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The article states:
"Until its modern spread along with European culture, cheese was nearly unheard of in oriental cultures, uninvented in the pre-Columbian Americas, and of only limited use in sub-mediterranean Africa, mainly being widespread and popular only in Europe and areas influenced strongly by its cultures."
Perhaps some mention should be made of paneer, the ubiquitous Indian fresh cheese, which does not owe its existence to European culture, but rather is apparently of Persian origin.
BenStrauss ( talk) 21:58, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
The Latin "caseus" may have a common origin with Kishk or Kashk (كشك), Arabic and/or Persian for various types of fermented and dried dairy foods. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.14.69.60 ( talk) 16:26, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
This doesn't need a citation needed tag; it's common business sense. Any producer close to its supply is going to have fresher supplies. The price of the supply may or may not be lower, but the shipping costs will be. ndyguy ( talk) 00:52, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
It is generally believed that Rome spread a uniform set of cheesemaking techniques throughout much of Europe, and introduced cheesemaking to areas without a previous history of it. It was practically right for tough conservative cheese but very few for wide varieties of soft and white cheese.
As Rome declined and long-distance trade with the oriental and meridional coasts collapsed, cheese in Europe diversified further and various countries, even germanic or finnish ones far in the north, taking a part of this antique mediterranean heritage develop their own distinctive cheesemaking traditions and products. Some historians of Touraine suggest that shapes of the cheese was formely chosen to please the old divinities, who received these gifts. These intercessions were always rediscovered and rapidly transformed by religious mainstream, especialy stoïcian then christian during and after the second roman Empire.
The British Cheese Board claims that Britain has approximately 700 distinct local cheeses;[6] France and Italy have perhaps 600 each with much a large diversity of texture and form. A French proverb holds there is a different French cheese for every day of the year, and Charles de Gaulle once asked humorously "how can you govern a country in which there are 246 kinds of cheese?"[7].
The advancement of the cheese art in Europe was indeed slow during the centuries after Rome's fall, but monastorie's cellars performed to store a lot of cheese innovating in surface's treatement and finding new flavours. Even, starting from the choosen feed for the cows, the basic process of making and especially molding under press or with special instruments were modified. Many of the cheeses we know best today were first recorded in the late Middle Ages or after— cheeses like Cheddar around 1500 CE, Parmesan in 1597, Gouda in 1697, and Camembert in 1791.[8]
In 1546, John Heywood wrote in Proverbes that "the moon is made of a greene cheese." (Greene may refer here not to the color, as many now think, but to being new or unaged.)[9] Variations on this sentiment were long repeated. Although some people assumed that this was a serious belief in the era before space exploration, it is more likely that Heywood was indulging in nonsense.
....... Yeah Heywood was good at that!....... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.110.155.158 ( talk) 23:43, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
A respective proposal under your attention -- Harvey Stillnot ( talk) 21:09, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
cheese rules —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.196.79.119 ( talk) 15:35, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Swiss starter cultures also include Propionibacter shermani, which produces carbon dioxide gas bubbles during aging, giving Swiss cheese or Emmental its holes.
Maybe someone can verify this. —Preceding
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84.152.140.116 (
talk) 19:30, 4 March 2009 (UTC) it can be yellow or yellow and orange or orange.
The impact of production of cheese on the environment should be included in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.13.125.118 ( talk) 20:33, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
some people said that
monosodium glutamate occurs naturally in protein containing foods such as cheese & meat. should it be listed in this article?
