Furthermore, there are webpages and online brochures supporting the idea that TA Associates owns and manages Full Sail. For instance, TA Associates lists Full Sail as one of their "active portfolio" companies. TA Associates Managing Director Jeffrey S. Barber is on the board of directors at Full Sail. TA Associates Managing Director Roger B. Kafker is a board observer at Full Sail. TA Associates Principal William D. Christ is "an active investor in Full Sail", among others. MarketWatch printed a TA Associates PR release saying "Mr. Christ played an active role in the firm's 2011 investment in Full Sail..."
On the other hand, the Des Moines Register published a USA Today piece saying that TA Associates "has a minority ownership stake in Full Sail." This makes me wonder: who owns the largest stake in Full Sail? No other reliable source is revealing anyone other than TA Associates. Until something is reliably published, we go with what we have. Binksternet ( talk) 19:32, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
The body of this article is well written, however, I'd like to propose a few changes to the Lead paragraph and the info box to bring them up to WP:Lead standards. Similar to my previous submission, can someone please review the section revisions and provide feedback, or implement into the article. I’ve saved a draft in my sandbox: User:Tylergarner/sandbox.
In addition, I'd like to propose that the Advert tag be removed, as it no longer applies to this article. -- Tylergarner ( talk) 04:15, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
Two changes made here and here focus on the university's accreditation. How the sentence is arranged seems to introduce bias in a way that side-steps the WP:NPOV Policy, which states that Wikipedians should "prefer nonjudgemental language." I'm aware that I am too close to the subject, as mentioned on WP:COI as well as my User Page, and would prefer if someone else made an editorial decision regarding this topic. -- Tylergarner ( talk) 21:38, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
There was a request for semi-protection on RfPP, because someone keeps adding that it has no regional accreditation. It looks more like a content dispute, because the issue of regional accreditation might be important, so I've added full protection for three days. If this is a mistake, please ping me. Sarah (SV) (talk) 00:48, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
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Hello, I've returned to propose some additional updates to the Wikipedia article. As noted on my User Page, I am here on my behalf of my employer Full Sail University. I'd like to start by suggesting some simple improvements to the infobox.
Currently, the infobox says there are 16,100 students and points to this source, which actually says there are 15,500 students, as of 2017. Can the infobox be updated accordingly? Alternatively, there is this Full Sail University source, which says there are 15,700 students, as of 2016. I realize this is considered a primary source, so I'll let editors decide which source is preferred and update the infobox appropriately. If helpful, here is markup for the inline citation for the latter link: <ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.fullsail.edu/press-releases/2016/full-sail-university-installs-extensive-focusrite-rednet-system|date=June 8, 2016|accessdate=May 17, 2017|publisher=Full Sail University|title=Full Sail University Installs Extensive Focusrite RedNet System}}</ref>
The same fact brochure ( link) says the campus is 210 acres, not 192. "<ref name="Students"/>" can be added as an inline citation here, or, there is this 2014 source, which mentions 212 acres. I'll let editors decide which source is preferred and update the infobox accordingly. If helpful, here is markup for the inline citation for the latter link: <ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.floridatrend.com/article/16921/floridas-film-industy-a-regional-roundup|title= Florida's film industry: A regional roundup|first1=Lilly|last1=Rockwell|first2=Mike|last2=Vogel|date=March 31, 2014|website=Florida Trend}}</ref>
I'll have some additional requests soon, but figured this and the request for the introduction (below) might be a good way to start. Thanks! Tylergarner ( talk) 17:02, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
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Per the above request, I also have a few requests to update the article's introduction on behalf of my employer, Full Sail.
Thank you in advance for any assistance. Tylergarner ( talk) 13:56, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
Hello, a new section named Criticism was recently published to this article. I’ve since reviewed the policies WP:CRITS and WP:STRUCTURE, which states “try to achieve a more neutral text by folding debates into the narrative, rather than isolating them into sections that ignore or fight against each other.” In order to stay in line with this policy, I would like to propose that the criticism section's contents be moved to existing sections of the article, as explained here. -- Tylergarner ( talk) 01:28, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
Has anyone noticed the statement on Tylergarner's talk page regarding his employment at Full Sail? I think it is a little suspicious that he is asking that the criticism be spread throughout the article, as such a move would most certainly allow for it to be much more difficult to find criticism of the school within it. Mathmagic ( talk) 01:31, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
I would agree with Binksternet. Spreading criticism throughout an article is allowed according to the rules and perfectly normal. I think it's very debatable whether spreading or consolidating under one heading is better or worse for the organization in question. Also Tylergarner has been extremely forthcoming and respectful of Wikipedia's longstanding policies and has made no perceptible effort to be nefarious or subvert the rules. Lets be reasonable. Grama24 ( talk) 18:58, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
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I am submitting an additional edit request on behalf of my employer with updates to the article's "History" section. I realize this request, which has 9 parts, may seem a bit daunting at first glance, but really several of these are quite minor and require little work:
I'll be watching this page to see if editors have any questions or concerns about these proposed changes. Thank you! Tylergarner ( talk) 17:49, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
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Tylergarner Some of these requests seem okay and will be considered for implementation. The Romney bit I think is relevant and noteworthy and removing that would justify the removal of less noteworthy/relevant content that leans in the other direction. In other words it would set a troubling precedent. Thanks for working with the community on this.
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Continuing on the above edit request on behalf of Full Sail (and as part of my work at Beutler Ink), I'd like to propose additional removals of unsourced content in an effort to further improve this article. Same as above, I'm organizing this request by article section, and seek volunteers to review these suggestions and update the article appropriately.
If my math is correct, implementing this and the above request (part 1) would remove 15 inappropriate sources and 12 "citation needed" tags. Additionally, the proposed content removals eliminate use of all Full Sail University sources, so I'm hoping the reviewing editor(s) will consider removing the tag at the top of the article warning readers: "This article may contain improper references to self-published sources." Please let me know if other inline citations need to be addressed in order for this tag to be removed.
