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Cite: "The Kinsey scale says that having a higher level attraction to one gender results in less attraction to the other, which some studies do not support.[39]" How does the Kinsey scale say that? It doesn't seem to say anything about "how strong" attraction is, it just measures if its more towards female or male. Does it really say that people in the middle of the scale can't be equally uninterested in men and women? Doesn't the message stay the same? "More people than you'd think are capable of feeling attraction towards male and female bodies."

When I’m on articles about sexual attraction types I see that it says sexual attraction and also Romantic attraction. I think that romantic attraction differs from sexual attraction, and that we can have different articles articles about romantic attractions, including Biromantic, Heteromantic, etc. Should we make a articles, or at least specify that romantic attraction is different from sexual attraction?

-Objectsshowsarethebest Objectsshowsarethebest ( talk) 02:00, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Objectsshowsarethebest: See the Notability guidelines. I'm doubtful that there are sufficient reliable sources on which to base separate articles about the -romantic terms (besides Aromantic, which does have its own article), nor that there's really much notable to say about each one except defining it and explaining the sexual-romantic split, both of which are already done in the existing articles Romantic orientation and Split attraction model. If you're interested in this topic, you could try improving those articles, but mind the WP:Neutral point of view and be ready to recognize and acknowledge when your viewpoint is not-yet widely accepted.

It's true that biromantic and bisexual are distinguishable concepts, but it's extremely prevalent, even in reliable sources, to use sexuality labels to refer to the corresponding romantic attraction (as in the term "straight couples", "gay panic", "lesbian romance" etc.). So it seems acceptable to define each term as as a romantic or sexual attraction or behavior; that "or" is more of an "and/or".

IMO: defining the label bisexual strictly in terms of sexual attraction is wrong, and likely to offend people who hold that identity (hello!), particularly given the existing prejudice of bisexuals as promiscuous/hypersexual/sex-obsessed, as well as the active right-wing reactionary movements which consider all queer identities to be sexual perversions.

Hope this helps. – RoxySaunders 🏳️‍⚧️ ( 💬 •  📝) 16:29, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Yeah, me personally as a bisexual person think they are distinguishable due to there suffixes and differences. For example bisexual or biromantic uses the suffixes, but if you disagree on this issue that’s totally ok! I personally identify with both, Bisexual and Biromantic in case you were wondering too. I got my information at the LGBTQ+ wiki, I’m not sure where they got their sources at but I tend to agree with the things on the wiki, despite having some mistakes. I do also, understand were you’re coming from when you send the notability link I do think though, that romantic LGBTQ+ identities could stay as a possibility for the future. And I understand your point with having romantic attractions and, sexual attractions on pages like these, However as a bisexual person I do distinguish these. The LGBTQ+ wiki again, to help your point may be wrong so I also do have to a little digging to see if I can prove my point a little more. By the way I will definitely be editing more articles on the topics of sexual attractions and the LGBTQ+ community. I also agree that, us bisexuals are being stereotyped by the active right-wing reactionary movement’s. Have a great day :) - Objectsshowsarethebest ( talk) 21:10, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Oh! And they are different because romantic attractions do often times (at least in my experience differ) so that’s another reason for my question along with the ones stated above :). Objectsshowsarethebest ( talk) 21:12, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply

The LGBTQIA+ Fandom wiki is not a reliable source (see WP:UGC), but their Bisexual article references the following sources, which all include romantic attraction in their definition of bisexual.

• "What is Bisexuality?". Bi.org. Retrieved 2024-02-02. Bisexuality is a broad and inclusive term that describes physical attraction, romantic attraction, or sexual behavior that is not limited to one sex.
• "What Is Bisexuality? – Bisexual Resource Center". Retrieved 2024-02-02. Bisexuality: Attraction to more than one gender. This attraction could be physical, romantic, and/or emotional. Bisexual people may experience different kinds of attraction to different genders, and their attractions may change over time.
• "Understanding Bisexuality". American Psychological Association. Retrieved 2024-02-02. The term "bisexual" is used to describe a person who experiences emotional, romantic and/or sexual attractions to, or engages in romantic or sexual relationships with, more than one sex or gender.
• WebMD Editorial (2017). "What Is Bisexual?". WebMD. Retrieved 2024-02-02. Bisexuality is an attraction to more than one gender. Those who identify as bisexual feel a sexual and/or romantic attraction to people of a different gender as well as their own.

– RoxySaunders 🏳️‍⚧️ ( 💬 •  📝) 04:09, 2 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Hmm, I see. I made this question because some of my friends have different sexual attractions and romantic attractions (they don’t match up) I do see lots of sources do put “Bisexual” and “Biromantic” as the same and I guess that it is to minor to make an edit of. I have an interest in my community so I really want to edit more articles on the topic of LGBTQ+ and see if I can make a difference about anything! Thank you :) — Objectsshowsarethebest ( talk) 02:18, 9 February 2024 (UTC) reply

If you want, there's the biromanticism article in the Portuguese-language Wikipedia that anyone can translate into English and then adapt to the Anglophone Wikipedia. You can start at Draft:Biromanticism ( biromantic and biromanticism are currently redirects).

Though, people can eventually propose merging both topics, or argue that it would be wp:CFORK.

Comment: I'm monosexual biromantic and I feel included in the bisexual polysemy, since it carries multiple definitions, at least in some I'm included. Be mindful with restrictive prescriptions.

I feel romantic attraction could have its own article if substantially developed. 2804:214:86EF:3163:4CF7:CCFF:FEE6:8660 ( talk) 03:35, 9 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Objectsshowsarethebest and IP 2804, a general comment: this page is not for general discussion about bisexuality. It is strictly for discussing how best to improve the article based on Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, notably that of reliable sources. A corollary of this is that the personal attitudes, opinions, life experiences, values, and personal sexual or romantic orientation of yourself or anybody you know are not germane here; please do not discuss them further (you may add them to your user page or Talk page, if you wish). If you have specific proposals of how to improve the article (such as translating the Portuguese one—that's a specific prooposal), then by all means, please do discuss them. However any tangential information not related to improving this article or not based on published, reliable sources is subject to removal from this page as off-topic, so let's get the discussion back on track: based strictly on what you have read in specific, named, reliable, published works, do you have a proposal on how to improve this page? Mathglot ( talk) 06:10, 9 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Almost exclusively deals with reactionary 2nd-wave feminists who ascribed to the "political lesbianism" mantra. It would be useful to get some 3rd/4th wave feminist views on bisexuality, especailly seeing as how 2nd-wave feminism was often notable for its loud and powerful contingent of women who held views that were sex-negative and transphobic, to name abut a few. Said views have fallen well out of favour with modern feminism, and only a minority of women adhere to them today (and the majority of those women are imho younger 2nd wavers) 2A00:23C4:3E44:2C01:911C:1E67:8FA3:CA5 ( talk) 23:54, 15 March 2024 (UTC) reply

After the beginning intro part, bisexuality is described as people who have both homosexual and heterosexual attraction.

“ The term bisexuality is mainly used for people that have both heterosexual and homosexual attraction.[1][2][9]”

I checked the sources and at least the first two (because I did not look at the entire third book) do not have this configuration of the definition of bisexuality. I personally am not a fan of describing bisexuality thusly (making it sound like you are half gay and half straight). PitterPatter533 ( talk) 19:14, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply