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Is this true or is it someone's attempt at humor? If true, can anyone provide a reference? — Frecklefoot 13:04, 9 Sep 2003 (EDT)
Stancil Johnson, MD, wrote about having his ashes molded into frisbees in his book "Frisbee, a practioner's manual and definitive treatise." Dr. Johnson is still with us. Ed Headrick, the father of disc golf, did indeed have his ashes molded into discs.
Morrison is still living. http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,595063442,00.html
The ashes wernt "molded" into frisbees (making it sound as if you get a frisbee made of ash instead of plastic) but rather a small quantity of ashes were added to a large volume of clear plastic. In the final product, clear discs with Ed's picture and a short sentiment printed on them, you can see a few flecks here and there of Ed - TINY bits of ash. You can buy discs on Amazon.
There is a difference between the shape of a disc golf disc and a Frisbee, the disc has a pointed leading edge, and the Frisbee has a skirt.
quite interesting
revolutionary physics
Found this page via "It has been suggested that this article or section ["Disk Physics"] be merged into flying disc" from the "Disc Golf" page, which makes little sense (to me.)
I agree. The title "Disc Physics" is what is misleading. It could be changed to Golf Disc Physics. The truth is that what is described in that section is often a) unique, at very least in prevalence of the terminology, to disc golf, and b) highly relevent to the point of being not just integral to the play of the game, but ever-present in the thoughts of the players. A disc golf player always knows or strives to know what he did in his hand, arm, body to get the disc to fly in the specific flight path it took, and how to repeat it when needed. For discussion and instruction among players, terminology exists that describes specific flight characteristics. Understanding disc flight patterns is paramount to playing and improving. This all needs to be said in the "disc golf" article.
Could there be a tad more elaborating on the Wham-O's claim of "Frisbee" as a trademark? Have they been successful? If not, why?
Peter Isotalo 20:53, 9 July 2005 (UTC)
See Chapter VII the Frisbee Conspiracy The Complete Book of Frisbee the history of the sport & the first official price guide Victor A. Malafronte American Treads Publishing, Alameda, CA, 1998 ISBN: 0-9663855-2-7
Victor provides much history into trademark and use of the term 'frisbee'.
== Redirect ==
The Frisbee redirect does not allow the proper categorization of "Wham-O Brands".Is there not sufficient information about Frisbee proper to merit its own entry, with a link to the generic type? Cellmaker ( talk) 00:25, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
In certain games and movies there are frisbee or frisbee-like discs used as weapons. In Alien vs Predator movie the Predator has a metal disc that he throw on people and cut their heads off. In computer game 'Tribe', a weapon shoot disc to people.
Goldfinger
I think that the physics section on frisbee is to scietific for general know-how. It should be made more basic and easier to understand.
Physics is hard
I had entered a section with this bit of trivia, but someone pulled it out; it's not a joke entry, and I cannot figure out why people wouldn't want it to be part of the page.
John Dwork graduated from Hampshire College in 1984 with a Bachelor of Arts in Frisbee [1]. The full title of his degree was "Flying Disc Entertainment and Education."
I want it back in. Any support? MEJ119
See WP:TRIV. Creating trivia sections is a bad idea. If some fact is interesting enough to include, find/create some way to work it into main article prose. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ Contribs. 18:55, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
OPERATION D.I.S.C.
What about the history of a frisbee being from a pie pan? 71.250.23.130 18:41, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
TO CLARIFY THE MISUNDERSTANDING: Separate the name from the thing. The name "Frisbee" probably DID originate from a misspelling of the name of the Frisbie Pie Company. But, Wham-O coined and trademarked the name Frisbee almost 6 months AFTER they had bought the rights to the Pluto Platter from Fred Morrison. It was Fred who came up with the concept of producing a commercial flying disc after he tossed a popcorn can lid with his girlfriend (and later wife) in Los Angeles, CA. His 1946 sketch of the "Whirlo-Way" disc was molded in plastic in 1948 with the help of Warren Franscioni. This Pipco Flyin-Saucer was the very first plastic flying disc...and it arose without any help or knowledge of East Coast-based Frisbie's Pies. Thus, plastic flying discs (and the Frisbee® disc) didn't originate with pie tins...but the name Frisbee possibly did.
Missing essential information? The history section is confusing to me (I'm no expert on any of this). The article never introduces Fred Morrison, only Warren and Lucile Franscioni.