In the "Academics" section, I propose removing the following:
The editor(s) reviewing this request can remove these sentences individually, or if preferred, I've prepared markup that reflects all of the removals and can be copy and pasted in the article in place of the current section:
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Academic degree programs are primarily focused on audio, film and media production, [1] video game design, [2] animation [3] and other studies related to the media and entertainment industries. [4] According to The New York Times, Full Sail has many of the same problems as other institutions in the for-profit college industry. [5] They reported that some of the university's academic programs have high loan burdens and low graduation rates. The $81,000 video game art program graduated 38 percent of its students, who carried a median debt load of nearly $59,000 in federal and private loans in 2008. [5] The Times cited other Full Sail degree programs as having higher graduation rates, noting that the master's in entertainment business, "a yearlong program with a $36,245 tuition, graduated 80 percent of its students, nearly 63 percent of them on time." [5] According to Inside Higher Ed, "a closer look at the numbers reveals that graduation rates are not a major problem at Full Sail: the overall graduation rate is a fairly high 78 percent, according to federal data." [6] [7] In the same article, however, The New York Times noted that Full Sail's own students have posted criticisms of the school, including some that call Full Sail a "scam" because of its high costs, low placement, and difficulties with credit transfer. [5] The college was named FAPSC School/College of the Year (an award for which only career colleges in Florida were eligible) by the Florida Association of Postsecondary Schools and Colleges (FAPSC) in 2008 and 2011, [8] 21st-century best practices in distance learning by the United States Distance Learning Association (USDLA) in 2011, [9] and was the recipient of a 2011 New Media Consortium Center for Excellence award. [10] In 2007, Full Sail University offered its first online degree program, a master's degree in Entertainment Business. [11] Full Sail custom-built a learning management system for use with their online courses; the LMS is Macintosh-based, and utilizes content created by an in-house curriculum development team in conjunction with campus-based instructors. [12] [13] Although the university is not regionally accredited, it is nationally accredited by the Accrediting Commission of Career Schools and Colleges (ACCSC). [6] [14] The college has been subject to criticism regarding transferability of credits, as credits from nationally accredited schools often do not transfer to regionally accredited schools. [15] [16] [17] Full Sail has a 55% overall graduation rate and a 21.1% student loan default rate, [18] higher than the national student loan default rate of 11.3%. [19] It is also listed on the Century Foundation's website as a university which includes restrictive clauses in the enrollment contracts, which are intended to minimize the legal recourse available to students in the event of disputes. [20] |
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Academic degree programs are primarily focused on audio, film and media production,<ref name=ocala>{{cite news|last=Crabbe|first=Nathan|title=Trustees vote to extend Machen's contract a year|url=http://www.ocala.com/article/20111201/ARTICLES/111209961?p=2&tc=pg&tc=ar|accessdate=5 January 2012|newspaper=Ocala.com|date=1 December 2011}}</ref> video game design,<ref name="game design foundations">{{cite book|last=Pedersen|first=Roger E.|title=Game design foundations|year=2009|publisher=Wordware Pub.|location=Sudbury, MA|isbn=978-1-59822-034-6|pages=356–357|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=zFkoEVSM2NkC&lpg=PA356&dq=%22Full%20Sail%20University%22&pg=PA356#v=onepage&q=%22Full%20Sail%20University%22&f=false|edition=2nd}}</ref> animation<ref name="arts management">{{cite book|last=Chong|first=Derrick|title=Arts Management (second edition)|year=2010|publisher=Routledge|location=London|isbn=978-0-415-42391-5|page=4|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=iu5Rws8T0-oC&lpg=PA4&dq=%22Full%20Sail%20University%22&pg=PA4#v=onepage&q=%22Full%20Sail%20University%22&f=false|edition=2nd}}</ref> and other studies related to the media and entertainment industries.<ref name="conway daily sun">{{cite news|last=Steer|first=Daymond|title=Gifts, chocolate milk and tough questions for Romney during Conway town hall meeting|url=http://www.conwaydailysun.com/node/481274/18661|accessdate=5 January 2012|newspaper=Conway Daily Sun|date=26 December 2011|deadurl=yes|archiveurl=https://archive.is/20130121073904/http://www.conwaydailysun.com/node/481274/18661|archivedate=21 January 2013|df=}}</ref> According to ''The New York Times'', Full Sail has many of the same problems as other institutions in the for-profit college industry.<ref name="New York Times" /> They reported that some of the university's academic programs have high loan burdens and low graduation rates. The $81,000 video game art program graduated 38 percent of its students, who carried a median debt load of nearly $59,000 in federal and private loans in 2008.<ref name="New York Times" /> The ''Times'' cited other Full Sail degree programs as having higher graduation rates, noting that the master's in entertainment business, "a yearlong program with a $36,245 tuition, graduated 80 percent of its students, nearly 63 percent of them on time."<ref name="New York Times" /> According to Inside Higher Ed, "a closer look at the numbers reveals that graduation rates are not a major problem at Full Sail: the overall graduation rate is a fairly high 78 percent, according to federal data."<ref name="Inside Higher Ed">{{cite news|last=Fain|first=Paul|title=Full Sail in the Spotlight|url=http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2012/01/24/romney-right-about-full-sail-university|accessdate=December 20, 2016|newspaper=Inside Higher Ed|date=24 January 2012}}</ref><ref name=IPEDS2>{{cite web|title=Full Sail University|url=http://nces.ed.gov/ipeds/datacenter/Snapshotx.aspx?unitId=acaeafadaeb2|publisher=IPEDS Data Center|accessdate=16 February 2012}}</ref> In the same article, however, ''The New York Times'' noted that Full Sail's own students have posted criticisms of the school, including some that call Full Sail a "scam" because of its high costs, low placement, and difficulties with credit transfer.<ref name="New York Times"/> The college was named FAPSC School/College of the Year (an award for which only career colleges in Florida were eligible) by the Florida Association of Postsecondary Schools and Colleges (FAPSC) in 2008 and 2011,<ref>{{cite web|title=FAPSC Honors the Best Among Career Colleges in Florida During 2011|url=http://www.fapsc.org/displaycommon.cfm?an=1&subarticlenbr=178|accessdate=8 December 2011}}</ref> 21st-century best practices in distance learning by the United States Distance Learning Association (USDLA) in 2011,<ref name=USDLA>{{cite news|title=Full Sail University Receives Numerous Honors from USDLA|url=http://www.usnewsuniversitydirectory.com/articles/online-university-receives-numerous-honors-from-us_11465.aspx|accessdate=9 December 2011|newspaper=U.S. News|date=6 May 2011|deadurl=yes|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20110905050938/http://www.usnewsuniversitydirectory.com/articles/online-university-receives-numerous-honors-from-us_11465.aspx|archivedate=5 September 2011|df=}}</ref> and was the recipient of a 2011 [[New Media Consortium]] Center for Excellence award.