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The UVA stuff reads like a press release. Wikipedia's purpose is to serve as an encyclopedia, not an advertisement. I removed some of the POV language from the description.
Which pages are correct?
Lewis was born in Albemarle County, near Charlottesville. I rode my school bus everyday past the historical marker of Lewis' birthplace on the way to Meriwether Lewis Elementary School. Its quite close to the small town of Ivy. RebelAt 22:16, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Any school child in Albemarle knows that both Lewis & Clark were born in Albemarle, Lewis near Ivy (I, too, rode my school bus past the historical marker) and Clark a stone's throw from the modern city borders. It confuses things that Charlottesville was, at the time, only a few square miles, and Albemarle was four times bigger. Charlottesville grew once it was named the county seat (replacing Scottsville), at the time that the overly-large Albemarle was subdivided.
Here's a picture and a map of the location of the historical marker, confirming the location of Lewis' birth. And here's the historical marker for Mosby, showing that he was born in Powhatan, but moved to Charlottesville at the age of 8.
What is meant by this statement:
He is certainly well known enough in Charlottesville to have had a school named after him.
Went in and erased the second part of the above sentence. The article link from his name pretty much explains who exactly was our Mr. McGuffey.
RebelAt 22:43, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
A cheesy attempt at marketing by a local photogapher. Don't abuse the good will of Wikipedia. Shame, shame, shame on you.
As of November 19, 2006, I am sorry, but I must fail this article for the following reasons (although failure may not be limited to these reasons):
1. It is well written. In this respect:
(a) it has compelling prose, and is readily comprehensible to non-specialist readers; (b) it follows a logical structure, introducing the topic and then grouping together its coverage of related aspects; where appropriate, it contains a succinct lead section summarising the topic, and the remaining text is organised into a system of hierarchical sections (particularly for longer articles); (c) it follows the Wikipedia Manual of Style including the list guideline; (d) necessary technical terms or jargon are briefly explained in the article itself, or an active link is provided.
2. It is factually accurate and verifiable. In this respect:
(a) it provides references to any and all sources used for its material; (b) the citation of its sources using an accepted form of inline citation is required (this criterion is disputed by editors on Physics and Mathematics pages who have proposed a subject-specific guideline on citation, as well as some other editors — see talk page); (c) sources should be selected in accordance with the guidelines for reliable sources; (d) it contains no elements of original research.
and "It is home to the Downtown Mall, one of the longest outdoor pedestrian malls in the nation..." Full references are required by Wikipedia.
Conclusion: I believe this article can become a Good Article with some work. More background about Charlottesville itself is definitely required, and more statements must be referenced. The only other issue is that the Manual of Style should be reviewed. Still, the article could use some more expansions, as some sections are stubs (Education). With a good bit of work, this article may be renominated. Dhastings 02:45, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
I removed the following:
Charlottesville has become way too pretentious. At one time it was a great hippy, intellectual community, now it is the land of the snobs and errogant. It is divided between the haves and have nots. The City overassessed the property values to bring in a larger tax base and drove the housing costs up. As a result the city is now fully gentrified. This has caused the crime rate to go up 11% in 2006, the housing market to be saturated, the homeless population to increase, traffic to be more than the infrastructure to manage and the wonderful rural landscape to be destroyed by devlopers. True Charlottesvillians are very upset, and fellow Wiki's need to know this. That's the truth.
That is considered vandalism right?
Aidepikiwym 19:30, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Anyone know why this was deleted? Fair use doctrine is pretty wide across all of Wikipedia for such usage and virtually every town, city, county, and state, articles make exactly the same uses. ~ (The Rebel At) ~ 22:18, 13 January 2007 (UTC) ___________________________________________________________________________
Changed 'King George III of England'. England and Scotland became one country in 1707 (by mutual consent) so King George III was King of the United Kingdom. Just as Elizabeth II is not 'Queen of England' as some people are so fond of saying. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.132.44.1 ( talk) 13:01, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
The order of the sections was:
I changed it to:
In my previous edit, I made a new Transportation section by expanding the transportation info that was in the Intro. Also I made the long Rail section a subsection of Transportation.
I re-ordered the sections to de-emphasize the "Notable people" section. See the "Failed GA" critique above: "most of the information is about people who are claimed to have come from the city."
I grouped Media with Education. The order is still sort of random, but less random than before. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Colfer2 ( talk • contribs) 05:40, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
The blogs listed under Media are: "cvillenews.com by Waldo Jaquith, theHook.net by the Hook weekly and cVillain.com by the community members." I undid this addition: ", a media property of local boutique investment bank, DeParis Redinger LLC(link), with content created solely by the community."
A user commented about my undo on my User Talk page. The comment said:
WaldoJ responded:
Any other opinions? The addition did not seem notable to me. I visited the linked Deparis website http://www.depred.com and Googled also to an article about its acquisition of the cVillain blog: http://www.c-ville.com/index.php?cat=141404064420311&ShowArticle_ID=11432910074040841 as well as a press release. Still didn't seem notable to me, more promotional. "Waldo Charlottesville" has a lot deeper Google results.
And are these really the top 3 blogs? I won't comment on quality, just notability. Waldo, don't you know a site that ranks them?
Opinions? For now, I will add CvilleBlogs.com, it lists all 3 in question + many more. - Colfer2 19:28, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
I reverted the addition a blog called outskirts.com because it did not have much activity on it and Googling showed not much popularity. Not notable. Colfer2 ( talk) 23:38, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
What is a good new band policy? Once this section was totally out of hand with unknown bands mixed with well known bands in no particular order. So we alphabetized it and removed any musicians without their own Wikipedia pages. Simple enough criteria. What now? Sons of Bill is pretty notable, they've been reviewed a lot, etc., but have no Wikipedia page yet. I deleted the addition of their link on Charlottesville, Virginia with this comment:
Removed new musician without a wikipedia page. Make a new wikipage, if it does not get deleted after a week, link to it here. Otherwise it gets totally out of hand. Or argue it in discussion.