First reference is "Morrison told The Virginian-Pilot newspaper". Never says who he is, or even mentions his first name, except in references. No link to wiki page for Walter Frederick Morrison (had to find that on my own). Obvious to people who know the history maybe, but no help to those who don't. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bytefield ( talk • contribs) 01:12, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
Google is your friend, people. Yes, people were tossing around Frisbie pie tins after supper and 4th of July picnics long before the Frisbee disc was invented. For more, see this article referencing both the pie tins and the flying disc: "Children and college students from Bridgeport to New Haven’s Yale University would throw the metal pie tins created by William Russell Frisbie’s business as a game, and yell “Frisbie!” to warn of an incoming disc. Word spread, and California-based Wham-O, which sold hula hoops and a similarly-shaped plastic disc called a Pluto Platter in the 1950s, found out the game had become popular in the East Coast and began selling a Frisbee — changing the name slightly to avoid trademark issues."
Reference: https://www.ctpost.com/business/article/Frisbie-From-pie-to-flying-disc-and-back-again-10853581.php. Clepsydrae ( talk) 03:11, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
This article says Frisbie is a reference to a comic strip "Mr. Frisbie" and the pie company name is just a coincidence. This is also mentioned on the Wham-O site. Dfmayes ( talk) 03:42, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
Can we move the name of this article from Frisbee to Flying disc yet? Wham-O has been getting protective of their copyrights and no serious Ultimate or other disc aficionado calls flying discs "frisbees". -- Liface 16:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
This name change and move was rather questionable. There would be no grounds to sue Wikipedia. Whether the company likes it or not, Frisbee has become a generic name. Alyeska 18:36, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
I strongly suspect that the word "frisbee" is far more common in general conversation than "flying disk", though the non-trademark name would be more common in anything published. Given what I understand to be the spirit of Wikipedia's naming conventions, I think this article should be on the page that people would most likely go to when looking up the article, and that would be "frisbee". I would support a move back. -- Arctic Gnome ( talk • contribs) 23:22, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
How was this 'resolved' by the way? There seems to be a stronger argument for using the word 'frisbee' as the generic noun in everyday use. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.197.170.248 ( talk) 10:48, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
Just came here to ask what the actual fuck is going on with 'flying disc', considering not a single person I know has, or would ever, refer to a frisbee as a 'flying disc'. It appears that WHAM! are back from the 80's, and choosing sue instead of choosing life? I'm guessing the reason for this name change is because WHAM!(-O) are shitting bricks that everyone calls frisbees frisbees and are worried they'll lose their trademark. And whilst I'm sure some basement dwelling neckbeards can argue the ins and outs of Disctotators and Wafflecopter Discs not a single reference mentions 'FLYING DISC', they're all refering to them as 'discs'. So this is the first time those two words have come together, and to be truthful with you as an outside observer who knows SFA about frisbees (and doesn't really care to learn too much more!) you've lost all legitimacy with me because I now assume that this article is NPOV with some corporate muppet and sock puppet taint from Wham-O and / or basement dwelling frisbee aficianado and therefore questionable. Just a neutral outsiders opinion. I'd suggest trying to get a better consensus, most people here seem OPPOSED to flying dicks and prefer the term frisbee.
BaSH PR0MPT (
talk) 08:07, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
"Flying disc" is usually a UFO. It is used in place of "frisbee" in circumstances where there is a fear of lawsuits, such as in product or organization names. However, most players call the object a "disc", using "frisbee" more frequently when there might be situational ambiquity. I haven't heard "flying disc" in colloquial use in almost 30 years of playing mostly in southeastern USA. There seems to be a consensus to move this page back to "frisbee". Can we move the name of this article from Flying disc to Frisbee yet?
Ggpauly (
talk) 20:42, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
The article says the first pro model went on sale 1964; how was it different from the "amateur" version? Trekphiler 11:32, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
That new image at the top is pretty horrendous. Beach drifter ( talk) 19:46, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Is this verifiable, or is it subtle Hogan's Heros vandalism? Cheers, Dloh cierekim 13:46, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
I moved these statements from the main article's History section to here for discussion because they are claims of personal knowledge. Wikipedia does not allow personal claims (for example, "I know", "I was there") and instead requires citations to be to externally verifiable sources (newspapers articles, for example).
I hope that an editor can use the information above as an aid to track down external, verifiable sources. -- Zippy ( talk) 04:33, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
During a visit to the Smithonian Air and Space museum over 30 years ago I noticed an exhibit of a Frisbie metal pie tin. It was claimed that this was the original Frisbee! Chris Nichols —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chriscn95 ( talk • contribs) 11:54, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
This article needs more watchlisters, to revert additions of manufacturer and retailer external links (sometimes disguised as informational links), and additions of external links to specific-game organizations (disc golf, guts, freestyle, etc.), which belong in the articles on specific games, not this general main-topic article. Really, there should be very, very few external links on this page. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ Contribs. 18:57, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Can there be another discussion about the name of this article? Especially with the Frisbee explanation in the second paragraph, it gives the impression that Wikipedians have moved it in order to appease the Wham-O company (which I'm sure isn't the case). Regardless, the previous discussion was very brief before there was a move to Flying disc and there appeared to be more concern after the move which was never addressed; the main point being that the common name should be used, not one used by aficionados/enthusiasts or prefered by the company, and even a brief Google (though not overruling or definitive by Wikipedia standards) will suggest that Frisbee is the far more well-known term. 62.56.87.114 ( talk) 03:03, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
No one says "flying disc". Normally one says "disc". More frequently the pronoun "it" is used, as in "throw it deep". Rarely other terms are used, such as "bee". For clarity, for example in a situation with little context, one says "frisbee" (not capitalized to note the genericized meaning), or in other uses "golf disc", etc..