andry (
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I would request this page be semiprotected due to excessive vandalism. a little insignificant 15:50, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Fermentation is the conversion of sugar to alcohol or the growth of microbes in tanks. Cheese is not fermented. The edit of 7 Nov 21:22 is false and also poorly worded - cheese is a "generic term" that's called a word. Suggest full reversion to the previous intro - can someone w/ account do this pls? 74.7.121.69 ( talk) 03:45, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Although today's addition and removal of large content should have been mentioned here by the involved editors, I do support the removal. That material is irrelevant to the subject, as well as unsourced. Mjpresson ( talk) 20:25, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Goat milk cheese —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.67.219.1 ( talk) 08:52, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
The photo showing a (presumably Dutch) market with wheels of cheese stacked on the pavement has a questionable caption - As I recall the yellow wax coating is for a young cheese. Once it is aged and it has a red wax coating. Mccainre ( talk) 02:28, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
Cheese has animal renent (cut up stomachs of the sacred hindu cow) for enzymes and meat extracts. THIS IS CONSIDERED A MEAT PRODUCT. IT SHOULD NOT BE LABELED VEGETARIAN. IF YOU ARE A VEGETARIAN WHO EATS CHEESE YOU ARE NOT A VEGETARIAN YOU ARE A MEAT EATER AND BEING LIED TOO. Cheese is no longer kosher. This article should be removed from the dairy section. thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.255.42.105 ( talk) 22:12, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
Some brief reading on cheesemaking led me to believe ripening is distinctly different from aging. I hope someone can ensure there is no confusion of the two terms. I believe ripening is an accelerated bacterial action allowed to occur before storage, and that storage (usually at a somewhat lower temperature, with a rind) is where "aging" occurs. However I would like an expert to verify. Mydogtrouble ( talk) 22:53, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
What does "sharp" in "sharp cheese" mean? 204.210.242.157 ( talk) 19:01, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Under production:curd processing: the link to cheddaring links to the page for cheddaring, which now redirects to manufacture of cheddar cheese. this should be fixed to point towards - Manufacture_of_Cheddar_cheese#Cheddaring — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.80.58.202 ( talk) 04:13, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
A nutrition table similar to other foods is needed.Yes I agree.
For some reason, the cheese page is semi-protected? Whatever. Could somebody move the line "Additional ingredients may be added to some cheeses, such as black peppers, garlic, chives or cranberries" to follow "The yellow to red color of many cheeses, such as Red Leicester, is formed from adding annatto" in order to create a more logical flow? 184.7.112.136 ( talk) 02:03, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
I just wanted to suggest writing something about rBST Free on the cheese page. I think that readers would find the information interesting, even if it is controversial. ( GlassLadyBug ( talk) 20:42, 3 August 2012 (UTC))
Top cheese consumers - 2008 (kilograms per person per year)
This table is inconsistent with its source: http://www.dairyinfo.gc.ca/index_e.php?s1=dff-fcil&s2=world-monde&s3=consglo&page=tc-ft
there are countries missing, and even the first country in the list (Greece) has the wrong value. I am going to fix the table, to reflect its indicated source.-- 98.14.86.159 ( talk) 23:03, 8 January 2011 (UTC)-- Aeural ( talk) 23:04, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
the third table should have sorted content instead of being sortable. I was trying to do it but table markup is a lot to learn for such a small thing. i think that making the table sortable was probably a stopgap by someone else and that is appreciated but it would be best if the three tables were formatted the same way with and in descending order.
Aformalevent ( talk) 06:30, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
The article states, without reference, "Nevertheless, people with severe lactose intolerance should avoid eating dairy cheese." This is a misconception. Aged cheeses have trace amounts of lactose, and some have none, and can be well tolerated by lactose intolerant persons. I propose that the sentence should read: "Most lactose intolerant persons can tolerate aged cheeses, since these cheeses have only trace amounts of lactose." The amount of lactose in any cheese is easily found in the USDA National Nutrient Database for Standard Reference. The carbohydrate amount listed is the amount of lactose, since that is the only type of sugar in milk, and therefore, in cheese. One ounce of brie, for example, has 0.13 grams of lactose, which is nearly zero.
This is the link for the analysis of brie from the USDA Nutrient Database: [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dogsx5 ( talk • contribs) 17:11, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
the article that mentions world cheese consumption for 2009 no longer exists so,i think that we should put back the 2008 statistics (or 2006 was before? i don't remember) (until we find another source). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krem12 ( talk • contribs) 18:47, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
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Can someone please specify the different type of cheeses? For example, Blue Cheese (Rosenborg, ect), Havarti (Dofino, Maytag, ect). Thanks!
74.130.32.78 (
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This article claims that Turkic tribes were possibly responsible for being the first to make cheese, but this is severely anachronistic. The Turkic peoples were only coming about as a collection of tribes in the first several centuries B.C. Cheese, of course, is much older than that (especially if one considers how later in the article it is said cheese is depicted by the Egyptians in 2000 B.C.)
