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Merger?

Why can't this be merged with Catholic education? There is nothing here that suggests a separate article is necessary. Daniel Case 03:05, 23 January 2006 (UTC) reply

I totally agree. (I will work on it later tonight.) Tvaughn05 22:36, 23 January 2006 (UTC) reply

I agree with Tvaughn05 - do we really have to go through every country in the world to make this article complete - lets merge it Excalibur 19:54, 28 January 2007 (UTC) reply

With respect: Catholic Schools in the UK are a type of sui generis establishment, funded largely by the state, with some local diocescan funding. (Some, like S. Bede's in Manchester, are wholly fee-paying schools, however.) Granted, this doesn't alone justify a seperate article in itself, but I suggest that within the Catholic Education article there ought to be an extensive and discrete section on Catholic Schools, which encompasses some or all of this article. Added to that ought to be some information about Catholic schools in the UK, which I will add as soon as I can do a little more research; unless, of course, someone else wishes to do so first. Hail True Body 19:59, 20 November 2006 (UTC) reply

The picture in this article is of an Episcopal Choir, the Cathedral Choir School of Delaware, on their visit to the White White House. You can see the crest of the Episcopal Church on their vests. Kaarriagzh 14:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)karriaagzh reply

Hello. I think we should change (or at least add some references) the sentence that says "a requirement that the student must be Catholic to attend a Catholic school is extremely rare". I believe this is incorrect, as this is common practice in Puerto Rico. There, one must present a certificate of baptism in order to be enrolled in the school. Thank you. Eddie 03:54, 12 June 2007 (UTC) reply

While I believe it is uncommon to require a child to be Catholic, there is a "priority" list for admission: 1) Parents are members of the parish, 2) Parents are not members but are Catholic, 3) Parents are not Catholic. There may be state support of Catholic schools in Puerto Rico (and Canada and other states) that may make the priority list different, and there are limited seats in some schools. I know places are limited in my local parish. Some non-Catholics are turned away, I'm sure because of the priority list, but not because of bias, per se. Accepting all comers has been a guiding principle not only for decades but at least back a century. Student7 11:31, 12 June 2007 (UTC) reply

List of Catholic Schools

Is there a list of catholic schools in nj? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.225.156.40 ( talk) 15:04, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

In 2023-2024, New Jersey currently has 251 private Catholic Schools which serves over 74,000 students.

A list of all 251, as well as the Top 20 ranked schools, can be found on privateschoolreview.com and niche.com. In short, the top ranked private Catholic School for the 2023-2024 school year is the Delbarton School in Morristown, NJ.

Australia

No info on Australian Catholic schools?

Especially because Catholicism is the largest religion in Australia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.210.30.118 ( talk) 04:48, 30 January 2008 (UTC) reply

Why does anyone question why we require our students to be Catholic? Of course we do! We share the Spirit with our hearts and our minds, and need to have students who are of like mind to be effective.

Skwing ( talk) 22:08, 15 November 2008 (UTC) reply

Controversies and Urban legends

There are many urban legends about Catholic schools, which maintain that these schools mainly serve an indoctrination purpose. This should maybe be explored in the content of the article. [1] ADM ( talk) 15:38, 18 January 2009 (UTC) reply

I agree with the idea of adding in some urban legends about Catholic schools. This would clarify how the Catholic School works and the actual benefits behind the Catholics school system. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lady Aries ( talk • contribs) 23:21, 23 March 2009 (UTC) -- Lady Aries ( talk) 23:25, 23 March 2009 (UTC) reply

Another controversy is the notion that Chinese immigrants succeed and stay in school because the Chinese place a very high value on education - something that is allegedly not a defining feature of Roman Catholic culture. [2] ADM ( talk) 12:54, 20 April 2009 (UTC) reply

While Asian performance has been high in schools, as well as Jewish, and probably "New England", I haven't noticed much difference in "Roman Catholic culture" and any other culture in education. Most Catholics live in cities and today are generally better educated than most other people within their socio-economic groups except for the ones just mentioned. Student7 ( talk) 20:46, 22 April 2009 (UTC) reply

Article scope

An entry for the Phillipines discusses Catholic colleges. English speakers have made an assumption (bias?) that the article was supposed to mean elementary and secondary schools only. Conforming to English understanding of the scope of the article, I would like to delete that entry.