Will that work? Wait to see if obscure band's new page gets deleted??????? Colfer2 ( talk) 05:58, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Somebody from a musictoday.com IP (24.75.69.134) added Don Barnes of 38 Special. Any support for that? - Colfer2 ( talk) 15:32, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps it's time to establish a separate entry for notable people from C'ville? (To pick a city at random, List of people from Seattle, Washington performs the same function for Seattle.) There really have been a substantial number of notables from here over the centuries, and the list is getting a bit unwieldy. Any support/objections?-- WaldoJ ( talk) 21:11, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
As someone who grew up in Charlottesville, I'm familiar with "C'ville" and "Hoo-ville (more a sports nickname)," but I'm completely unfamiliar with the nickname "The Hook." I'm aware of the free newszine, The Hook, and their website states that the city earned it due to the propensity of UVa students getting C's on their report cards. A google search only reveals the assertion connected to the newszine The Hook (referencing why it chose that name). Can anyone shed any light on this nickname? I simply find it odd that I could spend the first 18 years of my life, plus yearly visits home to the folks, without ever hearing of it. Is there some sort of UVa institutional traditional nickname? ~ (The Rebel At) ~ 19:37, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
With all the recent edits to the education section, I am ashamed to admit I did not previously notice that many of the schools listed are in Albemarle County. They should be (re)moved from this page, and unless I hear any objections, I think I may do that. B.S. Lawrence ( talk) 15:30, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
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I'd like to have added some links to the various organizations listed on the page. For example:
In the Media section: Blue ridge outdoors: http://www.blueridgeoutdoors.com/ Charlottesville Family Living: http://www.charlottesvillefamily.com/ Albemarle Magazine: http://www.albemarlemagazine.com/
If I were able to edit it, I would likely add more. Perhaps later.
Thanks!
Sswanson ( talk) 02:15, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
Under the heading transportation, I believe the Charlottesville Wikipedia article ought to mention U.S. Bicycle Route 76 (AKA TransAmerica Bike Route), which passes through the city of Charlottesville and Albemarle County ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Bicycle_Route_76).
In addition, Charlottesville was rated a "Silver" Bicycle Friendly Community by the League of American Bicyclists. http://www.charlottesville.org/Index.aspx?page=635&recordid=1864&returnURL=%2FIndex.aspx This significant because it is only of only 39 communities nationwide and 2 in the state that are rated Silver. http://www.bikeleague.org/programs/bicyclefriendlyamerica/communities/pdfs/bfc_master_list_spring2012.pdf
Changed the 2000 population from 45,049 (the original 2000 Census figure) to 40,099, the revised Census figure. The City challenged the original figure as too high due to overcounting students and won the challenge. The revised figure makes significantly more sense with the others in terms of the development trend in the city.
Source: http://esb.ccs.k12.va.us/attachments/8084bc46-fc25-4373-a243-e9ab0e58d22e.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.4.188.49 ( talk) 01:17, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
I modified the entry for Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche to reflect that he and his family are no longer living in the area. I cannot find a reference, however, to the fact that they ever lived in Charlottesville proper. I believe that to be the case but I know Serenity Ridge is in Nelson County (Shipman) and not Charlottesville. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boscodegama ( talk • contribs) 19:55, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
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I think the 2017 Charlottesville attack should be listed on here somewhere. – Nixinova ⟨ T| C⟩ 08:06, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
Right now, Charlottesville is extremely notable for the protests. It is appropriate to link to the hatnote, as this article is near the top of many search results for "Charlottesville". Anyone not sure they reached the correct city will find the link helpful. – Zfish118⋉ talk 22:19, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
The number of injured, cited as 19, is incorrect. That figure, though often cited, only included people taken to UVA hospital. 11 other people were taken to Martha Jefferson hospital for injuries related to the car attack.
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Just noticed this hasn't been updated yet. [1] Pegazzani ( talk) 13:34, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
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the modern history part is full of unconfirmed allegations and politically charged language. left wing extremists are rewriting history in their image, facts and evidence are ignored. wikipedia degenerates into nothing but propaganda this way.
they are constantly removing this version to establish their own narrative:
In August 2017, the city was the site of the " Unite the Right rally", organized by [2] far right groups to protest against the removal of the Robert Edward Lee Sculpture in Lee Park. [3] After the rally, a white nationalist collided with a road block consisting of stopped cars and armed protesters, allegedly resulting in the death of one protester and injuring 19 others. [4] 2003:6:53D3:1D95:7595:444E:A59B:4E9D ( talk) 02:51, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
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The rally certainly was a newsworthy event, and deserves mention in this article. However, as written the article gives undue weight to this event just because it happened recently. The rally was not 5 times more important than, e.g., the 1958 closure of public schools, yet it is given 5 times the space and prominence. The rally already has its own very detailed Wikipedia entry. A very brief summary--of similar length to the mention of the 1958 events--should be included in the subsection titled "Notable Religious and Racial Events." That summary should link to the main article about the rally. The rest of the material about the rally should be deleted: it's already well-covered in its own article, and it distorts the History section of the Charlottesville article. Apruzan ( talk) 19:11, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
Seeing that Charlottesville is an independent city, it would be great if someone could offer an explanation, specific to Charlotteville, how certain government functions, normally attributed to the county level, are handled. For example, courts, district attorney, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.189.21.155 ( talk) 13:25, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
The redirect Justice Park has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 October 23 § Justice Park until a consensus is reached. BD2412 T 17:40, 23 October 2023 (UTC)