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Would like some history on who invented it. -- Ericg33 ( talk) 02:16, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
In the sentence: "It is most commonly used in forestry and by tree surgeons, to fell trees and to remove branches and foliage, and to harvest firewood.", I believe it would be more appropriate to change "Forestry" to "Logging". Forestry is the study and management of forests whereas Logging is the actual process of cutting and harvesting timber. QuickDraw 03:45, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
That was one reason I didn't change the article without seeking some feedback from other users. I surmised that the term had a slightly different meaning in other locations. I have noticed this in numerous other articles on various subjects. I understand the intent of the term "Forestry" in this case and do not have a problem with its use. Having lived in an area where logging was the major industry, logging and forestry are 2 very different activities. It would be interesting to hear from other readers in various regions what their definition of Forestry and Logging are. A collaborative effort of this magnitude requires one be open to "expanding" his knowledge, open to other ways of conveying a message or idea and being able to compromise when it's in the best interest of the project. QuickDraw 16:32, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
Perhaps the compromise is to add Logging to the list. In my opinion, the development of the chain saw to what it is today was a result of improvements made for the logging industry. I am looking at this from the perspective of also preserving the history of its use for the benefit of future readers. In the west and pacific northwest the chain saw is still the main tool used to fell (fall) trees. The size of trees as well as rugged terrain do not allow for the use of other types of mechanized equipment that can cut and delimb the tree in one operation. QuickDraw 14:57, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
I do believe your are right. I can see how the difinition of the terms used will vary, depending on an individual's background. It seems the aim of Wikipedia is to serve as an encyclopedic database of knowledge that can be used as a reference. I would hope that, to the best of each editor's knowledge and information, the information added here reflects the accepted "definition", either by the industry, or group actively involved in it. I believe a Forester would not consider the term logging, to be interchangeable with Forestry and vice versa. QuickDraw 04:22, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi. I'm the person who, back in prehistory, added the word "forestry" to the article, and did so fully meaning "forest management" and not "logging" (although I have no objection to "...and logging" being added to the article, if others feel what's there now isn't sufficiently clear). Chainsaws are used for a variety of forestry applications beside just chopping down commercial trees - they (or tools so like them that, at least in January 2004, Wikipedia would lump them all together in one article) are used to clear overgrowth, cut off diseased branches, for coppicing, for pollarding, and for the felling (thinning) of trees of uneconomic size. Sometimes this is to support commercial logging, sometimes to support a healthy forest balance, and sometimes for the market production of trees for commercial transplantation. This, surely in anyone's english, means a good deal more than just "logging", which means the cutting down and stripping of mature trees for commercial exploitation. My original wording "It is most commonly used in forestry and by tree surgeons, both to fell trees and to remove branches and foliage" [1] seems clear (to me), but the subsequent removal of that vital "both" by the grammar midgets (turning, wrongly, the sentence into a mere list) robbed the sentence of much of its clarity. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 04:41, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
as in "Most modern gas operated saws today require a fuel mix of 2% (1:50). Gas that contains ethanol can result in problems of the equipment because Ethanol dissolves plastic, rubber and other material" Throughout most of the article 'gasoline (petrol)' is used but the word "gas" has crept in here. I think this is a north American shortening of 'gasoline' but for the rest of the world 'gas' is a state of matter: like solid and liquid. So I'll change Gas to Gasoline in the article. Alberich4 ( talk)
Logger needs to be improved and cleaned up, in case anyone here might be interested. -- Walter Siegmund (talk) 16:23, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
Also, Snag needs attention from a North American editor. The N.A. meaning usage seems to be somewhat different than that of Austrialia. -- Walter Siegmund (talk) 02:01, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
This article deals with a specific type of chainsaw, but there are, or have been, other types of chainsaw. It may surprise the reader to learn that an early type of chainsaw (not motorized, and not with an endless chain) was developed in Scotland in the late eighteenth century. However, it was not for use in forestry or logging, but in surgery!
As above the chainsaw was invented in Scotland in the eighteenth century by surgeons.