It does seem to beg the question: "What about Catholic colleges?" There does not seem to be a separate article. Student7 ( talk) 14:38, 19 February 2009 (UTC) reply

Funding for US Catholic schools

Not mentioned are the 11 or so states where public funding of parochial schools was not banned by Blaine Amendments to state constitutions. I went to parochial school in NJ decades ago and rode the public school bus (which did not go out of its way) to a place near where I could conveniently walk the few blocks to my school. Despite the shrillness of the haters, a lot of other financing must go on in states where it is legal. A reference was deleted for lack of a footnote. Probably examples should be supplied. Student7 ( talk) 11:53, 31 March 2009 (UTC) reply

Catholic hospital

It would be interesting if we could have a similar article about the Catholic hospital and the administrative questions that surround it. ADM ( talk) 21:06, 27 April 2009 (UTC) reply

Secularization of Catholic schools

It would perhaps be relevant to note the widespread secularization of Catholic schools since the publication of the document Gravissimum Educationis. While it cannot be said that this phenomenon is somehow related to the document, a number of social factors have made Catholic schools much more difficult to manage, such as the rapid ageing of priests and nuns, the socio-cultural effects of the Church's dialogue with the World, the educational policies of various secularist governments, the public acceptance of birth control, administrative negligence on the part of diocesan authorities, doctrinal or moral dissent within liberal Catholic institutions, the financial impact of the clerical abuse scandal, etc. ADM ( talk) 07:21, 12 June 2009 (UTC) reply

Catholic school and discipline

There is nothing in this article about discipline in Catholic schools, from corporal punishments of the past to modern procedures. Shouldn't that at least be mentioned somewhere in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.236.154.191 ( talk) 15:49, 12 August 2011 (UTC) reply

To include that, I think there would need to be substantial information from [[WP:RS

reliable sources]] on the topic specific to Catholic schools that isn't already discussed in School discipline and its subarticles. Are there sources that discuss how Catholic school discipline is/was substantially different from that in other schools? Zachlipton ( talk) 02:19, 13 August 2011 (UTC) reply

Corporal punishment has varied as widely in secular schools as well. I attended a Catholic school in the US (this is supposed to be a worldwide article) in the 1940s. Some boys were smacked in the palms of their hands for acting up. Usually the ones who could have cared less about the punishment! It kept the rest of us in line! :)

Later, in the 1970s, a dean in a Florida public middle school carried a paddle in the hall to stop commotion in between classes. I believe he used it until it was outlawed, but I forget when that was. I doubt that there was any wide "policy" on corporal punishment in the US that disagreed with public opinion. There were no major complaints about school punishment of boys in the 40s. Never heard of a girl who had "merited" that treatment. And yes, some schools were sued, but again, "deep pockets" prevails. Can't sue a school district unless it can be shown that it was deliberate policy. The same does not pertain for "private" organizations. Student7 ( talk) 21:26, 14 August 2011 (UTC) reply

Contentious second statement

I am just wondering how in the second statement: "As of 2011 the Church operates the world's largest non-governmental school system." ... it claims that AS OF 2011, and yet the reference/source it is being attributed to was published 6 years prior -- 2005.

This is the source it is being referred to: ^ Gardner, Roy; Denis Lawton, Jo Cairns (2005), Faith Schools, Routledge, p. 148, ISBN 978-0-415-33526-3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.85.4.110 ( talk) 01:38, 20 September 2013 (UTC) reply

Attendance claim relating to US schools, implausible

The section on US Catholic schools makes this (sourced) claim: "By the time of 1964-1965, 89% of students attended Catholic schools, the largest Catholic attendance ever seen in the history of the United States."

I don't have that source available to me, but it seems implausible that nearly 9 out of 10 students in the US attended Catholic schools. The entire public school system would have shrunk to nothing; every other school in the country would have closed. The main article on the subject states that, at it's peak, 50% of all CATHOLIC students attended such schools.

I hope somebody with access to the sourced material can make a correction

-- Bridgecross ( talk) 15:37, 16 July 2014 (UTC) reply

Yes, I agree. Here is the source (isbn:9781402057762) quoted in the article:

1964—1965. Catholic schools accounted for nearly 89% of all private school attendance and 12% of all school-age children in school (K-I 2) in the USA. The number of religious (priests. brothers. and sisters) was at its highest. Allowing schools to offer qualified teachers at minimal costs, meaning that most children in the 1940s and 1950s attended their parish school free of charge. with tuition being collected in the Sunday collection, plus help from wealthier families.

I will make the change. Bobsd ( talk) 00:09, 30 October 2014 (UTC) reply

Thanks, that makes much more sense... -- Bridgecross ( talk) 16:20, 3 December 2014 (UTC) reply

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