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To-do list for Electric car:  ·  history ·  watch ·  refresh · Updated 2016-10-08 There are no active tasks for this page Prototype electric cars should be moved here from List of production battery electric vehicles. They should go under the Prototype subheading - it's for electric cars currently under development. Facts707 ( talk) 13:16, 8 May 2009 (UTC) Stub all the redlinks.  Done SimonTrew ( talk) 00:57, 4 May 2009 (UTC) stubbed a couple, removed a couple in references (URLs still work, no need to expect publication to be a wiki article) Edit the history so that it doesn't read as if it is the history of electric cars in America.  Done (Still America biased, but quality of the content is much improved) More hard data on initial costs in comparison section. Get missing costs and numbers produced into the "Selected production vehicles" table. ( SimonTrew ( talk) 02:13, 11 July 2009 (UTC) This has moved to article Currently available electric cars.) FAC reviewer wants more sources sections without any refs: Outside the US (has ext. links); Acceleration performance  Done (1 ref); Replacing; Safety; Hobbyists, conversions, and racing (has ext. links)  Done (3 refs); List of recent prototypes (has ext. links)  Done (6 different refs); Controversy; and both arguments. consider converting anchored external links to refs;  Done wikilinks probably have good refs in them, too someone else suggested at least one per paragraph! That would be about 80. ( SimonTrew ( talk) 00:03, 4 May 2009 (UTC) There are currently 102, though it is not 1 per para) Put it through peer review again, asking in particular for copyediting help. Add MPG calculated by the DoE/EPA to the site somewhere: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/byfuel/byfueltypeNF.shtml ( SimonTrew ( talk) 01:03, 4 May 2009 (UTC) This only runs EV up to 2003 so I think inappropriate to add. [1] add data and graph similar to page 7 in http://www.evworld.com/library/Tesla_21centuryEV.pdf to display next to sections Electric_car#Performance and Energy efficiency. Requires lots of digging, though. Purpose: show that characteristics are fundamentally different. TGCP ( talk) 11:05, 12 September 2015 (UTC) combine range and price in one diagram like this ( source). TGCP ( talk) 09:47, 8 October 2016 (UTC) ^ Gas Mileage of New and Used Vehicles by Fuel Type, United States Department of Energy, 2008, retrieved 2009-05-04

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The Tesla Model Y is the 4th best selling vehicle in the world. https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1619012569393676288   Should it be highlighted in intro and intro pics?   Daniel.Cardenas ( talk) 03:25, 29 January 2023 (UTC) reply

Sorry, but that tweet carries almost no weight. He doesn't show where his facts came from and even within its comments it was challenged. Just some random dude (with Tesla Shares) giving an unsupported "fact". Also not clear if his figures include Model 3 and Y together or not or whether he is counting only western cars or includes Chinese cars (eg from BYD).  Stepho   talk  04:40, 29 January 2023 (UTC) reply

We had a debate on the lead image(s) a few years back with me being the stick in the mud. I'm used to it, so here goes. As per WP:CARPIX, the lead image doesn't have to be the latest, or the most popular, etc. Nut it does have to be representative. Most people know what an electric car looks like, so the only question is how to show the electric half of the title. Showing cars that happen to be electric but look just like any other car on the road is pointless - that's just showing "cars". Hence my fight to have images of a car charging, or a close up of the batteries, or a close up of an electric motor. Adding an image of just another car (regardless of what is under the skin) is not representative.

Adding it in the text is a possibility (with a much better reference) but this is the type of thing that changes on a yearly basis, so it becomes a constant maintenance chore. And does it really mean much?  Stepho   talk  04:40, 29 January 2023 (UTC) reply

The tweet references this as a source: https://www.focus2move.com/world-car-market/   Daniel.Cardenas ( talk) 05:47, 29 January 2023 (UTC) reply

Hmm, looks like I missed that reference. And it does address many of my points (BYD is mentioned). However, I still don't see a Model Y image as adding much value to the article. However, I am also not against replacing one of the other "car" images - as long as the charging image stays.  Stepho   talk  07:03, 29 January 2023 (UTC) reply

Just a heads-up that as part of an editathon I'm leading on June 17, new editors might be making some edits to this article. I'll be following up shortly afterwards to check for copyright compliance and other quality issues and will clean up stuff if needed. Cheers, Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 23:14, 12 June 2023 (UTC) reply

Hi guys. I know this is a difficult question and it took a long time to reach consensus to select the current 5 pictures in the lead. However, the January discussion above and the updating of the top selling models that I just finished make me wonder that the lead should have at least one Chinese manufactured EV (one among the top selling ones, meaning a BYD or the GAC Aion). In addition, the Jaguar I-Pace is a very nice-looking car but only has sold 60,000 units. My specific proposal is the following:

• I propose to change the Jaguar I-Pace picture in the lead for one top selling EV from a Chinese manufacturer, and put to consideration the following options:

Select one pic for use in the lead image instead of the Jaguar I-Pace EV400

BYD Yuan Plus in front of charger #1

BYD Yuan Plus in front of charger #2

GAC Aion S #3

Any of these options can be trimmed or retouched of course. Please express your opinion below, or even propose other candidates accompany by the rationale of your proposal (for example, the BYD Tang is selling well and illustrates a full size electric SUV).-- Mariordo ( talk) 00:45, 10 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Select one pic for use in the lead image instead of the Jaguar I-Pace EV400

BYD Tang charging #4

BYD Tang charging #5

Any of the BYD pics look fine to me. The GAC is a generally fine pic but looks like any other car on the road - ie the image doesn't show the electric nature of the car.  Stepho   talk  11:00, 10 August 2023 (UTC) reply

It has been more than a week and participation in the discussion has been limited. So, I will go ahead and substitute the Jaguar I-Pace for the BYD Tang. Image #4 is the one that fits better with the other images. Feel free to reopen this discussion at any time, but please, do not change the lead images without seeking consensus here.-- Mariordo ( talk) 23:33, 21 August 2023 (UTC) reply

All good :)  Stepho   talk  13:57, 22 August 2023 (UTC) reply

What do you look for when picking which pictures to use?-- HereForAnth ( talk) 21:43, 12 September 2023 (UTC) reply

The image must be able to show that this is an article about electric cars, not just an article about ordinary cars. A picture of an electric car (eg a Tesla or a Nissan Leaf) might seem like it does this but to most people it looks like an ordinary car and therefore does not emphasis the electric part. Looking for images showing cars with electric motors, electric batteries, charging plugs/sockets, at charging stations, etc. If we have a group of images then some of them can be of the more popular electric cars, as long as there are other images in the group that also specifically show the electric nature.  Stepho   talk  22:19, 12 September 2023 (UTC) reply

FWIW, I second the choice of the BYD Tang (#4).  Mr.choppers |  ✎  03:19, 13 September 2023 (UTC) reply

I removed '* In 1882, Werner von Siemens presented the world's first trolleybus in Berlin' but should it be included? Darrelljon ( talk) 10:01, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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