<ref name="New Media Consortium">{{cite web|title=Center of Excellence Awards|url=http://www.nmc.org/about/center-excellence-awards|work=New Media Consortium|accessdate=10 December 2011}}</ref> In 2007, Full Sail University offered its first [[online degrees|online degree program]], a master's degree in Entertainment Business.<ref name="FirstGrad"/> Full Sail custom-built a [[learning management system]] for use with their online courses; the LMS is Macintosh-based, and utilizes content created by an in-house curriculum development team in conjunction with campus-based instructors.<ref name="FSBooming"/><ref name="ProOnline">{{cite web |publisher=Pro Sound News |title =Full Sail Launches New Online Degrees |url=http://www.prosoundnews.com/article/26486}}</ref> Although the university is not regionally accredited, it is [[Higher education accreditation in the United States#National accreditation compared to regional accreditation|nationally accredited]] by the [[Accrediting Commission of Career Schools and Colleges]] (ACCSC).<ref name="Inside Higher Ed"/><ref name=Accreditation>{{cite web|title=Full Sail University Accreditation Listing|url=http://www.accsc.org/DirectorySearchResults.aspx?SearchRequest=full%20sail&Locations=FL&Programs=&Credentials=&Categorys=|work=Accrediting Commission of Career Schools and Colleges|accessdate=8 December 2011}}</ref> The college has been subject to criticism regarding transferability of credits, as credits from nationally accredited schools often do not transfer to regionally accredited schools.<ref name="Time Magazine">{{cite news|last=Calhoun|first=Ada|title=The No-Name School That Mints Grammy Winners|url=http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2047078,00.html|accessdate=9 December 2011|newspaper=Time Magazine|date=11 February 2011}}</ref><ref name="Full Sail University and University of Florida">{{cite news|last=Crabbe|first=Nathan|title=UF and Full Sail partnering in production programs|url=http://www.gainesville.com/article/20111207/ARTICLES/111209699?p=all&tc=pgall|accessdate=12 December 2011|newspaper=The Gainesville Sun|date=7 December 2011}}</ref><ref name="tussle">[http://insidehighered.com/news/2007/02/26/transfer Tussling Over Transfer of Credit, ''[[Inside Higher Ed]]'', February 26, 2007 by Doug Lederman]</ref> Full Sail has a 55% overall graduation rate and a 21.1% [[student loan default]] rate,<ref>{{cite web|url=http://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=full+sail+university&s=all&id=134237 |title=College Navigator - Full Sail University |publisher=Nces.ed.gov |date=1986-06-29 |accessdate=2017-10-23}}</ref> higher than the national student loan default rate of 11.3%.<ref>{{cite web|last=Douglas |first=Danielle |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/09/28/student-loan-default-rate-dips-but-considerable-work-remains-education-secretary-says/ |title=Student loan default rate dips, but ‘considerable work remains,’ education secretary says |publisher=The Washington Post |date=2016-09-28 |accessdate=2017-10-23}}</ref> It is also listed on the Century Foundation's website as a university which includes restrictive clauses in the enrollment contracts, which are intended to minimize the legal recourse available to students in the event of disputes.<ref>https://tcf.org/content/report/how-college-enrollment-contracts-limit-students-rights/</ref> |
@ Darylgolden: Thanks for making these improvements to the article. I do remain concerned about current reference #39, which which directs readers to the "Use the Data" website for the National Center for Education Statistics' Integrated Postsecondary Education Data System. Please see my reasoning above for removing this inline citation. Do you mind taking another look? Inkian Jason ( talk) 15:30, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
For the "Notable people" section, I propose removing the entire first paragraph, all of which is inappropriately sourced: "Among the alumni of the school are Gary Rizzo, Oscar Award winner for Best Achievement in the Sound Mixing category for his work on the films Inception and Dunkirk; Sebastian Krys, eight-time Latin Grammy winner and four-time Grammy winner; three-time Grammy winner Phil Tan, and Darren Lynn Bousman. Notable graduates are recognized during an annual awards event named the Full Sail University Hall of Fame." Furthermore, this content seems to focus more on the specific accomplishments of individual people, such as the number of Grammy awards, etc. I do think adding mention of notable alumni is appropriately, but I'd argue the aforementioned content is unnecessary detail.
Since none of Leslie Brathwaite, Marc Fishman, or Martin "Tike" Santos are notable enough to qualify for Wikipedia articles of their own, I also propose removing the following content: "In June 2010, a second set of inductees was selected and added to the Hall of Fame including Leslie Brathwaite (mix engineer and Grammy award winner), Marc Fishman (sound re-recording mixer, Emmy winner), and Martin "Tike" Santos (live sound engineer, Paul McCartney)."
Finally, I propose removing mention of Michael Hicks, since the claim is currently inappropriately sourced. This would leave mention of only Machinedrum, so the remaining inline citation confirming his attendance should probably be moved to the end of the remaining text: "Machinedrum also attended." Actually, I propose changing "Machinedrum also attended" to "Machinedrum attended Full Sail", in order for the sentence to make sense in context.
Again, these changes can be made one-by-one, or if copying and pasting is easier, here is markup with the above suggestions implemented (I also moved the image to the top of the section):
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Dungeons & Dragons co-creator Dave Arneson taught at the school from 2000 [1] through 2008. Stedman Graham began teaching as an adjunct professor in 2009. [2] On April 20, 2009, Full Sail marked its 30th anniversary with the opening of the Full Sail University Hall of Fame. [3] Machinedrum attended Full Sail. [4] |
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[[File:FullSailHallOfFame.jpg|thumb|Full Sail University's Hall of Fame]] [[Dungeons & Dragons]] co-creator [[Dave Arneson]] taught at the school from 2000<ref name="Dave Arneson Retiring">{{cite news|last=Horowitz|first=Etan|title=D&D co-creator Dave Arneson retiring from Full Sail|url=http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/tech-blog/2008/06/dd-co-creator-d.html|accessdate=12 December 2011|newspaper=Orlando Sentinel|date=8 June 2008}}{{dead link|date=March 2018 |bot=InternetArchiveBot |fix-attempted=yes }}</ref> through 2008. [[Stedman Graham]] began teaching as an adjunct professor in 2009.<ref name="Stedman Graham">{{cite news|last=boedeker|first=hal|title=Stedman Graham to teach at Full Sail|url=http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/07/stedman-graham-to-teach-at-full-sail.html|accessdate=9 December 2011|newspaper=Orlando Sentinel|date=23 July 2009}}{{dead link|date=March 2018 |bot=InternetArchiveBot |fix-attempted=yes }}</ref> On April 20, 2009, Full Sail marked its 30th anniversary with the opening of the Full Sail University Hall of Fame.<ref name="Fame">{{cite web |publisher=Mix Online |title=Full Sail University to Unveil Hall of Fame |url=http://mixonline.com/news/headline/fullsail_university_hof_1702}}</ref> [[Machinedrum]] attended Full Sail.<ref>{{cite news|title=LET ME HEAR YOU 1, 2 STEP|url=http://www.interviewmagazine.com/music/machinedrum#_|accessdate=26 May 2015|work=[[Interview (magazine)|Interview]]}}</ref> |
I will be sharing an appropriately sourced list of notable alumni at a later date, but for now I think these should be pretty straightforward removals of poorly sourced material.