It is possible that Asiatic nomadic tribes were the first, but this is different than "Turkic" and should be changed or removed.
96.56.4.26 ( talk) 17:17, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
I think the phrase 'ur dick smells like cheese' should be removed. I cannot do this, and user Fyrael has deleted my previous request. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ModusPwnd ( talk • contribs) 18:30, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
The phrase "ur dick smells like cheese" is still there as of 6-2-2011. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.37.67.133 ( talk) 23:49, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
This section is really weak and probably violates NPOV. If you're going to bring up lactose intolerance it would be fair to at least bring up both tofu and stinky tofu. Stinky tofu fills the same culinary niche as cheese in Taiwan. Not all Asians eschew dairy, however. Get it right. (Besides, what cheese article would be complete without linking to Japanese chiizu?) 98.180.8.57 ( talk) 05:11, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Why, what, where, and how does this article need additional citations for verification? Hyacinth ( talk) 04:27, 28 June 2011 (UTC) You forgot "when".-- Lee Tru. 16:51, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
Some more extended edits, or adding a section about Feta (cheese) in article, It would be more constructive by own. - Aperitis25 ( talk) 18:07, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
It seems more likely that cheese was discovered rather than invented. Stories about Arab boys "inventing" cheese seem apocryphal to me. Hunters and gatherers consumed virtually every part of the kill including, for example, marrow, brains, internal organs. It is unlikely these ancients would have wasted the stomach contents either. If a young mammal was killed, it would very likely have had curds in its stomach. This seems a more likely source of the first cheese--discovered in the stomachs of game and only recreated later. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jay37064 ( talk • contribs) 23:04, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
There are many references to hunters and gatherers such as the Sami, eating "the partially digested stomach contents of reindeer, which they had killed." ( http://www.utexas.edu/courses/sami/diehtu/siida/hunting/jonsa.htm). If the killed animal had been nursing, curds would definitely have been present in the stomach contents. Those curds would have been eaten. Was that not the first cheese? That seems a more likely route to cheese than waiting tens of thousands of years for some nomad to use an animal skin to transport fresh milk... Most ancient foods were discovered (bread, wine, beer) from natural processes and man later learned how to duplicate those processes. Jay37064 ( talk) 11:49, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
The Cambridge Encyclopedia of Hunters and Gatherers notes that the "Stomach contents and organs were eaten fresh." Given that young mammals consume milk and the stomachs of mammals produce rennin, the stomach contents of young mammals would have contained cheese curds, and we are assured by experts that hunters and gatherers ate the stomach contents. Thus, the first cheese would have likely come from naturally occurring curds. In any case, the source cited in the original article is a foodie blog with no source citations... The whole original history seems nonsensical. A stomach wouldn't be a good choice for a storage container because it is thick and watery and would rot rather quickly. Skin and certain other organs (bladder) are another matter, but don't contain rennin... Jay37064 ( talk) 20:19, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
The lactose section sounds more like a preach than anything containing valuable information. Do lactose intolerant people really need to be told to avoid eating cheese? I'd rather read a short synopsis of a) what is lactose,and 2) what are the physiological causes for lactose intolerance. I realize there is a whole other article on that topic, but this section is silly and needs to be fleshed out with serious information rather than worthless preaching. Wikipedia should strive for a higher level of information. Cheese is far too important to reduce the topic to silly, inane, empty ramblings. -- MarioSmario ( talk) 21:18, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Some editor damaged the language codes (or whatever). They appear as red garbage at the bottom instead. 24.48.126.186 ( talk) 02:10, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
Can anyone find the source for the "Eating more cheese 'can help fat people lose weight', study claims" reference? So far I can find only news articles. It seems like the finding was a PhD thesis and there is no peer reviewed journal article. I don't know wikipedia's standards for these things, but I would imagine that facts from a study that did not lead to a journal article should at least have a disclaimer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.119.252.83 ( talk) 03:11, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
Agreed over your concern for sources - this does sound a very odd claim indeed. ACEOREVIVED ( talk) 10:56, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
Why SS-Reichsführer redirects here? Is that some kind of joke? -- Gspinoza ( talk) 07:22, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
I tried to look up Slandering today and it redirected here.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.116.171.11 ( talk) 19:34, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
I notice that Cheese wheel redirects here, and yet there is no mention of them on the page
The Truckle article, is not very substantial, but could almost certainly be expanded from the content of those pages that currently link to it. And or it could be merged into this article. EdwardLane ( talk) 10:48, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
"Cheesemonger" redirects to the article on the 1st Regiment of Life Guards (nicknamed "Cheesemongers"). Should there not also be a reference to the term in its literal sense of "a seller of cheese"? The term is mentioned in a number of other articles, e.g. the one on Paxton & Whitfield, a long-established cheesemonger in London. GDBarry ( talk) 16:37, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
I've now created a disambiguation page for " cheesemonger" with an entry that redirects here. I've added a short paragraph explaining the term although I think it probably deserves its own article (cf. " fishmonger"). GDBarry ( talk) 10:10, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
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In the section regarding East Asia, it is implied that Nepal and Bhutan are part of East Asia even though they are South Asian countries.