Folks, the picture needs to be changed. Look at it. The guy is using his bare hands. He needs gloves for safety. -- SafeLibraries 00:04, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
The newer picture "Battery powered chainsaw in commercial use, 2022" is equally horrendous. No gloves, no leg protection, No boots, hair all over the place. No eye or ear protection, 'though the latter may not be necessary with an electric saw. Needs removal. Alberich4 ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 22:23, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
This section now contains more text than any other part of the article, which is, of course, good. All information is good. I think maybe that the 'In culture' section is so good now that it may be time for it to fly free and set itself up on a page of its own, linked of course from here or whatever. Any objections? The Boy that time forgot 20:45, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
I think the chainsaw article needs to have a pop culture section, with little notes on zombie killing and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.9.164.49 ( talk) 04:51, 25 April 2007 (UTC).
True.
Don't forget bruce campbell
I agree... I actually came to this site just to see what the pop culture section said about the chainsaw on wikipedia. Since there was none, I put a short blurb up. I'm not that familiar with the Texas Chainsaw Massacre movies though so someone might want to add more detail, since I just put a vague statement about chainsaws featuring prominently in those movies (I assume they do anyway, given the titled and the short bits I have seen over the years). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.142.181.36 ( talk • contribs) 14:03, 2007 June 10.
I agree, whilst pop culture sections do tend to grow exponentially, chainsaws are very prominent in popular culture, and Wsiegmund's complete removal of the section was uncalled for, at least without the creation of a "chainsaws in popular culture" article first. 84.71.15.90 22:29, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Resident Evil 4 does not include the chainsaw as a usable weapon. This should be taken out or the statement should be revised, since only specific enemy characters can wield them. 72.250.245.105 ( talk) 02:27, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
I've created a full separate Popular culture article ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chainsaws_in_Popular_Culture) It's probably not totally complete, but it's a good start AKLR ( talk) 05:50, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
I removed the following content. In my opion, it read too much like an advertisement and violated WP:SPAM. Walter Siegmund (talk) 04:37, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
I have very limited experience with chain saws, and even then only with very small varieties. Anyway, does anyone know why the blades are shaped the way they are - IE not like the teeth on a circular saw? I read the safety information on how the depth guide works, does anyone have additional information? Thanks,-- Legomancer 21:58, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm working up to a full article on cutting chains. I approached Oregon for some photos but they never got back to me, so just to be a pig I'll photograph brand new stihl chains. The standards are pretty clear-cut once they're laid out in one place even though manufacturers' part numbers are often an alphabet soup... I hope to be able to unravel these too.( Nailgunner ( talk) 22:52, 17 February 2009 (UTC))
I don't think my poor English will suffice, but it might be interesting to add a chapter on chainsaws for stone, like the one you can see here [3]. Anyone in for writing it?-- Satrughna02 ( talk) 14:43, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Dear Mintrick, why have you changed the layout of the popcult chapter? The previous layout prevented people putting in nonsense all the time, whil referring them toe the other page -- Satrughna ( talk) 09:50, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
I saw today a section on vegetable chain lubrication oil was removed. As there were no references, you were right to do so, but the point is interesting. In my country (Holland) some chain saw oil is on a vegetable basis (perhaps most of it, by now, it has been some years since I used it...), for environmental reasons. (it may even be so by law, I don't know). Here it is a commercial product. Any more background on this?-- Satrughna ( talk) 16:14, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
I was looking through the history of the article, and I realized that this article is often vandalized. Does anyone else think this page needs to be semi-protected? If we get a consensus, would any admin be willing to do this for us? Jmfriesen ( talk) 01:42, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
Yes I understand that and also know why, most admins don't admit that a chainsaw is a valid sex toy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.27.225.24 ( talk) 01:57, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
I think it would be worth adding a section about the use of chainsaws by paramilitary groups in Colombia to carry out massacres and mutilate bodies. Here are some references:
http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/colombia/chain-saw.htm http://www.hrw.org/legacy/reports/reports98/colombia/Colom989-04.htm http://colombiajournal.org/colombia33.htm
Thank you for your suggestion. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). -- Walter Siegmund (talk) 02:32, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
The photograph of the sawyer violates a number of Federal safety rules (at least as they relate to working in a National Forest) and violates two common safety practices. I wonder if that matters or whether it's reasonable to have photographs showing citable infractions. It probably doesn't matter it just makes me itch!
