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Why is there absolutely no mention of the young women whom Ted Bundy murdered in the late 70s in a campus sorority house? It's probably one of the most notable events concerning FSU in the 20th century, and its omission seems intentional. Jaydenwithay ( talk) 01:29, 19 September 2022 (UTC) reply

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I oppose listing the Ted Bundy events in Tallahassee on the FSU Wikipedia pages because they are not connected with the university and did not occur on university property. Bundy attacked female students of the university off of university property. As a parallel, does the Harvard University Wikipedia article list the murder of a Harvard student in Cambridge, MA? (the answer is no). Here's an example: https://abcnews.go.com/US/investigators-announce-significant-break-decades-cold-case-murder/story?id=59314962 While Bundy's notorious activities connected five female FSU students to Bundy, such information does not belong on the FSU Wikipedia page. Such detail belongs on Bundy's or Tallahassee's Wikipedia page.

Similarly, we've had discussions between editors regarding the FSU pages on Wikipedia who want to list criminal acts which occurred on university property. There's no consistency between this illegal activity and that one, but we choose the one which aligns with our political outlook. Again, the motivation is to make a political statement, not document the meaningful history of a 171-year-old university. Sirberus ( talk) 19:09, 29 September 2022 (UTC) reply

Every instance of the claim of 1851 as the founding year needs a link to 'Note 1,' not just the sidebar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.252.156.11 ( talk) 19:55, 19 February 2023 (UTC) reply

Why do you think this necessary? The founding date is over documented on the FSU page mainly due to prior vandalism and constant challenges from University of Florida students and alumni. I've followed this issue for decades and it is frankly a nothingburger to everyone else.

FSU follows a nationally conventional method of setting the founding date. It has history of using 1851 long before the current University of Florida arrived in Gainesville. FSU's claim to 1851 is well documented in the school's early history. In my view the present Note 1 adds little or nothing to the history of FSU. It should be removed. Sirberus ( talk) 13:21, 20 February 2023 (UTC) reply

For reference is the seal of the Florida State College.

Sirberus ( talk) 18:13, 18 March 2023 (UTC) reply

(I moved this over from the wrong talk page) -- Melchior2006 ( talk) 08:23, 11 December 2023 (UTC) Thank you for your kind attention to the FSU article. I wrote much of it years ago and helped push it through GA review. I don't edit much these days, but I do look at the article from time to time. reply

Regarding the deletion of the statement about the oldest higher education location in Florida you wrote was too trivial, I urge you to reconsider. The issue of oldest public university in Florida is and has been a political hot spot between FSU and UF. It may be a trivial topic outside of Florida, but has weight in Florida politics. While I could have reverted the changes, you are a serious editor and I urge your further consideration of this deletion once you know more of the history.

Cheers! Sirberus ( talk) 03:29, 10 December 2023 (UTC) reply

Hi Sirberus, thank you for your friendly point. I would be happy to have you re-insert the point about the "oldest ground" of education. In the international context, it is indeed very minor (consider Tibetan schools and their centuries-old tradition!), but please include some reference and mention that it is a point of contention, otherwise the statement looks like really bad boosterism. If you want to continue this conversation (ok by me), then please do so on the FSU talk page, so others can chime in. -- Melchior2006 ( talk) 04:55, 10 December 2023 (UTC) reply

I added back the statement and a cite. Agreed the point is generally nonsense, especially in the context of the Old World. Whoever said politics was rational (especially in the rah-rah university domain)? The truth is nuanced and complex, and splits along which university dating convention one wishes to follow. Both follow that which they think advances their position. Cheers! Sirberus ( talk) 00:45, 11 December 2023 (UTC) reply

@ Sirberus The cite isn't good enough. It is just pointing back to FSU, not sufficiently NPOV, especially because this is a "fighting" point in polemics among FL universities. -- Melchior2006 ( talk) 08:23, 11 December 2023 (UTC) reply

Perhaps we need to devote some additional resources to this area. You'll note the nonsense associated with the 1851 date - but only on the FSU article. Newspaper reports commonly unearthed are written by UF grads advancing their POV (UF has a journalism school). I'll work on it - your help is appreciated. Sirberus ( talk) 12:33, 11 December 2023 (UTC) reply

After reviewing the article, I note there is already a statement in the lede about the oldest location with two good references. One reference is to the 1902 Florida State College yearbook (The Argo), plainly stating the year of origination (1851), claiming "the oldest State College in Florida" status, and stating (correctly) that the school has operated continuously since November 1856. The second is a St. Petersburg Times story covering the various date changes over the years and salient details of the rivalry. Between the two, I think this addresses the matter. I am fine with leaving out the sentence you deleted since it merely repeats the claim. Reference 3 adds even more clarity to the UF claims. Does this work for you? Sirberus ( talk) 18:42, 11 December 2023 (UTC) reply

Sounds good to me. Thanks for looking into this. -- Melchior2006 ( talk) 19:42, 11 December 2023 (UTC) reply

One last thing on this - I reread Reference #3 and found it addressed the matter so clearly I placed it as another inline citation to the statement we've been discussing. Sirberus ( talk) 20:47, 11 December 2023 (UTC) reply

How has this not happened yet? 2605:59C8:61E0:2910:2827:F044:70BB:E030 ( talk) 14:11, 21 January 2024 (UTC) reply