76.185.134.167 (
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I might have missed it, but ricotta is an interesting case of a non-cheese cheese. Longinus876 ( talk) 04:11, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
Question, how can a cheese be a "non-cheese cheese" I know what ricotta is, I've even made some, and it seems like cheese to me.-- Lee Tru. 16:56, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
"the effect of making milk in an animal stomach " Under history of cheese. Making something,but obviously not milk.
IceDragon64 ( talk) 18:16, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
Framunda: Framunda cheese is a cheese native to the Deuseldorf/Dingleberry section of Germany. It's aged in a wooden smeeling snatch and has a taste similar to that of limburger with a hint of port wine flavor. It comes in many varities ranging from creamy and salty to sweet to fishy even. It is said to go best with anchovies and boxed wine. Framunda can be aged anywhere from a few days to in your case, many years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.189.66.93 ( talk) 07:44, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
The section on health and cheese could mention the concerns that have been faced over the amount of salt in cheese, especially blue-veined cheese. This was mentioned on the news on the Radio Four programme "Today" on November 29, 2012. ACEOREVIVED ( talk) 10:54, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
In fact, I think that the news broadcast said that cheese may have more salt than crisps! ACEOREVIVED ( talk) 10:58, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
Changed "Cheesemaking" to "Cheese Making" Maxwell the scribblenaut ( talk) 00:44, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
"Cheese is rarely found in East Asian dishes, as lactose intolerance is relatively common in that part of the world and hence dairy products are rare." This statement is false. Cheese is a processed dairy product, with small to negligible quantities of lactose. South Europeans and Middle Easterners, like most populations, are also overwhelmingly lactose intolerant (see lactose tolerance), and are large, traditional producers and consumers of cheese. Indeed it cheese-making is generally considered to be a method of rendering milk nutrients into a form better tolerated by lactose intolerant peoples. 86.27.249.32 ( talk) 19:23, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
First what's the point in this paragraph? Probably should be removed. Second the main thing that annoys me is Paneer according to the wikipedia page is "a fresh cheese common in South Asian cuisine ... of Indian Subcontinent origin often referred in the Vedas dating back to 6000 BC" in other words blatantly from outside Europe the Middle East and the Americas and extremely common. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.24.182.48 ( talk) 14:28, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Am I the only one that sees the MASSIVE contradiction here:
"A review of the medical literature published in 2012 noted that: "Cheese consumption is the leading contributor of SF (saturated fat) in the U.S. diet, and therefore would be predicted to increase LDL-C (LDL cholesterol) and consequently increase the risk of CVD (cardiovascular disease)."
