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Did you know... that the New York City Board of Estimate voted to demolish Fort Clinton(pictured) six times before the fort became a U.S. national monument?
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There is more than one fort Clinton, the second less famous one, was razed during the American Revolution by Clinton's army. Fort Clinton, was located on the popolopean creek, and the hudson river. Fort Clinton today is a national Historical site, alongside the applachain trail. There is also a zoo, and a museum on the site.
IUCN ratings?
Who keeps putting these things everywhere? I mean, really, does Castle Clinton conform to any of these criteria?:"natural sites which have heritage significance to indigenous peoples.
The area should be large enough to protect the integrity of the feature and its immediately related surroundings. "
Shoreranger 03:42, 12 March 2007 (UTC)reply
10/15/66 was a busy day for the NPS
(From the first section)
As with all historic areas administered by the National Park Service, Castle Clinton National Monument was listed on the National Register of Historic Places on October 15, 1966.
Wow, really, they all got listed the same day? I mean for all I know it could be true. Somebody should define "historic area" then.
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thundt (
talk) 20:39, 2 December 2010 (UTC)reply
That was the day the register was created. By the law creating it, all National Historic Landmarks and NPS historic areas were automatically listed.
Station1 (
talk) 05:41, 3 December 2010 (UTC)reply
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RoySmith (
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Overall: @
Epicgenius: Good article as per usual! Im going to have to assume good faith on the New York Times articles (I didn't buy their subscription) and carry on.
Onegreatjoke (
talk) 17:31, 19 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Advised?
'a second clerk advised them about their destination'.
This strongly suggests that they were told and made to go to a particular place.
Shouldn't this say they were questioned about their intended destination, then perhaps advised on transportation etc.
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Aaaaaaaaa sorry every time this week I've tried to open Wikipedia to do anything that requires actual brain cells, a mariachi band plays in my head and I close the tab in shame. ♠
PMC♠
(talk) 11:17, 19 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Heh, I get the feeling too sometimes. ;)
Epicgenius (
talk) 15:04, 19 July 2023 (UTC)reply
As usual I've made a few copyedits throughout, some larger ones that I've called out above and a few minor ones not noted. Feel free to revert or dispute them
No gripes in the lead - clear prose, concise summary
First para of "Original use", you have two sentences in a row that finish with "of fortifications in New York Harbor", which could maybe be tweaked
Was the artificial island build for the fort, or did it exist before? Do we know?
The artificial island was completed circa 1810, if I recall correctly, so probably built for the fort.
Epicgenius (
talk) 15:04, 19 July 2023 (UTC)reply
I think describing cannons as "x-pounder" is standard and doesn't need quotation marks (the
cannon article doesn't, and it's FA, although not a hill I'll die on)
In "Entertainment venue" I revised the sentence about the opera premieres a bit
I also separated the two sentences about Allen's lease into their own small paragraph, as that's a new thought relative to the rest of the paragraph's content which discusses performances at the venue
Why have [[History of immigration to the United States|first American immigration station]] in the lead, but nowhere in the body?
I have linked this in the body.
Epicgenius (
talk) 15:04, 19 July 2023 (UTC)reply
"unauthorized immigration agents"? Or unauthorized immigrants...? If the first, uhh...what?
Oops, I meant the latter. I had a bit of a brain fart there.
Epicgenius (
talk) 15:04, 19 July 2023 (UTC)reply
I moved the outbuildings sentence to the end of the para as that seemed more logical
Kesselgarten struck me as more of a dicdef, so I made a wiktionary entry and turned ours into a soft redirect. I adjusted the phrasing/linking a bit
"booking agents" is this a technical term? booking for what?
Booking for transport tickets. Railroads and ferries had booking agents, who would sell tickets for these modes of transport.
Epicgenius (
talk) 15:04, 19 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Ohh okay so they're like running over saying "we can book you a ticket out of here", gotcha ♠
PMC♠
(talk) 06:51, 20 July 2023 (UTC)reply
"on the manifest of the largest ship" - do we know the name of that ship?
I don't know, but I can take a look later.
Epicgenius (
talk) 15:04, 19 July 2023 (UTC)reply
It's not dreadfully important ♠
PMC♠
(talk) 06:51, 20 July 2023 (UTC)reply
"To encourage immigrants to use other ports of entry" - do we know why they wanted this?
This was to reduce overcrowding, as many immigrants heading to Castle Garden were destined for other parts of the US anyway. However, this was not particularly successful as many immigrants only knew about Castle Garden. It was the Ellis Island of its time (and ironically, Ellis Island was built to replace Castle Garden).
Epicgenius (
talk) 15:04, 19 July 2023 (UTC)reply
"Head tax" and "poll tax" are used interchangeably, but it isn't clear from context that those are synonyms. Can we either clarify or pick just one?
IDK where "poll tax" came from. I changed this to "head tax".
Epicgenius (
talk) 15:04, 19 July 2023 (UTC)reply
First two sentences of "Closure" both use "numerous"
"reportedly did not enforce federal laws" Was this like, they should've been enforcing but refused to for malicious reasons, or didn't enforce them because it wasn't their job in the first place?
It was the latter, as the state officials were only interested in enforcing state laws.
Epicgenius (
talk) 15:04, 19 July 2023 (UTC)reply
"gross stupidity" 😂
I realized that in the entertainment venue section, you have 2022 conversions, but not elsewhere. Any particular reason for this?
Aside from this no gripes through the Aquarium section
You've got your first link to the Board of Estimate way down under "Initial plans", but it's mentioned earlier. Deliberate?
I made a few minor wording revisions, but otherwise no issues through the rest of "Demolition"
"two subterranean water tanks" do we know what these are for? Is it important?
Did the tensile roof ever get installed? I don't see a mention of it in the main description of the monument as it is now
Okay, that's it. Fairly top-heavy for comments, very minimal stuff after the aquarium. As always, your writing is clear and descriptive. No concerns about MOS, CV/paraphrasing, NPOV, or other content issues. Spot checks of accessible sources (including Newspapers.com clips, books, and other news reports) checked out with no factual issues. Images are free and suitably tagged and captioned. No concerns. I'm going to pass this; treat anything else as a suggestion, as there's nothing that would casuse a GACR fail. ♠
PMC♠
(talk) 06:51, 20 July 2023 (UTC)reply
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