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@ Rxnd: The plagiarism introduced by Tom.bair on 2 March 2013, wherein this editor appropriated the words, verbatim, of Craig Epplin, from his review in The New Inquiry—see their addition to the "Critical reception" section, here [1]—has been corrected. For the current status, which places the entirety of cut-and-paste cribbed text into a quote, see the same section in this version (current as of this date, [2]). Le Prof Leprof 7272 ( talk) 22:26, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
My work today began after finding a paragraph plagiarised, see preceding note. In reading the entire article carefully, it contains section after section, paragraph after paragraph of unsourced text. These sections and sentences are marked out by tags, which should remain until all material that violates WP:VERIFY is checked, and removed if incosistent with the sources.
As well, I found a reliance on the self-published biographical materials of this prolific writer, which again, is contrary to WP policy, esp. in BLP articles. Regardles of how trustworthy her own accounts are of her own life and experiences, we are not to present them as encyclopedic writing. Hence the WP guidelines regarinding independence of sources.
As well, in checking sources—initially, only to ensure links were not dead—I found time and again that the contributing editors were editorializing, though this is forbidden by Wikipedia. (We are called to reflect the published opinions of experts, and not to state our own.) Compare for instance the sentences associated with the Index Magazine source. Myles Irish grandmother (who the magazine mentions) is, however, not named, nor is the duration of her stay in hospital stated. These are historical facts, and are as good as fabricated, if they are unsourced. (They are certainly not in the only source appearing in the paragraph.) It is WP:Original Research, which is another pattern of this article that is prohibited in this encyclopedia.
In short, the near entirety of the article is based on self-published or no source at all, and so stands in bold defiance to WP policies and guidelines. If you remove tags without fixing problems you support the deception of our readers, that this content, unflagged, is all right as is.
Le Prof Leprof 7272 ( talk) 02:24, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
I'm not sure if the details about hearing Larry River's eulogy for Frank O'Hara are really relevant in Myles' "Early life and education," especially since none of it is supported with citations. Any objections to deleting them?
"At St. Mark's she also first heard the story of Larry Rivers's eulogy for poet Frank O'Hara,[citation needed] which presents a disturbing and detailed account of O'Hara's deathbed scene.[citation needed] Myles has stated[where?] that she saw this as a gesture of true artistry, in that Rivers sacrificed taste and risked the discomfort of others in order to honor O'Hara's monumental presence, even while dying.[citation needed]"
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I went ahead and deleted the Frank O'Hara details after I failed to find a source supporting it.
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I read the Eileen Myles section in Maggie Nelson's Book 'Women, the New York School, and Other Abstractions'. I researched the impact and analysis of her work and publications on the LGBTQIA community in New York City and beyond. The problems with this entry are lack of citations, personal analysis and research, and conversational not news-like summary or tone. Horse.dot.horse ( talk) 17:38, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
Should we change the pronouns in the article to singular "they"? I'm seeing sources that assert that both Myles and Soloway both prefer that usage, see [3] for an example. humblefool ® 19:06, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
→I've done this for Soloway already, I'll get on it soon. Jl sg ( talk) 17:58, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
In the Author's Note at the end of Myles' memoir AFTERGLOW (published 2017), Myles is referred to as They. So that must be Myles' preferred usage, Younggoldchip ( talk) 12:39, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
More sources have begun using they pronouns for Eileen Myles. Can we update this page to reflect their gender identity? 6:38 17 October 2017 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdxallaire ( talk • contribs) 22:39, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
I think the article is OK now with "they" used throughout, but that usage should be announced somewhere – best already in the introduction, but maybe in parentheses. Does anyone have a good source we can use as a reference?
Here’s one online article that makes it very clear: Noted (NZ)
Update: I’ve just found an acceptable way to explain the "they", I think: I inserted a reference at the first use of "they", containing the above-mentioned web link. Geke ( talk) 06:36, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
at a recent reading, Myles stated she has Irish citizenship, but there is no easily found reference for this online. 162.51.225.223 ( talk) 20:12, 12 October 2017 (UTC)