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I think the gambling section needs to be better explained, especially the gambling terminology used. Why does the bookie need to pay out $200 no matter what happens? I don't get it. --
Zeno of Elea 04:22, 23 July 2005 (UTC)reply
If Horse 1 wins, the bookmaker returns 100 of stake, plus 100 (evens) so 200. If Horse 2 wins the payout is 50 of stake plus 150 (3/1), and so on. --
Henrygb 00:58, 25 May 2006 (UTC)reply
etimological background
I would be happy to see some etimological background too. As I know the "dutch whatever" structure
is used in english to say that something is of low quality, while this is definitely not true to dutch book. One really nice game (in the general sense, not economic) with this double meaning of "dutch" is in one of
Matthew Rabin's articles; something like "several professors wrote dutch chapters, but none of them has a dutch book".
I tried to reflect the clarification given by Henrygb in the table, since I also had no gambling background and had to take a little time to figure out what was being said. Hopefully this is correct (there was also an error in one of the stakes, I believe - see changes)
83.103.77.181 (
talk) 11:23, 5 January 2008 (UTC)reply
Apropos of that, I thought a Dutch Book was one that the bookie screwed up so that he loses money. In other words, a low quality book. I ran across the expression in a book about Saratoga Springs. NY, in its heyday, when a bookie was driven out of business because he didn't understand what he was doing. (Edit) In other words, the example in the article in which Horse 4 withdraws from the race. Fabulous bawd : the story of Saratoga / by Mel Heimer.
72.182.33.219 (
talk) 01:12, 18 August 2014 (UTC) Ericreply
This article is low interest, it seems, but as I suggest above, it is totally wrong and has the definition backwards. A Dutch Book is one in which the probabilities add up to less than 1 and the bookie loses money to someone who bets on every horse. A properly figured "Book" needs no adjective, the track or the bookie always wins if bettors bet randomly or on every horse.
72.182.33.219 (
talk) 22:04, 12 December 2014 (UTC) Ericreply
I reiterate the above and point out that in the article
"Dutching" wikipedia says: "This is not to be confused with what constitutes a Dutch book which is when a bookmaker goes overbroke (the opposite to overround)." The concept of "overround" is explained well (although from an obviously British POV) in the article
Mathematics of bookmaking. Overround is what a bookmaker wants: he makes money. The Dutch book is the opposite.
173.174.85.204 (
talk) 20:56, 28 December 2015 (UTC)Ericreply
I see that the article has been corrected.
Wastrel Way (
talk) Eric
Economist
As far as I studied economics I encounter only the economists who argued that transitive preferences are not present. Shouldn't the section pointed out who, if anyone, states such consumer exists?
Uzytkownik (
talk) 21:35, 21 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Where does the name come from
This information should be included in the article and cited appropriately.
128.195.57.188 (
talk) 22:21, 20 July 2010 (UTC)reply
Disambiguation
The article could do a better job of separating:
* The concept of a Dutch Book
* The Dutch Book Argument of anthropic probability — Preceding
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86.180.183.140 (
talk) 08:53, 30 January 2016 (UTC)reply
Merge with Coherence (philosophical gambling strategy)
Clearly needed. Merged article should talk about how Dutch books imply:
VNM axioms of independent and acyclic preferences, together with asymptotic completeness
Probability axioms (Bayes rule, unitarity, countable additivity)
The material can be taken from Leonard Savage's books on the foundations of decision theory and probability.
Closed Limelike Curves (
talk) 18:39, 4 March 2024 (UTC)reply