It's not that the words "flying disc" are never used. If I were writing an encyclopedic article on frisbees, I would define them as plastic flying discs. "Flying disc" is a product category and manufacturing label. The term is not, in my experience, adopted by the end users of the product. Usage of the term is common, and can be googled all day long. It is not used by people to refer to the product in actual life.
This is provable. Google the phrase "I saw a flying disc". ... Apparently, when used in the mouths of actual humans, this article should be about flying saucers and alien abductees.
I suggest following actual English usage, in all its muddy ambiguity, and title this article "frisbee". The titles "(flying) disc" or "(plastic flying) disc" revert to the misusage we're trying to fix. And no doubt there are carbon fiber discs out there now. Ggpauly ( talk) 13:56, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
I have invented/patented a Glow in the dark flying disc -- Flite by Nite (TM) that requires Glowsticks. It can be verified at http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7582003.PN.&OS=PN/7582003&RS=PN/7582003.
Can the verbiage be updated on your website to include Glowsticks? It will be available to market in January 2014.
There are also illuminated discs meant for nighttime play; they are made of a phosphorescent plastic or contain battery-powered light-emitting diodes. Others whistle when they reach a certain velocity in flight.
Chgo Angel ( talk) 16:14, 13 November 2013 (UTC)Angel
A new article has recently been published on Wired.com called The Design Genius of the Frisbee. The article was written by Jonathan Keats on February 4th, 2015. In the Wired article, the inventor of the Frisbee is named Walter Morrison, where here in your article it is Fred Morrison. Are these two guys the same person? It might be best to check your sources to find out which one is the correct name to use. Here you can find the link to the Wired article: http://www.wired.com/2015/02/wham-o-frisbee/. Cheers, Comatmebro ~Come at me~ 17:50, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
His birth name was Walter Fredrick (not Frederick) Morrison. All his life he went by either Walter or Fred. To the flying disc community he is best know as Fred. See his book: Flat Flip Flies Straight–True Origins of the Frisbee for more. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
72.221.117.11 (
talk) 01:34, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
How has Wham-O been able to successfully protect a trademark that they openly stole from a pie company, ironically because it had become the genericized term for the discs that they had previously been calling "Pluto Platters" ? I mean, the information refuting that trademark is right here in this article. And to think the NIMH movie actually changed a proper name, something which shouldn't be affected in the first place, because of that illegal aggressive legal shenanigan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.206.153 ( talk) 03:32, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was move to frisbee.— Neil P. Quinn ( talk) 21:46, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
There has a been string of comments on the Talk page discussing the nonsense of the current page name for the frisbee, given that frisbee, while originally a brand name, continues to be the universally accepted generic word for thrown toy discs. (The article was originally called Frisbee, but changed in an apparent attempt to help influence real world adoption of the term 'flying disc'. That hasn't happened, but in any case, Wikipedia articles should not be edited in an attempt to influence external circumstances. Consequently I propose RENAME. Engleham ( talk) 11:55, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
I'm closing the RfC and renaming due to (a) frisbee, while originally a brand name, continues to be the universally accepted generic word for thrown toy discs. And (b) articles should not be edited in an attempt to influence external circumstances. The article was originally called Frisbee, but changed in an apparent attempt to help influence real world adoption of the term 'flying disc'. Engleham ( talk) 19:47, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
@ Engleham: I agree, a move to frisbee is long overdue. Is there any particular reason you haven't actually done it? If not, I can.— Neil P. Quinn ( talk) 06:47, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
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Although it sounds like a joke, on December 12, 2017, President Trump signed into law a rule that requires registration with the FAA when flying discs weighing .55 pounds or more outdoors. The rule applies to toy helicopters, boomerangs, frisbees, model airplanes or any other device that flys through the air using aerodynamic lift. The rule was implemented as part of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2018. I've added a well-sourced paragraph about it to the article. Sparkie82 ( t• c) 21:00, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
No mention? 47.201.28.138 ( talk) 14:52, 1 July 2023 (UTC)