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Perhaps this should just redirect to Delta Air Lines?
These airlines are NOT DELTA and the way airline codes are being used there is a considerable amount of dishonesty as is discussed in detail here :
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/3866796/
By the way consumer advocacy is not what I am shooting for ..... I am shooting for honesty, clarity, and transperancy which is lost with all the outsourcing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.215.26.146 ( talk) 16:36, 4 March 2008 (UTC-8)
Is that not what an encycopedia does? 63.215.26.146 ( talk) 01:07, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Sorry but you are extremely very mistaken Hawaiian for the record. What a shame for you do have good insight on some things. 63.215.26.146 ( talk) 02:23, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
I wonder if you cannot agree that many of these flight are nothing but outsourced Delta Flying in many instances as well? Or maybe outsourced is a dirty little secret in the airline industry? 63.215.26.146 ( talk) 02:27, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Airline A is bought out by a holding company. Holding company buys Airline B, Airline C. enticing the employees by pleading for pay and patience concessions with a merger where seniority goes up, peoples vacation gets better, peoples days off people get to fly different airplanes get better etc.
An here is the clincher.... The Airline Operating Certificates are NOT merged as they were in the early history of airline industry mergers which maybe you are not familiar with. Example AMR - AA, MQ, OW.
Then the holding corporation thereatens to sale off various segments of the business such as MQ or OW after people had been enticed to transfer positions as the outsourced company restaffed and took over the existing flights and airport operations.
ALL the while passengers, civic leaders, laymen are thinking they are aboard and flying AMERICAN IATA code AA......when in actuality they are not even flying an AMERICAN based AMR company meaning not MQ or OW - but AX or RW instead.
Many young people and individuals use this site to research potential positions and to gain insight about jobs within the industry. It is best if they do not waste there time with a corporation which is manipulating there futures....and had they been able to see this instead of staying years with AX or RW, they might have learned it was best to go with AA or WN for example or even the AMR corporation direct.
Jargon is tantamout to the airline industry, and your continued mystification of coding does not contribute to demystifing and clarifying a very complicated airline industry issue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.215.26.148 ( talk) 13:50, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
As mentioned before ICAO codes have nothing to do with the concept of IATA
codeshares so ICAO and call signs are completely irrelevant.
The reason US and HP presumably are being used and operated seperately at this point is so US Air Group can spinoff one portion of the operation, at the detriment of it's employees. Union busting in other words.
In case you are not aware it is a long process for a new airline to gain certification and an operating certificate so when one airline is sold to another the IATA code share for codesharing, and call signs go with it until the integration. Which has been the course of airline merger history until recently. Think of Independence and Compass Airlines certificate at Northwest Airline Corporation.
US Airways Group is manipulating operatons right now and the employess of it are aware of it and fighting for a complete intergraton so they do not get messed over. I do not work for US Airways or any of it's subsidiaries but I do value truth.
It is impossible to talk realistically and truthfully about these outsourcing of employees labor at the main airlines and how the creative branding and none intergraton of airline operating certificates by big business is underming the structure and safety of an entire industry ... which is something my friend Hawaiian 717 you are partaking in in your own small way by attempting to distort truth.
Aviation is about efficient communication in the interest of saftey and you are not contributing to the overall goal of that.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.215.26.148 ( talk) 19:28, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Do read more aviation articles regarding the industry, US Airways Group, and business, as there is nothing here published here that has not been discussed in journals or the "libelous" or slanted, or biased news media, which people like myself and yourself are trying to keep at least somewhat, transparent by having accurate information in Wikipedia. 63.215.26.164 ( talk) 15:25, 7 March 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.215.26.164 ( talk) 15:22, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Why did someone just automatically move the NW Airlink article into this one? While I understand Northwest and Delta merged, but the article should still be there for someone histroically looking for the info and also this was not discussed. I propose the pages be separated until a concensus is reached. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.228.119.197 ( talk) 06:59, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
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Can someone tell me what the number of aircraft in in parentheses in the orders column means. 2601:640:C002:9300:F05D:E703:9FDD:5C24 ( talk) 00:47, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
What on earth is subfleet? What is the source? Why do we need it in the table? Please explain, or remove it. Mirza Ahmed ( talk) 22:27, 26 January 2020 (UTC)