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Every time someone is trying to say that Ded Moroz in not traditional to other Slavic countries, Russians change it back with remarks like "read the history first!". Can you please explain me your point of view? Why do you think that you are the only ones right, and all others are wrong? Why do you think you know our history better then we do? I did not mention anything about Russian oppression, occupation or imperialism. I just wrote the facts. And the facts are that at least in my country, Belarus, there was no Ded Moroz until Soviet times. There is nothing political about that. The whole point of Wikipedia is to allow people share facts they know. Nobody has the right to privatise the topic just because he feels a certain way about it. Juras14 05:11, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Is it absolutly necessary to have Polish attitudes in every article related to anything which has to do with Russian/East Slav culture ? What is the point having little known political details about events long forgotten by most people in the article about something like Ded Moroz ? To 99 % of people even in Poland is just a unique Russian children fictional folklore character, only to may be 1-2% of Poles it a symbol of Soviet opression (which nobody denies here, but in which Ded Moroz play only a very minor role)? If this would've have been a Chinese or Indian fictional tale character I seriously doubt any part of the article about them would be dedicated to their role in the "opression of national culture" of let's say Tibet or Kashmir. I don't see relevance of this section in the article aside from of course a known crusade of some people on Wikipedia with a goal to add some "Polish imput" to many Russia-related articles. Fisenko 04:05, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
"To 99 % of people even in Poland is just a unique Russian children fictional folklore characte" Most people born before 89 were subject to this Russification campaign.I personally was also subject to this.Unless you can provide sources that such campaign wasn't put into motion I see no reason for deletion.After all it affected whole country of 38 milion people. Your objection seems to come from purely emotional and personal reasons. -- Molobo 14:01, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
Yor claims are clearly exaggerated and you know it. You are not the only one who is personally familiar with the realities of communist Poland. Fisenko 18:08, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
Ded Moroz is not a folklore character, it is not from a tale. It's Ok and normal to say that Ded Moroz replaced St Nicholas in countries of Soviet block because religion was banned. Ded Moroz is known and popular because he is there instead of St Nick and this fact worth explaining. 17:26, 22 December 2005 (CET)
Ded Moroz is a folklore character and claiming otherwise can only be ascribed to lack of knowledge. As far as Polish sentiment goes, it clearly has its place. However, this is not it. This is an article about a specific character - Ded Moroz, which is a Russian character in nature. Polish character has a different name, and though it may be derived from Ded Moroz, so is part of a composite figure of modern Santa Claus. Each deserves a separate article and this is what I propose to do. There could be, potentially, a disambiguation article that leads to Russian, Polish, Bulgarian etc similar figures from their english translation as "grandfather frost". Polish grievances in this article appear to me to constitute what can be described as an emotional response.
Polish character has a different name, and though it may be derived from Ded Moroz, so is part of a composite figure of modern Santa Claus There is no Polish character, Ded Moroz never existed in Poland, it was simply introduced(without any success) during Soviet occupation of Poland from Russia. Thus there is no "Polish version" just the Russian one that was used in one of attempts of Soviet Propaganda that boasted of such things as "slavic" ties etc. -- Molobo 21:03, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
Although the stamp image is nice, it's not a legitimate use of a copyrighted stamp image. Googling for Ded Moroz images gives me 937 images, many of which look "Soviet PD", one of those would be a good substitute. Stan 14:13, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
Three separate articles for three pronunciations of the same character's name in closely related languages, seems excessive. It's not a matter of resources per se, but of focusing improvements on (and preventing disimprovements in) one article. Please merge Dziadek Mróz and Dzied Maroz with this article. -- Trovatore 21:14, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Ded Moroz wears a blue coat, AFAIK. At least he did last time I saw him... -- Illythr 23:20, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Soviet Russian Kamrad ( talk) 07:26, 27 December 2009 (UTC)His coat is RED! I guarantee ya. Snegurochka wears Blue coat.
No section on Russia? Suprising.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 12:18, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Soviet Russian Kamrad ( talk) 08:29, 27 December 2009 (UTC)In modern Russia Ded Moroz is a brand of Veliky Ustyug.
The "GLONASS Tracks Ded Moroz Project" section is suffering from the same problems that bedeviled the NORAD Tracks Santa article for months. It is largely written in an "in universe" style, describing a fictional character as real and saying that technology is really used to track him. It requires clean-up. Simon Peter Hughes ( talk) 16:24, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
In some contexts in russian language the word "grandfather" can be used to any old man (with familiarity). So Grandfather Frost means Gaffer Frost, not Father. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iceman by ( talk • contribs) 03:25, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Why no mention of Ukraine in this article? I have been told by Ukrainians about Ded Moroz. I am no expert on the subject but Ukraine is conspicuous by its absence. Firebuild ( talk) 22:15, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
Why? What a silly question. Because the Russians think the Ukraine IS Russia. That's why. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.138.90.39 ( talk) 07:12, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
This term in Russian "Ded Moroz" and in Slavic languages "Djed Mraz" is synonymous to English term "Santa Claus". Therefore, I will suggest its' merge to Santa Claus. -- Munja ( talk) 13:36, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
LOL. It's a direct rip-off of Santa Claus. He just doesn't have reindeer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.138.90.39 ( talk) 07:10, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
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Hello, I have noticed this edit changes facts while citation remains the same (and does not match the - now changed - text). I might be wrong though, can someone review this: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Ded_Moroz&type=revision&diff=736739564&oldid=728224047 As far as I recall "celebration of Christmas" was never actually forbidden in ex-YU, just frowned-upon (and the edit claims that it was forbidden). -- Neikius ( talk) 12:34, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
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The article claims that "Some people also say, that Ded Moroz is Santa Claus's grandfather." Is there any basis for this? Tbibenji ( talk) 01:33, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
There is a request for a ref as to the link made between Snegurochka and Anastasia/diminutives of Anastasia. I tried to find a suitable reference. Not only could I not find a suitable reference from a reliable source, I couldn’t find any reference at all. From searching the net, google books etc it appears that not only are there no sources backing this statement up, but all mentions online linking the two are articles written relying on Wikipedia for the information. (The phrasing is exactly as in our article). Since we seem to be spreading misinformation through this section of this article, and since the point seems to be rather tangential to the focus of the article - do we really need alternate names and diminutives for a figure who is a companion of the figure the article is actually about? - I’m going to remove that small section. If someone has a reliable source for this half a sentence I am removing then please do reinsert it and provide the source. Dakinijones ( talk) 15:39, 2 February 2021 (UTC)