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This artical needs pictures. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.41.169.244 ( talk • contribs)
way too much emphasis upon modern curtain walls! Anlace 21:22, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Before I start editing, Ahering@cogeco.ca, could you try rewriting your recent edits? The tone employed ("are essential", "areas must have") is more instructive than informative. I do like the LAPD citation. I also worry that you're taking a very limited, first-world perspective in your sweeping statements of requirements ("glazing panels are often required" "The curtain wall itself, however, is not ordinarily required to have a rating"). Please include just WHERE these requirements exist - I doubt very much that the majority of countries across the globe have such stringent requirements, and can't know just where you're talking about without further information. Alvis 05:51, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Curtain walls are, historically and almost by definition, modern and first-world. The bit about "medieval" curtain walls is interesting, but perhaps it's confusing to people coming to this from outside of architecture and structural engineering. It sounds like there's a stylistic choice to be made (you've got your medieval hand-crafted curtain walls and your filthy modernist first-world curtain walls). I came across this article by chance, and I think it's excellent--you just need to underline that the modern and medieval terms are entirely different concepts.-- 84.48.122.132 19:17, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- What about traditional Chinese architecture? This article is linked from the Dougong article, which describes traditional Chinese architecture as using non load-bearing curtain walls. If that is correct, then perhaps the History section of this article should mention that. If not, then the Dougong article should be corrected. 168.244.164.254 ( talk) 15:59, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
The external link entitled "Curtain walls in 20th-century architecture" no longer links to its intended destination, the site has been moved. 137.92.97.111 ( talk) 00:05, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
- The link should be removed as the article is about "glass" curtain walls, which is totally removed from an outer defensive curtain wall. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.65.105.39 ( talk) 14:31, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
The world's first glass curtain walled buildings were in Liverpool. Oriel Chambers being the first. These have been added.
Just to note. The glass curtain wall came about because of industrial building innovations in metal frames in England in the late 1770s and early 1800s. In 1858, Greene's Boat House, Sheerness, Kent, England was the first building with a true rigid metal frame, with no load bearing masonry. This building was a four storey, three bay frame 64 metres by 41 metres by 16 metres high. This wiki explains it well: http://www.liverpoolwiki.org/Home_of_the_Skyscraper
The section on fire safety made the following statements about the First Interstate Tower fire:
In the case of the aforementioned fire, it was specifically the activation of the newly installed sprinkler system, which halted the advance of the fire and allowed effective suppression. Had this not occurred, the tower would have collapsed onto fire crews and into an adjacent building, while on fire. Exceptionally sound cementitious spray fireproofing also helped to delay and ultimately to avoid the possible collapse of the building, due to having the structural steel skeleton of the building reach the critical temperature, as the post-mortem fire investigation report indicated. This fire proved the positive collective effect of both active fire protection (sprinklers) and passive fire protection (fireproofing).
This conflicts with the United States Fire Administration report [1] (which states that the sprinklers were never turned on and the structural integrity was never in danger), so in the absence of a citation I moved them to the talk page. The comment about passive protection of the steel skeleton is supported by the report, but perhaps not directly related to curtain walls.
- ^ "Technical Report, Interstate Bank Building Fire". United States Fire Administration. Archived from the original on 2010-07-13. Retrieved 21 November 2009.
Something approaching half the links to the original curtain wall article were from castles and fortification, which was clearly wrong, so I have turned that into a dab page. We should now be able to unravel the links in slower time with the help of the dab notification system. Hope that helps. -- Bermicourt ( talk) 17:25, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
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