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Wiki Education assignment: Fire Semester 3

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 28 August 2023 and 11 December 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Hippie2012 ( article contribs). Peer reviewers: Worm Insurrection, Lolwhatdidtheysay, Fireiscrazycool, Potato Fanatic.

— Assignment last updated by Worm Insurrection ( talk) 21:16, 24 November 2023 (UTC) reply

August 1, 1968

So, how is this date chosen as the end point? For the start point there's a Supreme Court decision, which seems to me perhaps kind of late, since someone had to be making the court case happen, but at least it's a definite datable event. However some quick Google searches have failed to show me anything special about August 1, 1968. So, how come? Jim.henderson ( talk) 02:31, 29 December 2023 (UTC) reply

The last paragraph on the first section is weird. Wrong facts.

Hi! I just want to give some attention to the last paragraph on the first section on this page. It's talking about the black power movement, and it says:

"The emergence of the Black Power movement, which lasted from 1965 to 1975, challenged Black leaders of the movement for its cooperative attitude and its adherence to legalism and nonviolence. Its leaders demanded not only legal equality, but also economic self-sufficiency for the community. Support for the Black Power movement came from African Americans who had seen little material improvement since the civil rights movement's peak in the mid-1960s, and still faced discrimination in jobs, housing, education and politics. Martin Luther King Jr. was the most visible leader of the movement. However, some scholars note that the movement was too diverse to be credited to any particular person, organization, or strategy."

This entire paragraph is talking about the black power movement, which makes it weird why Martin Luther King is mentioned there and makes it look like he was the most visible leader for the black power movement instead of the civil rights movement, which is of course wrong. And right after mentioning him as a leader it says "However, some scholars note that the movement was too diverse to be credited to any particular person, organization, or strategy.", and the link is a article about the black power movement, so I think it's just a honest mistake about the person writing it thinking he really was a leader for that movement, and that it's not just weirdly written. Can someone please change this? At least to organize it in a way so it doesn't seem like he was leader for the wrong movement, so there's no misunderstandings when reading it. But you can keep the rest of the text there. Thanks!

(Also if this is now changed it just means that someone changed it already) <3 Thank you! MeManBlaze ( talk) 21:12, 8 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Yup. As you mention, it appears it was part of a good faith and much needed attempt to trim the lead down to a more manageable size. This particular edit added far, far too much confusion, so I have restored the prior wording and moved it to its own paragraph. Grayfell ( talk) 21:51, 8 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Cheers! MeManBlaze ( talk) 02:48, 9 January 2024 (UTC) reply
It's much easier to read now, thanks! I just got to ask (just to be sure) is the source cited with "However, some scholars note that the movement was too diverse to be credited to any particular person, organization, or strategy." really talking about the civil rights movement? I believe it's talking about the black power movement. Look at the source. Maybew we could move up that sentence to the other paragraph as well?
I'm not really sure though since I didn't read too much of the article linked with the source. But the title makes it seem like it (but it could be there, I don't know), and I've only skim-read it a little bit, and that's why I'm asking :p I just want to be sure. I'm not really experienced with editing at wikipedia, so I'd rather ask than make a wrong edit when it's about an important subject like this. And once again, thanks for the help with the edit! I appreciate it. MeManBlaze ( talk) 03:16, 9 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Is the article too domestic focused?

Hi! I can't currently edit the page, as my account is new and I haven't made any edits elsewhere, but I have some suggestions on some improvements. When reading the page, I got the impression that it presents Civil Rights almost entirely as a domestic issue, when a lot of modern scholarship doesn't see it that way (eg Dudziak, Gaines). There are a few ways I think this should be addressed. Firstly, I think the lead section should at least mention how the Cold War/foreign relations impacted the movement, seeing as international opposition to segregation was an important reason why the movement succeeded (figures eg Eisenhower only acted as they did due to external pressure). Similarly, the 'Background' section is completely domestic focused. It doesn't mention appeals to the United Nations (eg An Appeal to the World), or how American Civil rights campaigners were influenced by campaigns against racial discrimination elsewhere. Another part missing its international context is the section on Little Rock, which doesn't mention any reasons why Eisenhower made the decision (partly to enforce the law, partly to demonstrate progress to international observers). I definitely think the 'Avoiding the Communist label' section needs changing, as this only reflects part of the movement and not figures eg Mayfield, Robeson, Du Bois etc. Finally, I think the 'Truman administration' section leaves out the more complicated reality of his relationship with Civil Rights, including but not exclusively his administration voting against UN declaration against racial discrimination. So while obviously this page is about the movement for legal change in the United States, I think it is currently missing a lot of the context and limiting it purely to events within the US is not helpful. Alexmolinario ( talk) 22:01, 9 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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