@ Altamel, ElKevbo, Grama24, Justlettersandnumbers, and VB00: I am pinging you all as recent talk page contributors, in case you're willing to take a look. The majority of this request, and the above one, is to remove unsourced content, so I'm hoping these edits offer a way forward that everyone finds amenable. Thanks for your consideration. Inkian Jason ( talk) 22:10, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
@ Darylgolden: Thanks again for reviewing this request. Your changes look good. I did have one question in the "Academics" section (see above), and now I'm hoping you will consider removing the tag at the top of the article that reads, "This article may contain improper references to self-published sources. (September 2017)" I don't believe the tag applies any longer. If there remain any reasons for keeping this tag, please let me know so I can address them accordingly. Thanks again. Inkian Jason ( talk) 15:28, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
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On behalf of Full Sail University, and as part of my work at Beutler Ink, I am here to propose improvements to this Wikipedia article. Any editors watching this page may be familiar with User:Tylergarner, who is a Full Sail employee, and the requests he has posted here in the past; I'll be taking over from Tyler as the institution's representative on Wikipedia for now. While Tyler is still with Full Sail and may make requests in future, he will not be active here while I am offering suggestions.
I will refrain from editing the article directly, and will suggest improvements on this talk page for volunteer editors to review and implement appropriately. I'd like to start by addressing some inappropriately sourced content, most of which is unsourced. To make reviewing easier, I've separated my requests by section:
In the infobox, I propose removing:
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I may propose other changes to the infobox later, but for now, I'm just focused on removing the inappropriately sourced information. Inkian Jason ( talk) 20:46, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
In the introduction/lead, I propose removing, "The school offers 50 degree programs and 2 graduate certificates." This claim is currently unsourced.
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Full Sail is nationally accredited by the Accrediting Commission of Career Schools and Colleges (ACCSC) to award associate degrees, bachelor's degrees, and master's degrees in audio, film, design, computer animation, business, and other fields. [1] [2] It has approximately 8900 undergraduate [3] and 170 postgrad students. [4] |
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Full Sail is [[national accreditation|nationally accredited]] by the [[Accrediting Commission of Career Schools and Colleges]] (ACCSC) to award [[associate degree]]s, [[bachelor's degree]]s, and [[master's degree]]s in [[Sound recording and reproduction|audio]], [[film]], [[Graphic design|design]], [[computer animation]], business, and other fields.<ref name="Inside Higher Ed"/><ref name="ACCSC">{{cite web |publisher=Accrediting Commission of Career Schools and Colleges |title=Directory – Full Sail University |url=http://www.accsc.org/DirectorySearchResults.aspx?SearchRequest=full%20sail&Locations=FL&Programs=&Credentials=&Categorys=}}</ref> It has approximately 8900 undergraduate{{r|peterson}} and 170 postgrad students.{{r|peterson2}} |
There is also an additional "citation needed" tag in the introduction, after "Full Sail relocated to Florida in 1980". This source confirms the 1980 date and can be added to resolve the "citation needed" tag. Here is markup for the inline citation:
Thanks for your consideration. Inkian Jason ( talk) 20:46, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
In the "History" section, I propose removing:
Again, these bullet points can be addressed one-by-one, or if removal of all these claims seems appropriate, here is markup for the "History" section with the unsourced and redundant content removed:
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Full Sail was founded by Jon Phelps in Dayton, Ohio, in 1979. [1] Operating under the name “Full Sail Recording Workshop” at that time, the school was established to train students on the production side of entertainment and music. [2] The curriculum was solely focused on recording arts at first, consisting of courses for students to learn how to become audio engineers. [3] The school relocated to Orlando, Florida, in 1980 and new courses were added to the core recording arts program. In 1989, Full Sail moved to its current location outside of Winter Park, Florida, in unincorporated Orange County; [3] the following year, it was accredited to grant specialized associate's degrees. [4] Full Sail began to receive notice within the audio industry for its programs, and for three years in a row, 1989–1991, the school won Mix magazine's TEC (Technical Excellence and Creativity) award for Best Recording School/Program. [5] Enrollment doubled between 1989 and 1991, at a time of increased interest in film and media studies. [6] Full Sail expanded accordingly by adding classrooms and equipment, and increasing the number of courses offered. This accelerated period of expansion was not without its challenges and the school encountered financial difficulties in 1992, which were subsequently resolved as it entered a period of more conservative growth. [7] Between 1995 and 1999, specialized associate degrees or associate degrees were added in computer animation, digital media, game design and development, and show production and touring. All of these degrees were later expanded into full bachelor's degree programs. [4] In 2005 Rolling Stone called Full Sail “one of the five best music programs in the country”. [8] The first bachelor's degree program, a Bachelor of Science degree in entertainment business, was made available at the school in 2005. [9] In 2007, the first master's degree program was offered—also in entertainment business. [10] Online degree programs began in 2007 as well—the first of which was an online adaptation of the existing Entertainment Business Master of Science. [10] The additions of the master's degree programs, among other factors, led to the school being recognized as a " university" by the state of Florida. Its name was officially changed from Full Sail Real World Education to Full Sail University in 2008, after attaining university status from the Florida Department of Education's Commission for Independent Education. [11] The campus expanded at this time with the addition of a 1,780-foot-long backlot with 18 city facades, designed to replicate the sets used in production of actual Hollywood films and television shows, which later expanded to 2,078 linear feet. [11] As the university grew in size and student body between 2006 and 2011, the curriculum and degree programs were broadened as well, [12] adding programs such as a bachelor of science in sports marketing and media [13] and a master of science degree in game design. [14] Full Sail drew national attention when 2012 presidential candidate Mitt Romney cited it as an example of the way rising costs of education can be solved. Romney did not mention that its chief executive, Bill Heavener, is a major campaign donor and fund-raiser. [15] Later that year, WWE began filming all episodes of its internet television show WWE NXT, which serves as the flagship show for WWE's developmental territory NXT, at Full Sail University. [16] |