Compared to: "It found that: "Based on results from numerous prospective observational studies and meta-analyses, most, but not all, have shown no association and in some cases an inverse relationship between the intake of milk fat containing dairy products and the risk of CVD, CHD (coronary heart disease), and stroke. A limited number of prospective cohort studies found no significant association between the intake of total full-fat dairy products and the risk of CHD or stroke....Most clinical studies showed that full-fat natural cheese, a highly fermented product, significantly lowers LDL-C compared with butter intake of equal total fat and saturated fat content." [28]"
Suggestions to remove most of the first paragraph, anybody?-- 197.79.0.7 ( talk) 19:47, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
First, the article shouldn't be semi-protected, nothing in the history suggests that it should have been in the first place. Second, for months the article has led with "Cheese is a food derived from milk that is produced in a wide range of flavors, textures, and forms by coagulation of the milk protein casein". This is poor phrasing since "forms" is meant as the end of the list but also can be misread as "forms by coagulation of the milk protein casein", which is accurate but then grammatically awkward. It just needs an edit. The phrasing prior to the edit that put this in (Aug 4) was superior. I can't make a change due to semi-protected status and having zero interest in ever having an account again, but that's another story. 70.183.190.29 ( talk) 23:56, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
It's a new page of History of Foods. Initially, from Spain, but interisting for all countries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Egballes ( talk • contribs) 09:56, November 23, 2013 (UTC)
Chymosin should be wikilinked and anyway introduced in the article. It just comes out of the blue. I'd do it myself but it's protected. 219.79.73.248 ( talk) 03:59, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
Imbucase is an account of a British government committee concerned with the import of butter and cheese during the 1st World War so it appears to be relevant to the Cheese article.-- Johnsoniensis ( talk) 19:11, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
The link to the British Cheese Board is no longer functioning.
The correct page is: http://www.britishcheese.com/
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205.202.152.2 ( talk) 19:18, 14 November 2014 (UTC) Cheese is the number one favorite snack for cats in the world! :)
"Observation that the effect of making milk in an animal stomach gave more solid and better-textured curds may have led to the deliberate addition of rennet." should presumably read "the effect of making CHEESE in an animal stomach" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.143.179.242 ( talk) 23:04, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
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Please remove "Today, Americans buy more processed cheese than "real", factory-made or not.[16]", with no replacement text necessary.
Despite the source, I don't think this was ever accurate, and certainly not in 2015. Digging around, I'm finding some contradictory data, but nothing that supports the assertion that processed cheese outsells real cheese. One useful source, the USDA: http://www.ers.usda.gov/media/146945/ldpm19301_1_.pdf. Scroll down to figure 2 and note that the authors are using "American" to refer to traditionally American styles like Cheddar, Jack and Colby, *not* processed cheese, which has its own category. Between the various real cheeses (Cheddar varieties, non-American and cottage), you're looking at between 25-30 lbs. annually per person. Processed cheese sits between 5-10 lb.
Different numbers but the same basic conclusion can be found here ( http://www.ers.usda.gov/amber-waves/2014-june/trends-in-us-per-capita-consumption-of-dairy-products,-1970-2012.aspx#.VMcVKNJ4opA), which states that in 2012, Americans ate 33.5 pounds of cheese per person, of which 13 lbs. was processed American cheese. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonas42 ( talk • contribs) 04:36, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
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Switzerland Matiamuller ( talk) 07:04, 7 May 2015 (UTC) Most of cheese result from Switzerland, contry named rightly "land of cheese".
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Hello All, I have removed the phrase "though still rarely considered a part of local ethnic cuisines outside Europe, the Middle East, the Indian subcontinent, and the Americas." becasue A citation was requested. I found the text was plagiarised from a text from 1918. Much of this section, cheese modern history is plagiarized from the text 'the book of cheese' by Charles Thom. It should be rewritten. JoshMuirWikipedia ( talk) 09:37, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
"Cheese is rarely found in East Asian cuisines, presumably for historical reasons." tagged as Dubious. "presumably" is unencyclopedic. First, see Talk:Cheese/Archive_3#Asia, and Talk:Cheese/Archive_3#What_about_paneer.3F and Talk:Cheese/Archive_3#East_Asia! Maybe it is mainly for historical reasons, more so than lactose intolerance, maybe not. Lactose_intolerance#Diet seems to be relatively well-written and sourced. I propose we copy some of that content here. Agreed? -- Elvey( t• c) 01:21, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
the article says wrong information, francia and germania are not the no1 consumers of cheese, the worldwide no1 consumer of cheese is hellas. [4] [5]. the article is wrong! it uses bad reference which does not include the hellenic republique!! Κώστας Μαρτινίδης ( talk) 02:15, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
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change sellar to vendor 160.7.25.157 ( talk) 15:51, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
Please fix the error on page 1!