The long sleeve shirt is correct however it's folded back or rolled up. Eye protection is present however professional sawyers also use a face shield or mesh. Maybe I'm just being anal but when I see something I would be cited for being shown like this, something in me wants to change it so that the photograph shows better safety behavior. The 'pedia's focus is upon substance, obviously, and safety violations are trivial yet wouldn't a better photograph be, well, better? Damotclese ( talk) 01:13, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
The addition and then removal of the comment about "pneumatic chainsaw" would be really nice to have someone research and add to the article with suitable references and possibly photographs. I think I may do that if I can avoid turning the coverage of the device in to an advertisment. Damotclese ( talk) 22:33, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
The top picture is clearly an unacceptable and ridiculous product placement. Product placement should be totally banned from a serious encyclopedia unless there are interests behind it. Heinz is certainly ketchup but not all ketchups are Heinz! I suggest that admins change the picture and remove the stupid tag: A Shtiel saw. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.64.22.75 ( talk) 19:30, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
The Editor who is removing external links, please explain why you are removing them and if there is a good reason I won't need to restore your removal. Thanks. Damotclese ( talk) 15:44, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Good catch on the promotion edit, that was advertising. The editor who added that sentence, you might want to look at providing an external link or, if you provide a list of safety certification companies and governmental agencies, add a section that covers the need for safety training and certifications. As it is, what was basically advertising had to be removed.
I mention it because finding suitable safety training and certification classes that governmental agencies will accept has been in my experience very difficult, and the compilation and maintenance of a list of certification entities would be helpful, in my opinion. Damotclese ( talk) 16:08, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
The photo in the Maintenance section shows someone standing on the material he is cutting which is a gross safety violation, a behavior that is trained in to professionals not to do, and a behavior which gets Federal employees working in fire and forestry reprimanded or fired. I think that photo should be replaced with something showing safe behavior.
Also the photo in Safety shows unsafe behavior with (1) footing not cleared of tripping and obstructing material and (2) de-limbing after having made a full pie cut and (3) chaps that are long enough to wrap under the heel of the foot. I think that photo should also be replaced with something showing safer behavior. Damotclese ( talk) 16:51, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
For cutting high branches in trees there are small chainsaws on a big pole, do they have a special name? Should they be mentioend here? Also there exists jigsaws that have a chainsaw blade. Should they be nmentioned here or in the jigsaw article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.8.68.100 ( talk) 13:14, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
The article currently has almost nothing on small electric chainsaws sold for amateur use in domestic gardens. I suspect more of these are sold each year than all professional chainsaws combined. -- Ef80 ( talk) 23:41, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
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I saw an explanation of chain sharpening on Youtube, but found it hard to follow. They use all kinds of terminology—raker, tooth, rivet, pitch, chain size, bar depth—only some of which are clear. I came here for illumination, but there is no such detail in this article. Seems like there should be, unless it were in an article like chainsaw chain. — EncMstr ( talk) 23:47, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
A large chunk of text in the History section appears to be copied verbatim from this link: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15209147
Text quoted here for reference purposes:
Scott Med J. 2004 May;49(2):72-5. The chain saw--a Scottish invention.
Skippen M1, Kirkup J, Maxton RM, McDonald SW. Author information 1 Laboratory of Human Anatomy, University of Glasgow, Glasgow. Abstract The prototype of the chain saw familiar today in the timber industry was pioneered in the late 18th Century by two Scottish docors, John Aitken and James Jeffray, for symphysiotomy and excision of diseased bone respectively. The chain hand saw, a fine serrated link chain which cut on the concave side, was invented around 1783-1785. It was illustrated in Aitken's Principles of Midwifery or Puerperal Medicine (1785) and used by him in his dissecting room. Jeffray claimed to have conceived the idea of the chain saw independently about that time but it was 1790 before he was able to have it produced. In 1806, Jeffray published Cases of the Excision of Carious Joints by H. Park and P. F. Moreau with Observations by James Jeffray M.D.. In this communication he translated Moreau's paper of 1803. Park andMoreau described successful excision of diseased joints, particularly the knee and elbow. Jeffray explained that the chain saw would allow a smaller wound and protect the adjacent neurovascular bundle. While a heroic concept, symphysiotomy had too many complications for most obstetricians but Jeffray's ideas became accepted, especially after the development of anaesthetics. Mechanised versions of the chain saw were developed but in the later 19th Century, it was superseded in surgey by the Gigli twisted wire saw. For much of the 19th Century, however, the chain saw was a useful surgical instrument. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.172.173.157 ( talk) 17:00, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
Why is a Wraparound handle only availabe in the Usa? Do you know other Countries where one is availabe? I never saw one in Europe, why? We could write about that too?