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Full Sail was founded by Jon Phelps in [[Dayton, Ohio|Dayton]], [[Ohio]], in 1979.<ref name="Full Sail Ahead">{{cite news|last=Shanklin|first=Mary|title=Full steam ahead at Full Sail, one of Orlando's few viable real-estate engines|url=http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2010-08-01/business/os-cfb-cover-full-sail-080210-20100801_1_full-sail-university-jon-phelps-rolling-stone|accessdate=26 January 2012|newspaper=Orlando Sentinel|date=1 August 2010}}</ref> Operating under the name “Full Sail Recording Workshop” at that time, the school was established to train students on the production side of entertainment and music.<ref name="OBJ Full Sail Growth">{{cite news|last=Carstensen|first=Melinda|title=Full Sail to launch 10 new degree programs|url=http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/stories/2010/08/30/focus2.html?page=all|accessdate=26 January 2012|newspaper=Orlando Business Journal|date=30 August 2010}}</ref> The curriculum was solely focused on recording arts at first, consisting of courses for students to learn how to become [[Audio engineering|audio engineers]].<ref name="The Source">{{cite news|author=CombatJack |title=Why You Should Consider Full Sail University |url=http://www.thesource.com/articles/92456/Why-You-Should-Consider-Full-Sail-University/230/Features?thesource-prod=n2l4is8ojoortctsfvaceo47n0 |accessdate=26 January 2012 |newspaper=The Source |date=15 September 2011 |dead-url=yes |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20111023075810/http://www.thesource.com/articles/92456/Why-You-Should-Consider-Full-Sail-University/230/Features?thesource-prod=n2l4is8ojoortctsfvaceo47n0 |archive-date=2011-10-23 |df= }}</ref> The school relocated to [[Orlando, Florida|Orlando]], [[Florida]], in 1980 and new courses were added to the core recording arts program. In 1989, Full Sail moved to its current location outside of Winter Park, Florida, in unincorporated Orange County;<ref name="The Source" /> the following year, it was accredited to grant specialized [[associate degree|associate's degrees]].<ref name="Video Game Boot Camp">{{cite news|last=Krantz|first=Matt|title=Video game college is 'boot camp' for designers|url=https://www.usatoday.com/money/media/2002-12-03-video_x.htm|accessdate=31 January 2012|newspaper=USA Today|date=3 December 2002}}</ref> Full Sail began to receive notice within the audio industry for its programs, and for three years in a row, 1989–1991, the school won ''[[Mix (magazine)|Mix]]'' magazine's TEC (Technical Excellence and Creativity) award for Best Recording School/Program.<ref name="Mix">{{cite web |publisher=Mix Online |title=Former TEC Awards Winners |url=http://mixonline.com/TEC20/former-tec-winners}}</ref> Enrollment doubled between 1989 and 1991, at a time of increased interest in film and media studies.<ref name="Film School Daze">{{cite news|last=Welkos|first=Robert|title=Film School Daze|url=http://articles.latimes.com/2001/nov/18/entertainment/ca-5459/4|accessdate=26 January 2012|newspaper=Los Angeles Times|date=18 January 2001}}</ref> Full Sail expanded accordingly by adding classrooms and equipment, and increasing the number of courses offered. This accelerated period of expansion was not without its challenges and the school encountered financial difficulties in 1992, which were subsequently resolved as it entered a period of more conservative growth.<ref name="Full Sail Stormy Year">{{cite news|last=Strother|first=Susan|title=Full Sail Weathers Stormy Year|url=http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1992-03-09/business/9203071224_1_haddock-full-sail-steve-phelps|accessdate=31 January 2012|newspaper=Orlando Sentinel|date=9 March 1992}}</ref> Between 1995 and 1999, specialized associate degrees or associate degrees were added in computer animation, digital media, game design and development, and show production and touring. All of these degrees were later expanded into full [[bachelor's degree]] programs.<ref name="Video Game Boot Camp"/> In 2005 ''[[Rolling Stone]]'' called Full Sail “one of the five best music programs in the country”.<ref name="five best music programs">{{cite news|title='Rolling Stone' names Full Sail one of five best music programs|url=http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/stories/2005/08/01/daily5.html?jst=b_ln_hl|accessdate=31 January 2012|newspaper=Orlando Business Journal|date=1 August 2005}}</ref> The first bachelor's degree program, a Bachelor of Science degree in entertainment business, was made available at the school in 2005.<ref name="UF and Full Sail">{{cite news|last=Crabbe|first=Nathan|title=UF and Full Sail partnering in production programs|url=http://www.gainesville.com/article/20111207/ARTICLES/111209699?tc=ar|accessdate=31 January 2012|newspaper=The Gainesville Sun|date=7 December 2011}}</ref> In 2007, the first [[master's degree]] program was offered—also in entertainment business.<ref name="first masters degree">{{cite news|last=Beck|first=Tiffany|title=Full Sail offers first master's in entertainment business|url=http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/stories/2007/04/09/story15.html?page=all|accessdate=31 January 2012|newspaper=Orlando Business Journal|date=9 April 2007}}</ref> Online degree programs began in 2007 as well—the first of which was an online adaptation of the existing Entertainment Business Master of Science.<ref name="first masters degree" /> The additions of the master's degree programs, among other factors, led to the school being recognized as a "[[university]]" by the state of Florida. Its name was officially changed from Full Sail Real World Education to Full Sail University in 2008, after attaining university status from the [[Florida Department of Education]]'s Commission for Independent Education.<ref name="university status">{{cite news|last=Horowitz|first=Etan|title=Full Sail digital media school achieves university status|url=http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2008-03-25/business/fullsail25_1_full-sail-school-officials-media-design|accessdate=31 January 2012|newspaper=Orlando Sentinel|date=25 March 2008}}</ref> The campus expanded at this time with the addition of a 1,780-foot-long [[backlot]] with 18 city facades, designed to replicate the sets used in production of actual [[Hollywood]] films and television shows, which later expanded to 2,078 linear feet.<ref name="university status" /> As the university grew in size and student body between 2006 and 2011, the curriculum and degree programs were broadened as well,<ref name="OBJ 10 new programs">{{cite news|last=Carstensen|first=Melinda|title=Full Sail to launch 10 new degree programs|url=http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/stories/2010/08/30/focus2.html?page=all|accessdate=31 January 2012|newspaper=Orlando Business Journal|date=30 August 2010}}</ref> adding programs such as a bachelor of science in sports marketing and media<ref name="wide world of sports">{{cite news|title=Full Sail, Wide World of Sports ink deal|url=http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/news/2011/03/30/full-sail-espn-wide-world-of-sports.html|accessdate=31 January 2012|newspaper=Orlando Business Journal|date=30 March 2011}}</ref> and a master of science degree in game design.