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@User:C.Fredie thank you for clarifying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aidan.kinseys ( talk • contribs) 00:46, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
"There is a legend – with variations – about the discovery of cheese by an Arab trader who used this method of storing milk." Earlier, the section says cheese may have already been discovered 10.000 years ago. Now I'm no expert on Arabs but I'm willing to bet all I have that they're not 10.000 years old. This "legend" must have been misquoted. Bataaf van Oranje (Prinsgezinde) ( talk) 20:53, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
I found the history section on cheese horribly disorganized. I chopped it into distinct paragraphs, from 8000 BC, to most recent claim. Also, it clearly was at one point organized differently because after I did the reorder, some paragraphs made more sense. Meaning someone actually deliberately screwed it up for some stupid reason. Bulmabriefs144 ( talk) 04:12, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
I would added 10000 of more about cheese picture into gallery and added three more picture into a part of cheese, I hope anybody can helping me to finding about the cheese picture into Gallery, I think the cheese article will need some best picture in this article, I think adding some cheese pictures of collection is not vandalism for the article, Just I think adding the gallery is need for about the cheese articles. User:Geoffreyrabbit ( talk) 15:19, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
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White cheese is made from goat milk and most Turkish people eat it a lot. Alpine1000 ( talk) 11:32, 29 July 2018 (UTC) Alpine1000 ( talk) 11:37, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
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Could you link the word "rennet" to the Rennet wiki page ( /info/en/?search=Rennet)? Thanks! JBookert ( talk) 17:55, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
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Sylvia Schmitt created cheese. Bridget18 ( talk) 16:17, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
The earliest reference of cheese in India dates back to 1400 BCE. [1] [2]
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Nowhere in the article does it discuss whether a rind is edible or not. or which rinds are edible and which aren't. 99.42.89.21 ( talk) 11:37, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
The opening sentence parenthetically mentions the textures and flavours of cheese before actually saying what it is.
“Cheese is a dairy product derived from milk that is produced in a wide range of flavors, textures, and forms by coagulation of the milk protein casein.”
It should read something like: “Cheese is a dairy product derived from milk that is formed by the coagulation of the protein casein. It is produced in a wide range of flavors, textures.”
In any case if that change is not satisfactory at least use correct grammar by changing the “that” to “which” in the original.
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Shantelle12345678910 ( talk) 01:55, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
cheese is a dairy product produced by cows originally.
The line "Rennet derived from animal slaughter, and thus cheese made with animal-derived rennet, is not vegetarian." does not qualify all types of vegetarians. There are portions of vegetarianism which allow for the consumption of cheeses with traditional rennet. Secondly, the process of rennet collection is covered directly on the rennet page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.56.188.218 ( talk) 14:20, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
Reference #38 is the sole source of the claims about CHD and SF intake from cheese. This review was funded by the Dairy Research Institute and it should be considered a biased source.
