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How is this different from an inverted roller coaster? Disko 03:14, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Each car on a flying coaster can pivot, so that the rider's back is against the track, traveling headfirst. Each rider faces away from the track, so there are no obstructions to any rider of any car. dj_ansi 10:21, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
"This type of design is not considered to be a true flying coaster by many enthusiasts, but rather a variation on a standard steel design as the passengers do not start the circuit in the flying position and spend large amounts of time on top of the track rather than suspended underneath it. As a result many people credit B&M with the first flying coaster, Air."
This is simply not true, I don't know anyone who thinks that the Vekoma "Flying Dutchman" models are not true flying coasters. The cars face backwards, and recline until the passengers are flat on their backs before leaving the station. They also are pulled up the chain lift with the track underneath. I suppose that this is the longest part of the coaster, but once the train crests the lift hill, the majority of the ride has the track on top. In fact every drop is done in the prone position.
The cars are equipped with a large and soft vest-like seatbelt which attaches to the rear, and there is a large padded lapbar with another set of pads below to hold your lower legs in. This is what you are suddenly dumped into as the car flips over at immediately following the lift, while making a slow turn to give you a second to deal with the shock. This is a shock not experienced on any of the other flying coasters that go into the prone position in the loading station.
Yes, I'll admit that I like the B&M ones more, but they came afterwards. They were able to ride Stealth and discover that the drops(dives) were probably the most exhilirating part, prompting them to design most of their flying coaster drops into tunnels! Vekoma took the real risk of dealing with a prototype coaster design.
dj_ansi Dj ansi
--- It CAN be argued that a Vekoma coaster is not a full flying coaster due to the fact that Vekoma's model flips riders from the full flying position (face down) to the non flying position (face up) throughout the duration of the ride. It is for this reason that one can argue the Vekoma Flying Dutchman is a variation of the flying roller coaster whereas the B&M and Zamperla Volare versions are more of a standard flying coaster.
The page was changed again, this time someone is stating that a flying coaster is only a flying coaster if it keeps you in 'full flying position' throughout the entire ride, something I personally have never heard. If it were true, what would Vekoma's "Flying Dutchmans" (Borg Assimilator, X-Flight, Batwing) be classified as? Don't use the terms they invented for 'Rollercoaster Tycoon' (such as Lie-Down coaster) as they couldn't use the actual companies names to describe the track styles (like Steel Twister Coaster instead of B&M.) For this reason I am taking this biased statement out.
dj_ansi (5:34a 5/22/06)
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Don't the B&M cars rotate backwards, rather than forwards? Air certainly operates so that you are seated, and the car pivots backwards from the top, leaving you facing down towards the floor.
--Correct, B&M's pull the car backwards and then lock them into the full flying position
Medusa at Six Flags Discovery Kingdom is a flying coaster. 76.126.15.78 ( talk) 19:45, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- Medusa is listed by its manufacturer, Bolliger & Mabillard, as a "floorless coaster," as are its many siblings around the country, notably the version at Six Flags Great Adventure. In the summer of 2009, when SeaWorld Orlando opens Manta, the park will have both a floorless coaster and a flying coaster. -- McDoobAU93 ( talk) 20:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
I've been trying to revise the article, and I may have made an error. Vekoma's flyers depart the station lowered to the track or at the 45-degree angle for loading? I rode X-Flight several years ago and honestly can't remember, while No Limits shows it as lowering as it starts up the lift. While NL strives for accuracy, I just can't remember if this is correct or not. Would someone please look at it and fix it, if it's wrong? Thanks. -- McDoobAU93 ( talk) 17:07, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
That's wrong, they are lowered and raised in the station only. I remember hearing that after the prototype coaster, the next ones would have dual loading stations, plus raise and lower on the lift to speed up loading time. They only did the dual loading, but perhaps No Limits came out before the next coasters were built. I'll fix the article. dj_ansi ( talk) 20:35, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
I've removed the infobox as it seemed to be for a specific roller coaster. (I couldn't just comment it out because there were already comments there so it wouldn't work.) — George8211 / T 19:49, 7 February 2015 (UTC)