<ref name="OBJ Game Design">{{cite news|title=Full Sail University to offer new master's degree in game design|url=http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/stories/2008/09/08/daily26.html|accessdate=31 January 2012|newspaper=Orlando Business Journal|date=10 September 2008}}</ref> Full Sail drew national attention when 2012 presidential candidate Mitt Romney cited it as an example of the way rising costs of education can be solved. Romney did not mention that its chief executive, Bill Heavener, is a major campaign donor and fund-raiser.<ref name="New York Times">{{cite news|last=Lichtblau|first=Eric|title=Romney Offers Praise for a Donor’s Business|url=https://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/15/us/politics/mitt-romney-offers-praise-for-a-donors-business.html?_r=1|accessdate=16 February 2012|newspaper=The New York Times|date=14 January 2012}}</ref> Later that year, [[WWE]] began filming all episodes of its [[internet television]] show ''[[WWE NXT (TV series)|WWE NXT]]'', which serves as the flagship show for WWE's developmental territory [[NXT (WWE brand)|NXT]], at Full Sail University.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1180894-wwe-planning-major-changes-with-nxt-involving-fcw-stars|title=WWE Planning Major Changes with NXT|date=May 11, 2012|accessdate=May 14, 2012}}</ref> |
I'll pause for now, before suggesting similar content removals for the "Academics" and "Notable people" sections. I hope reviewing editors will find these pretty straightforward and uncontroversial, but do please let me know if you have any questions or concerns, here or on my user talk page. Thanks for any help in advance. Inkian Jason ( talk) 20:46, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
@ Darylgolden: Thank you for reviewing this request. I've reviewed your changes to the article, and I think the only concern I still have is the press release used to source the sentence: "In 2007, Full Sail University offered its first online degree program, a master's degree in Entertainment Business." (I am referring to current reference #43.) Additionally, this sentence is redundant to content in the "History" section. Does removing this sentence and source seem appropriate to you? If not, can you provide a reason for keeping? Thank you for taking another look. Inkian Jason ( talk) 15:25, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
Hello. I am back with an additional edit request, which I am submitting on behalf of Full Sail University. With unsourced content now removed, I'd like to propose some additional changes to the article, section by section, to make reviewing easier for volunteer editors. I'd like to start with the "History" section. I've reviewed the content and sourcing in detail, and identified some improvements for Wikipedia editors to consider. These include: fleshing out the university's early history a bit more, including mention of the school's previous official names, splitting the section into two subsections for better flow and organization, and adding some of Full Sail's more recent developments.
I've proposed an updated section below, and made the following changes:
Additionally, I made some minor wording and flow improvements to improve readability. It is somewhat difficult to show some of the minor changes made, but the following rendering shows the most significant changes in green text. I hope the color coding helps with side-by-side comparison, but I can create a diff showing specific changes if that'd be helpful. Finally, I should note, Full Sail has reviewed the proposed content to confirm accuracy to the best of their knowledge.
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Full Sail was founded by Jon Phelps in Dayton, Ohio, in 1979. [1] Phelps initially advertised the school by purchasing ad space in Rolling Stone. [2] The school was established to train students on the production side of entertainment and music, and first operated under the name Full Sail Recording Workshop, then Full Sail Productions. [3] [4] The curriculum was solely focused on recording arts at first, consisting of courses for students to learn how to become audio engineers. [1] The school relocated to Orlando, Florida in 1980. [3] Full Sail earned accreditation from the Accrediting Commission of Career Schools and Colleges, enabling the institution to present academic degrees and students to apply for student loans. Full Sail's focus on audio engineering courses expanded to include filmmaking, music production and engineering, video games, [5] and web design. [3] In 1989, the school moved to its current location in Winter Park, Florida. [6] Operating as the Full Sail Center for the Recording Arts, the institution began to receive notice within the audio industry for its programs, winning TEC Awards for "outstanding institutional achievement" in the "best recording school/program" category for three consecutive years between 1989 and 1991. [7] [8] Student enrollment doubled during this time. [7] The school added a digital media program in the early 1990s, [3] and expanded accordingly by adding classrooms and equipment, and increasing the number of courses offered. This accelerated period of expansion was not without its challenges and the school encountered financial difficulties in 1992, which were subsequently resolved as it entered a period of more conservative growth. [7] It was offering degrees in audio engineering as well as filmmaking and video production by 1992. [7] Garry Jones was named president in 1999, [9] and the school was operating as Full Sail Real World Education by the early 2000s. [10] In 2005, Rolling Stone said Full Sail offered "one of the five best music programs in the country". [11] The school's first bachelor's and master's degree programs were made available in 2005 and 2007, respectively, both in entertainment business. [12] [13] Online degree programs began in 2007 as well, the first of which was an adaptation of the existing entertainment business Master of Science. [13] The additions of the master's degree programs, and the school's faculty standards, led to Full Sail being granted university status by the state of Florida. Its name was officially changed from Full Sail Real World Education to Full Sail University in 2008, after being licensed by the Florida Department of Education's Commission for Independent Education. [14] The campus expanded at this time with the addition of a 1,780-foot-long backlot with 18 city facades, designed to replicate the sets used in production of actual Hollywood films and television shows. [14] As the university grew in size and student body between 2006 and 2011, the curriculum and degree programs were broadened as well, [15] adding programs such as a Bachelor of Science in sports marketing and media and a Master of Science degree in game design. [16] [17] In late 2011, the University of Florida and Full Sail announced plans to share program resources and make transferring between institutions easier for students. [12] Full Sail offered 37 degree programs and had approximately 15,200 students enrolled at the time. [12] Full Sail drew national attention when 2012 presidential candidate Mitt Romney cited the school as an example of the way rising costs of education can be solved. Romney did not mention that its chief executive, Bill Heavener, is a major campaign donor and fundraiser. [18] Later that year, WWE began filming all episodes of WWE NXT, which serves as the flagship show for WWE's developmental territory NXT, at Full Sail. [19] In June 2015, Full Sail began hosting the WWE Tough Enough series. [20] As part of an ongoing partnership between Full Sail and WWE, students receive opportunities to produce WWE NXT tapings, and merchandise and tickets sales contribute to a scholarship fund for students enrolled at the university. [21] [22] As of January 2018, the partnership between WWE and Full Sail had resulted in $385,000 in scholarships. [23] [24] Full Sail University’s Dan Patrick School of Sportscasting was established in 2017, with a new sportscasting degree program and instruction provided by sportscaster, radio personality, and actor Dan Patrick, among other industry leaders. [25] |