Why is this protected? Are there special interests being protected? Damosurfer ( talk) 19:33, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
Someone is deliberately misstating the source about what percentage of various countries’ cheese is exported. The table in the source shows what percentage of all cheese exports are from various countries not what percentage of each country’s cheese is exported. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:641:500:4dc8:b0ec:24ae:c09c:32f4 ( talk) 04:43, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
I was just reading this article and was struck by the first image - that of Red Hawk Cheese, which I'd never heard of. I figured it was significant in some way, but turns out it's just a random variety of cheese. Would it not be more appropriate for the first image to be of either a very common cheese (like mozzarella) or of a historically significant cheese? e.g. feta (similar to earliest forms of cheese) or gruyere (first industrially produced cheese) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.205.204.236 ( talk) 22:49, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
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Please include non dairy cheeses in content and so change description to say “ cheese is a product made using dairy or plant sources” instead of “is a dairy product” Cbarnaba ( talk) 11:31, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Under the chart Production of cheese – 2014 From whole cow milk - it say the european union with 9 tonnes. since the european union is not a country should it be removed from the list??-- 2001:8003:59DB:4100:5DCC:5D99:9A06:3E00 ( talk) 05:58, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
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Cheese is a rats favorite food and in tom and jerry jerry loves cheese. 173.56.67.250 ( talk) 14:30, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
...but this article doesn't say much about cheese wheels except for its use in idioms and expressions. I noticed this has been brought up before in 2012: Talk:Cheese/Archive 3#Cheese_Wheel Is there a better article we can redirect Cheese wheel to? Cheesemaking and History of cheese do not discuss cheese wheels either. Sn1per ( talk) 23:50, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
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The link in the first paragraph to coagulation goes to blood coagulation, not milk. 2A01:4C8:72:A70B:24E0:199A:3079:4118 ( talk) 18:10, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
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cheese cheese cheese BroskiGS ( talk) 20:49, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
Cheese reputedly helps sleep, and makes dreams more vivid (except Cheshire where dreams are not recalled), according to the British Cheese Board. I think we should have a section in the cheese article about this. Does anyone know of good sources for such a section? FreeFlow99 ( talk) 18:36, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
Cheese is actually a mini alien that hides in the form of cheese and eats your organs — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.112.114.159 ( talk) 18:59, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Chees. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 2#Chees until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Anarchyte ( talk • work) 05:05, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
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cheese is important and I need to let it free by editing LMAO NUBCAKEPIZZA27th ( talk) 17:24, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
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The etymology section begins by claiming... Whoops. I was off the mark on this. I'm just going to delete that. — Preceding
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Please remove "and" from the beginning of the first sentence. It doesn't make any sense to say "cheese is a dairy product and produced in..." 122.150.71.249 ( talk) 03:43, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
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In the "Etymology" section, please remove
That gave rise to chese (in Middle English) and cīese or cēse (in Old English).
and add
That gave rise to cīese or cēse (in Old English) and chese (in Middle English).
It makes more sense to put Old English before Middle English, since OE preceded ME. 122.150.71.249 ( talk) 21:47, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
Done Mind matrix 22:29, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
I'm not going to do it unilaterally right now, but maybe a little thought: The lead image is (and has been for years) not an especially good one to illustrate the subject. Red Hawk cheese is a niche product, made by one dairy in one location (which is thus getting extra exposure); seems to me that it would be better either to have a selection of cheeses (the currently third image, for example, or another further down the article) or, if we want a single example, something which is much more universal than Red Hawk ~ Parmesan, perhaps, or cheddar, the single most popular cheese in the world ~ and thus better provides and image of the subject. If we can establish a consensus on this, it might prevent the addition of more pictures of cheese which some editors like ~ there's one of feta there as i write which, like Red Hawk, is not especially good as a lead image. Thoughts? Happy days ~ Lindsay H ello 09:00, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
"The solid curds are then separated from the liquid whey and pressed into finished cheese. This is not universal for all cheeses and thus needs an edit. Not true for cottage cheese and most fresh cheeses which are often not separated and usually not pressed. Better as "For most cheeses, the solid curds..." 70.187.192.243 ( talk) 19:15, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
If I read the sources and did the arithmetic right it adds up to about the same as Spain. Anyone like to check that using your own sources and arithmetic? Chidgk1 ( talk) 18:20, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
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Serial commas appear in most of the introduction, but there's a spot where one is missing. Please add a comma after "chives". 49.198.51.54 ( talk) 11:02, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
paragraph 2 needs brackets around annatto to make it a wiki link
like this: annatto
because a lot of people don't know that annatto is a simple seed 73.170.203.143 ( talk) 05:22, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
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Please amend this
Most cheeses achieve their final shape when the curds are pressed into a mold or form.
like so:
Most cheeses achieve their final shape when the curds are pressed into a mold or form, traditionally producing large cheese wheels or small barrel-shaped truckles.
Thank you. 2A00:23C6:54CF:1001:41CA:F5BB:9F2E:FEB1 ( talk) 21:00, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
The contribution of Vlachs to the fabrication of Cheese in Balkans is not well known by many editors. Vlachs were and are the main producers of cheese in Balkans. They were known as the shepherds of Balkans. Their cheese was appreciated in Constantinople as I showed in reference. Also they are connected to the "Feta" cheese made in Greece. Mestter ( talk) 13:29, 25 September 2023 (UTC)