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==History== The school relocated to [[Orlando, Florida]] in 1980.<ref name=Garcia/> Full Sail earned accreditation from the [[Accrediting Commission of Career Schools and Colleges]], enabling the institution to present [[academic degree]]s and students to apply for [[Student loans in the United States|student loans]]. Full Sail's focus on audio engineering courses expanded to include [[filmmaking]], music production and engineering, [[video game]]s,<ref name="Video Game Boot Camp">{{cite news|last=Krantz|first=Matt|title=Video game college is 'boot camp' for designers|url=https://www.usatoday.com/money/media/2002-12-03-video_x.htm|accessdate=31 January 2012|work=[[USA Today]]|publisher=[[Gannett Company]]|issn=0734-7456|date=December 3, 2002}}</ref> and [[web design]].<ref name=Garcia/> ===Relocation to Winter Park and expansion=== In 2005, ''[[Rolling Stone]]'' said Full Sail offered "one of the five best music programs in the country".<ref name="five best music programs">{{cite journal|title='Rolling Stone' names Full Sail one of five best music programs|url=http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/stories/2005/08/01/daily5.html?jst=b_ln_hl|accessdate=April 5, 2018|work=Orlando Business Journal|date=August 1, 2005}}</ref> The school's first [[Bachelor's degree|bachelor's]] and [[master's degree]] programs were made available in 2005 and 2007, respectively, both in entertainment business.<ref name="UF and Full Sail">{{cite news|last=Crabbe|first=Nathan|title=UF and Full Sail partnering in production programs|url=http://www.gainesville.com/article/20111207/ARTICLES/111209699?tc=ar|accessdate=31 January 2012|newspaper=[[The Gainesville Sun]]|date=December 7, 2011|publisher=[[GateHouse Media]]|issn=0163-4925}}</ref><ref name="first masters degree">{{cite journal|last=Beck|first=Tiffany|title=Full Sail offers first master's in entertainment business|url=http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/stories/2007/04/09/story15.html?page=all|accessdate=April 5, 2018|work=Orlando Business Journal|date=April 9, 2007}}</ref> [[Online degree]] programs began in 2007 as well, the first of which was an adaptation of the existing entertainment business [[Master of Science]].<ref name="first masters degree" /> The additions of the master's degree programs, and the school's faculty standards, led to Full Sail being granted [[university]] status by the state of Florida. Its name was officially changed from Full Sail Real World Education to Full Sail University in 2008, after being licensed by the [[Florida Department of Education]]'s Commission for Independent Education.<ref name="university status">{{cite news|last=Horowitz|first=Etan|title=Full Sail digital media school achieves university status|url=http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2008-03-25/business/fullsail25_1_full-sail-school-officials-media-design|accessdate=April 5, 2018|newspaper=Orlando Sentinel|date=March 25, 2008}}</ref> The campus expanded at this time with the addition of a 1,780-foot-long [[backlot]] with 18 city facades, designed to replicate the sets used in production of actual [[Hollywood]] films and television shows.<ref name="university status" /> As the university grew in size and student body between 2006 and 2011, the curriculum and degree programs were broadened as well,<ref name="OBJ 10 new programs">{{cite news|last=Carstensen|first=Melinda|title=Full Sail to launch 10 new degree programs|url=http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/stories/2010/08/30/focus2.html?page=all|accessdate=January 31, 2012|newspaper=Orlando Business Journal|date=August 30, 2010}}</ref> adding programs such as a [[Bachelor of Science]] in [[sports marketing]] and media and a Master of Science degree in [[game design]].<ref name="wide world of sports">{{cite news|title=Full Sail, Wide World of Sports ink deal|url=http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/news/2011/03/30/full-sail-espn-wide-world-of-sports.html|accessdate=January 31, 2012|newspaper=Orlando Business Journal|date=March 30, 2011}}</ref><ref name="OBJ Game Design">{{cite news|title=Full Sail University to offer new master's degree in game design|url=http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/stories/2008/09/08/daily26.html|accessdate=January 31, 2012|newspaper=Orlando Business Journal|date=September 10, 2008}}</ref> In late 2011, the [[University of Florida]] and Full Sail announced plans to share program resources and make transferring between institutions easier for students.<ref name="UF and Full Sail"/> Full Sail offered 37 degree programs and had approximately 15,200 students enrolled at the time.<ref name="UF and Full Sail"/> Full Sail drew national attention when 2012 presidential candidate [[Mitt Romney]] cited the school as an example of the way rising costs of education can be solved. Romney did not mention that its chief executive, Bill Heavener, is a major campaign donor and fundraiser.<ref name="New York Times">{{cite news|last=Lichtblau|first=Eric|title=Romney Offers Praise for a Donor's Business|url=https://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/15/us/politics/mitt-romney-offers-praise-for-a-donors-business.html?_r=1|accessdate=February 16, 2012|newspaper=[[The New York Times]]|date=January 14, 2012}}</ref> Later that year, [[WWE]] began filming all episodes of ''[[WWE NXT]]'', which serves as the flagship show for WWE's developmental territory [[NXT (WWE brand)|NXT]], at Full Sail.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1180894-wwe-planning-major-changes-with-nxt-involving-fcw-stars|title=WWE Planning Major Changes with NXT|date=May 11, 2012|accessdate=May 14, 2012}}</ref> In June 2015, Full Sail began hosting the ''[[WWE Tough Enough]]'' series.<ref>{{cite news|last1=Boedeker|first1=Hal|title='WWE Tough Enough' calls Full Sail home|url=http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/tv/tv-guy/os-wwe-tough-enough-calls-full-sail-home-20150619-post.html|accessdate=May 17, 2017|work=Orlando Sentinel|date=June 19, 2015}}</ref> As part of an ongoing partnership between Full Sail and WWE, students receive opportunities to produce ''WWE NXT'' tapings, and merchandise and tickets sales contribute to a scholarship fund for students enrolled at the university.<ref>{{cite news|last1=Sullivan|first1=Erin|title=Full Sail partners with WWE|url=http://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2012/05/14/full-sail-partners-with-wwe|accessdate=May 17, 2017|work=Orlando Weekly|date=May 14, 2012}}</ref><ref>{{cite news|title=Full Sail student gets $10K from WWE|url=http://www.orangeobserver.com/photo-gallery/full-sail-student-gets-10k-wwe|accessdate=May 17, 2017|work=Orange Observer|date=October 3, 2012}}</ref> As of January 2018, the partnership between WWE and Full Sail had resulted in $385,000 in scholarships.<ref>{{cite news|last1=Reddick|first1=Jay|title=WWE surprises Full Sail student with $25,000 scholarship|url=http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/wrestling/os-wwe-full-sail-scholarship-20180117-story.html|accessdate=May 2, 2018|work=Orlando Sentinel|date=January 17, 2018}}</ref><ref>{{cite news|last1=Varsallone|first1=Jim|title=How WWE surprised scholarship winner in honor of Raw 25|url=http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/fighting/article195895024.html|accessdate=May 2, 2018|work=Miami Herald|date=January 21, 2018}}</ref> Full Sail University’s Dan Patrick School of Sportscasting was established in 2017, with a new sportscasting degree program and instruction provided by sportscaster, radio personality, and actor [[Dan Patrick]], among other industry leaders.<ref name="NYBJ">{{cite journal|title=Dan Patrick behind new sportscasting program at Full Sail University|journal=New York Business Journal|date=October 26, 2017|url=https://www.bizjournals.com/newyork/news/2017/10/26/dan-patrick-behind-new-sportscasting-program-at.html|accessdate=April 17, 2018|first=John|last=Ourand}}</ref> |
I don't edit articles directly because of my conflict of interest, and I'm seeking help from volunteer editors to review the proposed changes and implement markup appropriately. I don't think the additions are particularly controversial, and they are based on coverage in reliable secondary sources. I'm happy to address any questions or concerns here.
@ Darylgolden: I am "pinging" you since you replied to the 2 requests above, in case you're willing to help again.
The first 2 edit requests in this series have already improved the article greatly, so thanks for the help this far, and for the additional assistance moving forward. Inkian Jason ( talk) 20:44, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. Please see below. |
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. Please see below. |
Based on Justlettersandnumbers' comment above, I've reduced this edit request to only address the first part of the proposed "History" section. If reviewing editors are willing to take on the additional "Relocation to Winter Park and expansion" subsection, that would be great! Otherwise, I'm happy to submit another subsection with an additional edit request later. I've outlined proposed changes above, and again, I'm asking editors to focus on the additions shown in green text.
For this section, I propose adding mention of how the school's founder initially advertised, the former official names Full Sail Recording Workshop and Full Sail Productions, and a sentence about accreditation, all based on secondary coverage. Please see the below rendering and markup:
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Full Sail was founded by Jon Phelps in Dayton, Ohio, in 1979. [1] Phelps initially advertised the school by purchasing ad space in Rolling Stone. [2] The school was established to train students on the production side of entertainment and music, and first operated under the name Full Sail Recording Workshop, [3] then Full Sail Productions. [4] [5] The curriculum was solely focused on recording arts at first, consisting of courses for students to learn how to become audio engineers. [1] The school relocated to Orlando, Florida in 1980. [4] Full Sail earned accreditation from the Accrediting Commission of Career Schools and Colleges, enabling the institution to present academic degrees and students to apply for student loans. Full Sail's focus on audio engineering courses expanded to include filmmaking, music production and engineering, video games, [6] and web design. [4] |
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==History== The school relocated to [[Orlando, Florida]] in 1980.<ref name=Garcia/> Full Sail earned accreditation from the [[Accrediting Commission of Career Schools and Colleges]], enabling the institution to present [[academic degree]]s and students to apply for [[Student loans in the United States|student loans]]. Full Sail's focus on audio engineering courses expanded to include [[filmmaking]], music production and engineering, [[video game]]s,<ref name="Video Game Boot Camp">{{cite news|last=Krantz|first=Matt|title=Video game college is 'boot camp' for designers|url=https://www.usatoday.com/money/media/2002-12-03-video_x.htm|accessdate=31 January 2012|work=[[USA Today]]|publisher=[[Gannett Company]]|issn=0734-7456|date=December 3, 2002}}</ref> and [[web design]].<ref name=Garcia/> |
Is there a volunteer who is willing to review the proposed text and implement appropriately? Thanks for your consideration. Inkian Jason ( talk) 21:30, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
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Hello again! To hopefully make things easier for editors to review, I'd like to offer some smaller requests for individual changes. To start, I propose adding mention of one of Full Sail's former official names (Full Sail Center for the Recording Arts, per this source) and replacing existing bad sourcing.
I suggest changing: "Full Sail began to receive notice within the audio industry for its programs, and for three years in a row, 1989–1991, the school won Mix magazine's TEC (Technical Excellence and Creativity) award for Best Recording School/Program. [1]" to the following:
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Changed wording is shown in green. The first part of the suggested sentence presents the school's former official name, and the latter part of the sentence: 1) provides improved wording based on sourcing (the current inline citation directs readers to a bad URL, and is a primary source), and 2) links readers to the Wikipedia article about the TEC Awards. I don't edit the main space because of my COI, so if this improvement seems reasonable, is an editor willing to implement appropriately? Thanks in advance for any help. Inkian Jason ( talk) 20:58, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
@ KGirlTrucker81: Thanks for adding mention of the university's former name to the introduction. Are you able to fix the punctuation? @ Baffle gab1978: Pinging you as well, since you completed the copy edit. On the off chance either of you are interested, I've submitted a straightforward request below to update the "Notable people" section. Thanks for your consideration. Inkian Jason ( talk) 16:33, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
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Hello! I am submitting an edit request on behalf of Full Sail University. Currently, the introduction says:
I propose correcting the sentence's grammar by changing to the following, per a previous version of the article:
I do not edit the main space directly, so I'm seeking help from a volunteer contributor using the edit request template.
Thanks for your consideration. Inkian Jason ( talk) 18:29, 1 August 2018 (UTC)